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pop fly to McGillicutty posted:Limbaugh took a call from a Chinese immigrant who said he's voted republican his whole life, and thinks Trump's tweets were racist. I'm trying to parse Limbaugh's sentence here and I can't. Is he obliquely threatening the caller with deportation for calling Trump's tweets racist?
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It's implying the dude doesn't believe that poo poo and would rather lie than get sent back to China.
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He's saying the tweet isn't actually racist, people just say it is because it implicitly threatens all non-US-born citizens with deportation, which is entirely different because e: also it implies you can tell who was born here by their skin color but hey let's ignore that Zanzibar Ham fucked around with this message at 20:15 on Jul 17, 2019 |
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Angry_Ed posted:I'm trying to parse Limbaugh's sentence here and I can't. Is he obliquely threatening the caller with deportation for calling Trump's tweets racist? I think he's implying that people who immigrated from lovely countries are being oversensitive about the whole "go back where you came from!" thing, even though it's totally harmless.
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Yeah he's saying, "this guy is scared of people saying go back because he doesn't want to go back." Failing to see that the implications of "be like us or else" as clearly racist.
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EmbryoSteve posted:post the ben shapiro moob pic Not Shapiro but here is Trump 
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pop fly to McGillicutty posted:I think the GOP are really having a hard time deciding where they want to land here. Not really. They're doing what they always do. Hemming and hawing, what abouting, genuflecting, rationalizing, whining, deflecting and claiming out of context. Throwing enough constant poo poo at any wall where it might stick and trotting out their endless roster of shameless apologists and shills to cloud the issue until the news cycle dies down. These people are 100% dug in and I honestly don't think there is a bottom. The only thing they can't claim this time is their go to "fake news" since we all read what he said but I wouldn't be surprised if someone has tried it. https://twitter.com/ndrew_lawrence/status/1151246203650215938?s=21 Because of course BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 22:56 on Jul 17, 2019 |
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pop fly to McGillicutty posted:Limbaugh took a call from a Chinese immigrant who said he's voted republican his whole life, and thinks Trump's tweets were racist. I dunno, the GOP seems like they have a lot of practice minimizing Trump's racist statements. The only difference is whether or not a significant percentage of the country are buying their spin. The media and Democrats, on the other hand, are having a harder time. Media sees "racism" as an inherently partisan judgement, and so basically never calls anything racist. Democratic leaders are trying, poorly, to split the difference by calling out racism without looking like they're calling out racism for fear they offend rich white Republicans in the suburbs. Everyone powerful involved in media and politics is very happy to not talk about racism, and so this will probably go back to normal. Everyone knows Trump is racist, but it's the kind of harmless misguided racism privileged people see as unavoidable so let's not interrogate it too hard.
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Strange Poon posted:Ben Shapiro honestly looks like his body has contorted and compressed itself, he has this weird gamer posture that makes him look like he's skulking like Nosferatu. His face also looks like it wants to sneer, even when he's just being "normal". I hate to say someone's personality and beliefs have a drastic direct effect on the way they look, but when I see people like Shapiro it's hard to argue against it.
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ZobarStyl posted:The shape of people's faces as they age is extremely related how they operate internally, it's a matter of facial muscles. If the only muscles you ever work are the ones for angry sneering, your face hardens in that manner. Muscle memory relaxes into the resting face of what is most commonly used, so people who smile constantly can smile without looking inhuman, unlike joyless chuds who just look temporarily confused as what they're supposed to do with their internal rage. Trump is the apotheosis of this, as his face vacillates between the binary states of his practiced, forced grin or his angry drooping scowl. What if all I do is cry 10 hours a day?
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I can see why any pundit landing an interview with that bagel rear end in a top hat would be good for ratings, just for the point-and-laugh factor, but what's Hannity going to do with him? I admit I don't watch Hannity much but I've never known him to get anybody on his show that wasn't a liberal punching bag or some like-minded fascist propagandist to help further their cause. Was the guy who kicked his rear end in the bagel shop a Democrat or something? I'm tempted to tune in, but I'm not gonna give that gently caress Hannity any extra set of eyes.
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BiggerBoat posted:What if all I do is cry 10 hours a day? 
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Jul 18, 2019 03:45
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Is Bagel Boss Guy the short guy who yelled at women behind the counter? Jesus christ.
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Jul 18, 2019 04:26
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twistedmentat posted:Is Bagel Boss Guy the short guy who yelled at women behind the counter? Jesus christ. Yes. He is the Tiny Bagel Misogynist Guy who got knocked the gently caress out for being a raging lady-hating incel rear end in a top hat.
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twistedmentat posted:Is Bagel Boss Guy the short guy who yelled at women behind the counter? Jesus christ. You’re not God, or my boss, or my dad!
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twistedmentat posted:Is Bagel Boss Guy the short guy who yelled at women behind the counter? Jesus christ. the bagel cuck
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Jul 18, 2019 04:36
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I'm petty, but it will always be funny to me how much she hates her cousin.
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twistedmentat posted:Is Bagel Boss Guy the short guy who yelled at women behind the counter? Jesus christ. Yeah. If you hate yourself, you can watch this. His local station got an interview with him. It's exactly what you'd expect, and at one point he likens himself to Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zElqSnlHxbA
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tek79 posted:Yeah. If you hate yourself, you can watch this. His local station got an interview with him. It's exactly what you'd expect, and at one point he likens himself to Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zElqSnlHxbA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9DuxhGp2Dg Complete with casual racism and him trying to profit off his newfound fame.
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Lycus posted:I'm petty, but it will always be funny to me how much she hates her cousin.
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Vichan posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9DuxhGp2Dg Guy's so short he should be called Bagel Bite.
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Angry_Ed posted:Guy's so short he should be called Bagel Bite. 
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Angry_Ed posted:Guy's so short he should be called Bagel Bite. I'm co-opting this.
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So the newest right wing conspiracy theory is that Ilhan Omar married her brother for immigration purposes and to cheat on her taxes.
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Twelve by Pies posted:So the newest right wing conspiracy theory is that Ilhan Omar married her brother for immigration purposes and to cheat on her taxes. That isn’t new, and the immediate question is: the statute they claim she took advantage of offers the same benefits to spouses or siblings, so what’s the reason for fraud?
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selec posted:That isn’t new, and the immediate question is: the statute they claim she took advantage of offers the same benefits to spouses or siblings, so what’s the reason for fraud? Because she's a SCARY SCARY MUSLIM and it's more racist birther poo poo all over again. Stop engaging them with reality like the actual law, fascists don't care. She's not white, therefore not American. That's it.
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bird food bathtub posted:Because she's a SCARY SCARY MUSLIM and it's more racist birther poo poo all over again. Stop engaging them with reality like the actual law, fascists don't care. Oh yeah, I meant it as “the question you should ask them” when they float this dumb claim. It’s obvious it’s just a way to try and leverage her SCARY FOREIGN MUSLIM status.
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Twelve by Pies posted:So the newest right wing conspiracy theory is that Ilhan Omar married her brother for immigration purposes and to cheat on her taxes. this has been the line since she first rose to prominence with making GBS threads on elliott abrams. selec posted:That isn’t new, and the immediate question is: the statute they claim she took advantage of offers the same benefits to spouses or siblings, so what’s the reason for fraud? i've done this and they just ignore you. it's really cool the president is saying it now!
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Groovelord Neato posted:this has been the line since she first rose to prominence with making GBS threads on elliott abrams. Yeah it never makes them question, but it feels good to dunk and call them inspector clouseu’s inbred cousin
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bird food bathtub posted:Because she's a SCARY SCARY MUSLIM and it's more racist birther poo poo all over again. Stop engaging them with reality like the actual law, fascists don't care. I continue to be surprised at how similar anti-Muslim and anti-Jewish rhetoric are. Sartre posted:Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.
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Jurgan posted:I continue to be surprised at how similar anti-Muslim and anti-Jewish rhetoric are. The through line is fascism.
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Twelve by Pies posted:So the newest right wing conspiracy theory is that Ilhan Omar married her brother for immigration purposes and to cheat on her taxes. Suddenly white people care about cultural appropriation.
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BiggerBoat posted:What if all I do is cry 10 hours a day? 
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Takoluka posted:Suddenly white people care about cultural appropriation. 
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Tarkus posted:People make the assumption that Ben is an honest actor. I think Ben is actually a really smart guy but I think he is politically agnostic internally. He knows who will butter his bread at the end of the day if he shows those LIEberals who's boss with his quick talk and carnie antics. I say this because he is inconsistent from sentence to sentence and I think he knows better, he just speaks so fast that most people think he knows what he's talking about. Can't stand the guy. Hard disagree. I think this is how he, like so many others, started but if you pretend to hold a position long enough you very quickly begin to believe it sincerely. This is the whole ‘there’s no such thing as ironic racism’ thing. They all tell themselves they’ll just pretend to be shitlords in order to cash a check but at the end of the day, what’s the difference? Stare into the abyss and the abyss stares back into you and all that.
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i do understand thinking that it's all an act with these people. it's very hard to fathom people honestly believing the things they believe since they're so counter to not only any legitimate morality but also objective reality.
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selec posted:Oh yeah, I meant it as “the question you should ask them” when they float this dumb claim. It’s obvious it’s just a way to try and leverage her SCARY FOREIGN MUSLIM status. "Is there any right-wing talking point you won't regurgitate?" is a good starting place. Because they don't actually believe it, as noted above. Their scam works around the assumption you'll take the defensive high road and engage their bad faith argument in good faith. Redirecting the conversation to just why they do that is going to be much more challenging than they're used to and will hopefully discourage future attempts.
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