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Connoisseur posted:A neat little thing about that is that the guard doesn't keep staring at frosted glass like a dunce, he's actually scripted to give up what he's doing and he goes to the executive waiting room to read a magazine. What happens if you defrost (for lack of better words) the glass while he's away, if you know? Does he stay in the waiting room, or magically know that he can go back to his post? That's interesting though - definitely the smartest man on the map, as Zaffy said!
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Major Isoor posted:What happens if you defrost (for lack of better words) the glass while he's away, if you know? Does he stay in the waiting room, or magically know that he can go back to his post? He does not, he keeps sitting in the waiting room until he's jostled by some alarm or emergency. The whole frosted glass thing is of questionable utility considering that the guard's not watching anything that's not eventually patrolled by the group of bankers. I thought you could maybe create a body stash zone behind the desk when the guard's not there,  This is something you can do I suppose. (Spoilerish) 
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Jul 18, 2019 16:18
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Another Sapienza ET? I need new suits  This was also one where I remember the ET being especially convoluted without a guide, so explosive ducking and running might be the best way to go.
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Jul 18, 2019 17:07
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The Badboy's not so big a deal, it's just that he doesn't really expose himself to any risks unless something happens on the set. Starting the autograph session should put him in a position to be poisoned for example, as he'll go out there with Dino Bosco and field questions for him. It may also be trivially possible to kill him with the cheesephone.
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Jul 18, 2019 18:20
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Nakar posted:It may also be trivially possible to kill him with the cheesephone.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gOQzw9wObU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Rsdr-gDwoU
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Jul 18, 2019 21:17
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I find it frustrating that you can't do ET's over again. Give me one shot for all the challenges and perks and unlocks but let me explore the different interactions and stuff. Most ET's for me end up being a run in blast the guy and blast my way out which is so unsubtle.
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Jul 18, 2019 21:33
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embrace the ephemeral nature of life and art
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Super No Vacancy posted:embrace the ephemeral nature of life and art I just wanna kill people
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sounds like you're getting it
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As cool as the concept of elusive targets is, the implementation isn't great. All the stuff about only getting a single attempt is nonsense because anyone even vaguely serious about the game will play it a bunch of times without actually completing anything because a) that's the only way to hear the dialogue they've written (which is, let's be honest, the real content - not some dipshit being shadowed by a bunch of guards that you're going to kill with more or less the same strategy you always use) and b) the only lasting mark they leave on the game is a scoreboard where you're ranked by how fast you got silent assassin, so playing blind and having fun is actively discouraged. Limiting you to literally a single attempt would be truer to the concept but then you'd have to choose between seeing the content or doing well (and you'd be poo poo out of luck if the game crashed), so I think they should let you replay as long as they're active but only your first score counts. You can kind of do this already by using console guest accounts or steam family sharing, so they might as well make it official.
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There are finally enough fun featured contracts that I'm having fun trying to do them. I don't care about doing SA on 'em, but trying to meet the optional complications is fun. Like the one I just did, Turn Off the TV! Got caught trying to give one of my targets the electric phone so I stole his clothes, waited for it to reset and did it again, silently this time.
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Is it just me or are they really spacing out new ETs on the Hitman 2 maps? I think they've had 5 new ones in the last 8 months and two of them were the exact same Undying mission. I can't remember how frequent they were in the first game.
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Hobo Clown posted:Is it just me or are they really spacing out new ETs on the Hitman 2 maps? I think they've had 5 new ones in the last 8 months and two of them were the exact same Undying mission. I can't remember how frequent they were in the first game. Hitman 2 sold pretty poorly for various reasons, they are probably stretching out their budget so they can still release the promised new maps on schedule.
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The latest ET ‘tthe badboy’ is now live and... while I haven’t yet completed it, I think it seems really simple? I’m going to play it more to appreciate the level, but to complete I think I can: Spoiler for the latest ET. distract and knock out the two bodyguards beside his flash car right at the start. Drop a micro explosive on it, move a decent distance away to avoid suspicion, detonate and shoot him with a silenced pistol when he comes to check on his car.
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Hobo Clown posted:Is it just me or are they really spacing out new ETs on the Hitman 2 maps? I think they've had 5 new ones in the last 8 months and two of them were the exact same Undying mission. I can't remember how frequent they were in the first game. I assume we're getting the replays while they're busy working on the DLC.
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The Badboy is the one who is playing Kane and Lynch and loudly talking about how good it was and how people maligned it, right?
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StrixNebulosa posted:There are finally enough fun featured contracts that I'm having fun trying to do them. I don't care about doing SA on 'em, but trying to meet the optional complications is fun. Like the one I just did, Turn Off the TV! Got caught trying to give one of my targets the electric phone so I stole his clothes, waited for it to reset and did it again, silently this time. There is some contract on the landslide map that involves pushing 5 people into the ocean with the starting disguise and I spent like an hour and a half trying to figure out how it was done and never managed to get a single target without being spotted. Haha
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Dr_0ctag0n posted:There is some contract on the landslide map that involves pushing 5 people into the ocean with the starting disguise and I spent like an hour and a half trying to figure out how it was done and never managed to get a single target without being spotted. Haha if it's the one I'm thinking of it involves shooting them in the leg so they drop in the water. A sniper rifle shooting from the safehouse is recommended
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deadly_pudding posted:Hitman 2 sold pretty poorly for various reasons
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I just pulled off the Four Clovers featured contract and y'know what, that was some pretty nice routing. And I like the theming of four green men.
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Dr_0ctag0n posted:There is some contract on the landslide map that involves pushing 5 people into the ocean with the starting disguise and I spent like an hour and a half trying to figure out how it was done and never managed to get a single target without being spotted. Haha After spending like an hour realizing I had no idea how to do this one I was glad those were optional objectives because I just went to the safehouse, grabbed the highest powered sniper rifle I could and started firing until they and several others were all dead. Do you need to actually do the featured contracts 'right' to unlock the wrench, or just finish them? I'm pretty close if the latter is true.
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Pilchenstein posted:You got a source for this? One of the biggest tells is that the leaderboards have significantly less people on them than Hitman 1.
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Wolfsheim posted:After spending like an hour realizing I had no idea how to do this one I was glad those were optional objectives because I just went to the safehouse, grabbed the highest powered sniper rifle I could and started firing until they and several others were all dead. Just finish them.
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:One of the biggest tells is that the leaderboards have significantly less people on them than Hitman 1.
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Pilchenstein posted:That's not really a great metric for a ton of different reasons. I'm listening.
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We're discussing this for the nth time in this thread,  The pace of the updates / quality of the ETs / recycling of old ETs seems to indicate that they are not rolling high on tons of money. Thing is, this could be due to them being a small indie studio, or it could be because it really didn't sell well. They certainly aren't talking about their financial situation, so everything we say is based on speculation and stuff like looking at the steam sale stuff. I want Hitman 2 to be selling like gangbusters, but unless we can figure out how to market it better, that's not going to happen.
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When Steam posted their "Greatest Hits" at the end of 2018, it was pretty obvious how badly Hitman 2 had done.
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:I'm listening. HenryEx posted:When Steam posted their "Greatest Hits" at the end of 2018, it was pretty obvious how badly Hitman 2 had done. StrixNebulosa posted:The pace of the updates / quality of the ETs / recycling of old ETs seems to indicate that they are not rolling high on tons of money. Anyway, it's like you say - none of us actually know enough to draw any conclusions.
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Pilchenstein posted:It was one of the top new releases for November, which also suggests it was never going to do well in overall sales for the year. I'm not even talking about overall year sales, it didn't even win any of the sales award for the month it came out. The Steam Best Of had categories for each release month, obviously. Stuff like Farming Simulator, or Football Simulator and even Artifact of all things came out the same month as Hitman 2 and outsold it that month. IIRC Borderlands 2, a six years old game on sale a million times and in bundles, outsold Hitman 2. The only time it ever showed up, somewhere far down on a list, as "Best Newcomer" or something like that. It's bizarre how some people vehemently argue against all facts, even as the effects make themselves clear. Reminds me of anti-vaxxers.
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Hitman 1 was also a free PS+ game and most people wouldn't know to do the H2 import trick  But also a puzzle game where going loud is considered a failure state and a good run looks a lot like someone slowly walking around choking people out was never gonna have the same mass appeal as a pure FPS or action game
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People underestimate how beloved Farming Simulator is. I mean it's an Amazon top seller for months every time a new one comes out, and I saw the crowd at Gamescon one year at their booth. They had a live show that was just weird shouting and they had a hype man like they sometimes have at festivals where those popular DJs perform or something, and people WENT OUT OF THEIR loving MINDS. (And they were all wearing costumes, too) Biggest wtf of that particular year for me. I don't think there are a lot of other titles that can outsell Farming Simulator. So, in short - never measure a game's success against Farming Simulator, it just doesn't work man. Edit: edited for drunk posting fourth language grammar issues Lollerich fucked around with this message at 00:10 on Jul 20, 2019 |
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e : not rehashing this, ignore my dumb rear end
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Here's a problem: Hitman's kind of unique in its genre. There are other stealth games, but none that have disguises like this, or the ability to go full FPS third-person shooter type. There's the clone the Slater, but that's it. Hitman stands alone. What on earth do you compare it to?
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The Badboy is even easier, if you force the Q & A to happen he drinks from the left water bottle and the waiter disguise lets you do it while a security guard is talking to you. The hard part is waiting.
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HenryEx posted:I'm not even talking about overall year sales, it didn't even win any of the sales award for the month it came out. The Steam Best Of had categories for each release month, obviously. Stuff like Farming Simulator, or Football Simulator and even Artifact of all things came out the same month as Hitman 2 and outsold it that month. HenryEx posted:It's bizarre how some people vehemently argue against all facts, even as the effects make themselves clear. Reminds me of anti-vaxxers.
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Next ET will be #12 which will unlock The Undying Look. I wonder if it's gonna be Sean Bean again.
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hitman is a good game, but it is not a popular game
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I wish they'd take the loving leaderboards off elusive targets, I feel compelled to do it "properly" when all most of them deserve is a block of proximity c4 thrown at their head.
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I can't for the life of me figure out the featured contract to kill the two party house owners in Whittleton creek. I get seen everytime doing anything and a giant gunfight is a loving slog.
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