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QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Thundercracker posted:

Eh, you get some free games with it. Honestly it's just a growing up thing. When I was young and single I had endless time to build a PC and fiddle with games to maje them work. Now with a family and real job, I just want to unwind for an hr or two after putting the kid to bed. A few bucks each month for new games to try and that works out of the box is fine by me.

That pcmasterrace stuff just sounds like some young turk with a two seat racer making fun of people buying a minivan.

I am in my 30s with those things as well, but I don't mess with my computer hardly ever. I upgraded the video card last year, it took like 5 minutes. It had been about 4 years since I had last opened it

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Zane
Nov 14, 2007

Thundercracker posted:

Eh, you get some free games with it. Honestly it's just a growing up thing. When I was young and single I had endless time to build a PC and fiddle with games to maje them work. Now with a family and real job, I just want to unwind for an hr or two after putting the kid to bed. A few bucks each month for new games to try and that works out of the box is fine by me.

That pcmasterrace stuff just sounds like some young turk with a two seat racer making fun of people buying a minivan.
this is somewhat true in the broader sense of how finicky and complicated some pc games can be. but the narrower controller-centric console design space is also annoying.

Jezza of OZPOS
Mar 21, 2018

GET LOSE❌🗺️, YOUS CAN'T COMPARE😤 WITH ME 💪POWERS🇦🇺
I think there’s a broader range of things you can do with mouse/keyboard but even though I’m a pc guy I like that most major games nowadays have preset controller patterns that mimic consoles bc controllers are good.

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









poverty goat posted:

Meanwhile irl: I just put a new GPU in my 7 year old PC because theres still no compelling reason to upgrade a 7 year old 3770k for gaming, even though the new ryzen chips are sexy AF. Replaying Mexodus on ultra w/ raytracing and it's really pretty

What did you get? I'm looking for a reason to upgrade from my gtx 970 but I only want to do it if it's going to be a major improvement

Dewgy
Nov 10, 2005

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Zane posted:

this is somewhat true in the broader sense of how finicky and complicated some pc games can be. but the narrower controller-centric console design space is also annoying.

Here’s an unpopular opinion: Mouse and keyboard is snake oil for skill. Stop being lovely at video games and a controller will be fine.

NonzeroCircle
Apr 12, 2010

El Camino

sebmojo posted:

What did you get? I'm looking for a reason to upgrade from my gtx 970 but I only want to do it if it's going to be a major improvement

I've also got a 970 (and an i3570k) running at 2k and tbh right now i can't see much reason to upgrade either, running games at 2k. Ok it's not on Ultramegauber but generally i cant see the difference between that and high and the latter gets me circa 60fps for most games anyway.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


QuarkJets posted:

Console players have Stockholm syndrome or some poo poo

just LOL at paying an extra fee for multiplayer and being happy about it

No one is happy about paying for multiplayer. But you get enough discounts to more than cover the cost and that's not even including the free games you get every month. It's such an inoffensive fee that gives you plenty in return, that the laughable thing is PC gamers that have been dying on this hill for a decade. I pay like $3.00 a month and probably save an extra $100 a year in sales and end up liking a few of the dozens of free games I get, oh and I can't play multiplayer without paying that $3.00 a month that I'd pay anyways. Big whoop.

Dewgy
Nov 10, 2005

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veni veni veni posted:

No one is happy about paying for multiplayer. But you get enough discounts to more than cover the cost and that's not even including the free games you get every month. It's such an inoffensive fee that gives you plenty in return, that the laughable thing is PC gamers that have been dying on this hill for a decade. I pay like $3.00 a month and probably save an extra $100 a year in sales and end up liking a few of the dozens of free games I get, oh and I can't play multiplayer without paying that $3.00 a month that I'd pay anyways. Big whoop.

No no you foolish contard, you have brain damage for buying a different mass market product than someone else! You don’t function properly in society, unlike I, an intellectual, who bought a $1500 GPU to play map games.

internet celebrity
Jun 23, 2006

College Slice

Malcolm Turnbeug posted:

I think there’s a broader range of things you can do with mouse/keyboard

Yeah I mean if you have a controller you can't even move in exactly 8 directions.

Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!

Dewgy posted:

No no you foolish contard, you have brain damage for buying a different mass market product than someone else! You don’t function properly in society, unlike I, an intellectual, who bought a $1500 GPU to play map games.

idk my gpu cost about as much as a nintendo switch. the cpu and ram is expensive, but i use my computer as a workhorse that also happens to play yakuza 2, so i figure the cost balances out as long as it's not strictly a gaming machine

Dewgy
Nov 10, 2005

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The White Dragon posted:

idk my gpu cost about as much as a nintendo switch. the cpu and ram is expensive, but i use my computer as a workhorse that also happens to play yakuza 2, so i figure the cost balances out as long as it's not strictly a gaming machine

The things you do to computers are their own special beast and you know it.

poverty goat
Feb 15, 2004



sebmojo posted:

What did you get? I'm looking for a reason to upgrade from my gtx 970 but I only want to do it if it's going to be a major improvement

I got the Asus 2070 for $400 at newegg the other day

Molothecat
Jul 25, 2007

Wrath, hate, pain, and death!

The console's mostly for my wife who doesn't feel like having to deal with a computer and I like the few local multiplayer games we play together. I was just stoked that i paid $1 for 3 years of free "rentals", when I was already subscribed to live gold for crazy cheap by just looking for deals and bookmarking the video games deals thread here on SA.

But also, I'm a huge loving IDIOT who PAYS FOR THINGS

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


People can pay as much or as little as they want for their computers, but let's stop acting like it's that hard to wrap our heads around console players paying a small yearly fee to play online, amongst many other things the services offer. No sane adult should be harping on this poo poo for over a decade since these services became a thing it's just sad.

Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!

Dewgy posted:

The things you do to computers are their own special beast and you know it.

the goats' blood costs extra but it's worth it when you really, REALLY need this thing to compile

Jezza of OZPOS
Mar 21, 2018

GET LOSE❌🗺️, YOUS CAN'T COMPARE😤 WITH ME 💪POWERS🇦🇺

internet celebrity posted:

Yeah I mean if you have a controller you can't even move in exactly 8 directions.

Or furiously spam racial slurs without people hearing your chipmunk voice

poverty goat
Feb 15, 2004



Satan actually prefers the blood of sheep aka console gamers

Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!

poverty goat posted:

Satan actually prefers the blood of sheep aka console gamers

sounds like the sort of deflection poverty GOAT would offer

poverty goat
Feb 15, 2004



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzKUzRJUzQ0

Hell is already full of goats

tango alpha delta
Sep 9, 2011

Ask me about my wealthy lifestyle and passive income! I love bragging about my wealth to my lessers! My opinions are more valid because I have more money than you! Stealing the fruits of the labor of the working class is okay, so long as you don't do it using crypto. More money = better than!

QuarkJets posted:

Console players have Stockholm syndrome or some poo poo

just LOL at paying an extra fee for multiplayer and being happy about it

It all evens out. I have a workstation PC for content creation (Maya, ZBrush, Marvelous Designer, Photoshop, etc.) and gaming. My XBone is something I play on the living room couch.

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Dewgy posted:

No no you foolish contard, you have brain damage for buying a different mass market product than someone else! You don’t function properly in society, unlike I, an intellectual, who bought a $1500 GPU to play map games.

My GPU cost $250 and it plays almost anything on the highest settings

I don't care if someone wants to play a console, the paying for multiplayer thing has just always been amusing because we're so obviously being bilked for something that was always free until one day Microsoft decided that it shouldn't be anymore but somehow this gets portrayed as a positive thing because gamers love petty tribal conflicts, when in reality people should have always been up in arms over how lovely it is to pay for multiplayer

QuarkJets fucked around with this message at 00:13 on Jul 21, 2019

poverty goat
Feb 15, 2004



tango alpha delta posted:

It all evens out. I have a workstation PC for content creation (Maya, ZBrush, Marvelous Designer, Photoshop, etc.) and gaming. My XBone is something I play on the living room couch.

You could do this for a few hundred bucks less with steam streaming

tango alpha delta
Sep 9, 2011

Ask me about my wealthy lifestyle and passive income! I love bragging about my wealth to my lessers! My opinions are more valid because I have more money than you! Stealing the fruits of the labor of the working class is okay, so long as you don't do it using crypto. More money = better than!

poverty goat posted:

You could do this for a few hundred bucks less with steam streaming

That's true. I do have a Steam Link and a Steam controller. It''s not a big deal either way. It's kind of cool to have choices.

I'd forgotten that I owned a Steam Link. Now I'd like to see what Quake 2 RTX looks like on a 65 inch 4K TV.

tango alpha delta fucked around with this message at 00:31 on Jul 21, 2019

poverty goat
Feb 15, 2004



steam link is free software now and it runs on devices like fire tv afaik

Dewgy
Nov 10, 2005

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QuarkJets posted:

My GPU cost $250 and it plays almost anything on the highest settings

I don't care if someone wants to play a console, the paying for multiplayer thing has just always been amusing because we're so obviously being bilked for something that was always free until one day Microsoft decided that it shouldn't be anymore but somehow this gets portrayed as a positive thing because gamers love petty tribal conflicts, when in reality people should have always been up in arms over how lovely it is to pay for multiplayer

I barely ever play multi anyway, I’m paying for two free(ish) games a month and random discounts.

Ruffian Price
Sep 17, 2016

Dewgy posted:

I barely ever play multi anyway, I’m paying for two free(ish) games a month and random discounts.
same
if you don't play multiplayer the only sub not worth the money is nintendo online I still have that because I am a massive dumbass

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Everytime I hear about people PC gaming I suddenly relearn people have desktop PCs in this day and age

Wrath of the Bitch King
May 11, 2005

Research confirms that black is a color like silver is a color, and that beyond black is clarity.
I have a Steam Link that I've never used but I'm not gonna run a wire to my TV for it. Does it function at all via wireless?

Caesar Saladin
Aug 15, 2004

i'm not even sure what games pc gamers play. Like, mobas, right? MMOs? Are they still playing Team Fortress 2?

is pepsi ok
Oct 23, 2002

Whenever console players try to criticize PC gaming they either exaggerate the hell out of how much money you have to spend or they say something that reveals that they haven't actually paid any attention to PC gaming in like 20 years.

"Look, I'm a busy man, I don't have time to configure the IRQ port on my SoundBlaster and download the latest Voodoo extreme drivers every time I want to play a game!"

poverty goat
Feb 15, 2004



Wrath of the Bitch King posted:

I have a Steam Link that I've never used but I'm not gonna run a wire to my TV for it. Does it function at all via wireless?

Yes but gigabit wifi might be a requirement. I couldn't get it working well at 1080p with a N450 router but it works beautifully with the AC1900 router even though the far end of the link is still N300

poverty goat fucked around with this message at 02:10 on Jul 21, 2019

Barudak
May 7, 2007

I havent owned a desktop PC in 14 years so PC gaming being handicapped by consoles means I can occasionally play videogames on it.

Turbinosamente
May 29, 2013

Lights on, Lights off
I went back to having a desktop PC after college since I no longer needed the portability of a laptop. It's a very convenient all in one for movies, music, games, internet browsing, and Something Awful poo poo posting. Hell, I just gave up and opened a Steam account because if I gotta download new video games to play them I might as well do it on the PC I have versus buying a dedicated console for it.

olives black
Nov 24, 2017


LENIN.
STILL.
WON'T.
FUCK.
ME.

Barudak posted:

Everytime I hear about people PC gaming I suddenly relearn people have desktop PCs in this day and age

yeah, they're p good

appropriatemetaphor
Jan 26, 2006

is pepsi ok posted:

Whenever console players try to criticize PC gaming they either exaggerate the hell out of how much money you have to spend or they say something that reveals that they haven't actually paid any attention to PC gaming in like 20 years.

"Look, I'm a busy man, I don't have time to configure the IRQ port on my SoundBlaster and download the latest Voodoo extreme drivers every time I want to play a game!"

Yeah I remember years ago things would sometimes not work. Now if anything it's easier on PC than console. Like consoles still use discs??

Plus it's rough going back to 30 fps

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

appropriatemetaphor posted:

Yeah I remember years ago things would sometimes not work. Now if anything it's easier on PC than console. Like consoles still use discs??

Plus it's rough going back to 30 fps

Consoles basically caught up to all the problems of PC gaming.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Please dont bring up discs because then we have to hear about used game people and the "at least Ill always have copies" crowd.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

💥💥🤯💥💥
Gotta nuke something
But you can't discount consoles. You'd be missing out on all those fantastic console games from this generation such as

Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!

Barudak posted:

Everytime I hear about people PC gaming I suddenly relearn people have desktop PCs in this day and age

the pc in desktop pc is short for portable computer

Caesar Saladin posted:

i'm not even sure what games pc gamers play. Like, mobas, right? MMOs? Are they still playing Team Fortress 2?

pc is for porn games

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Dewgy
Nov 10, 2005

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Bloody Hedgehog posted:

But you can't discount consoles. You'd be missing out on all those fantastic console games from this generation such as

bloodborne motherfucker

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