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| Joe Biden, the Inappropriate Toucher |
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18 | 1.46% |
| Bernie Sanders, the Hand Flailer |
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665 | 54.11% |
| Elizabeth Warren, the Plan Maker |
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319 | 25.96% |
| Kamala Harris, the Cop Lord |
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26 | 2.12% |
| Cory Booker, the Super Hero Wannabe |
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5 | 0.41% |
| Julian Castro, the Twin |
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5 | 0.41% |
| Kirsten Gillibrand, the Franken Killer |
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5 | 0.41% |
| Pete Buttigieg, the Troop Sociopath |
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17 | 1.38% |
| Robert Francis O'Rourke, the Fake Latino |
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3 | 0.24% |
| Jay Inslee, the Climate Alarmist |
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8 | 0.65% |
| Marianne Williamson, the Crystal Queen |
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86 | 7.00% |
| Tulsi Gabbard, the Muslim Hater |
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23 | 1.87% |
| Andrew Yang, the $1000 Fool |
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32 | 2.60% |
| Eric Swalwell, the Insurance Wife Guy |
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2 | 0.16% |
| Amy Klobuchar, the Comb Enthusiast |
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1 | 0.08% |
| Bill de Blasio, the NYPD Most Hated |
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4 | 0.33% |
| Tim Ryan, the Dope Face |
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3 | 0.24% |
| John Hickenlooper, the Also Ran |
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7 | 0.57% |
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shrike82 posted:I'm curious what the politics for the forum will turn to if/when Bernie isn't the Dem candidate in 2020. I am voting third party and watching the house burn. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
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shrike82 posted:I'm curious what the politics for the forum will turn to if/when Bernie isn't the Dem candidate in 2020. “Bernie cannot fail. He can only be failed.”
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Jul 21, 2019 03:08
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Majorian posted:The reason why Bernie's the best candidate to help with the opioid crisis is because people suffering from addiction to opioids need Medicare For All if they're going to survive. There's really nothing in any of the other candidates' plans that are better-geared towards addressing this crisis than that. I agree about treating the addicted, but hundreds to thousands of pills per resident flood into communities and Doctors keep prescribing them. My Mom has pretty good healthcare and never thought herself a victim of the opioid crisis but last month she collapsed for the second time taking some of the relevant painkillers as prescribed. I didn’t know what she was taking was one of the drugs at the center of the problem because all I knew about was OxyContin thanks to Rush Limbaugh. Jailing a CEO is a good start, but more has to be done regulatory wise. The President controls the DEA and has some leverage here. MSDOS KAPITAL posted:No one talking about a jobs guarantee is doing so with a view to increasing power of capitalists over the rest of us. This is a good post and makes me feel better about Bernie. I still view automation as progress and cringe at its demonization, but that’s just me. It feels a neoliberal solution to a progressive problem, even though it’s really the opposite. Craptacular! fucked around with this message at 03:23 on Jul 21, 2019 |
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Jul 21, 2019 03:12
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https://twitter.com/MiseryXchord/status/1152695868648112130 this is just going to get dumber and more extremely believable over time isn't it shrike82 posted:I'm curious what the politics for the forum will turn to if/when Bernie isn't the Dem candidate in 2020. "The Democrats are loving trash and we're all seriously screwed" with a side of people being insufferable about ~vote blue no matter who~ with clap emojis while talking about how actually bringing back the ACA mandate is exactly what we need to make healthcare affordable to access. Marxalot fucked around with this message at 03:25 on Jul 21, 2019 |
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Jul 21, 2019 03:22
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Marxalot posted:https://twitter.com/MiseryXchord/status/1152695868648112130 It will, particularly as Seven Days has had it in for Bernie since at least 2016 and go out of their way to paint him in the worst possible light. Last month they ran a frontpage article about how Bernie was basically Wayne Pierre's alter-ego and only ever got elected to office with the gun lobby's support (it may surprise you to learn that that's not true!).
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Jul 21, 2019 03:25
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Marxalot posted:https://twitter.com/MiseryXchord/status/1152695868648112130 It's a three year old op ed
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Jul 21, 2019 03:32
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Judakel posted:This is just revisionism. She was a Republican during the Reagan years, not the 1960s. The Democrats had old racists hanging around into the Bush years. The Republicans has Strom, of course, but the flip of the southern racists didn’t really come around until Reagan as lots of older people in the northern cities (because, again, there were lots of lovely racists in Union territory as well) moved south due to lower rents and the standard of air conditioning making living there tolerable. And I mentioned Shelby, who changed to Republican in 1994. Warren said she was a Republican because family and so on, but the flip from Dixiecrats to GOP Racism didn’t happen just for Nixon’s re-election. It was a slow gradual change over 25 years. I guess you can complain that she wasn’t disgusted by Reagan, but Reagan didn’t really gently caress up the tax brackets to let the rich loot us all until his second term.
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Jul 21, 2019 03:33
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Marxalot posted:https://twitter.com/MiseryXchord/status/1152695868648112130 That's the original (and only) accusation of staffer abuse, from 2015, which has never been picked up by any other outlet since. They're literally just reposting the same hitpieces from the 2016 primaries. Not even writing new pieces, just tweeting the old ones again.
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Jul 21, 2019 03:42
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Anyone have a list of celebrities who support candidates? I know that Cardi B tweeted her support for Bernie, and so did Glover and Devito, but I don't really keep close watch on celebrities so I was wondering.
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Jul 21, 2019 03:50
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Luckyellow posted:Anyone have a list of celebrities who support candidates? I know that Cardi B tweeted her support for Bernie, and so did Glover and Devito, but I don't really keep close watch on celebrities so I was wondering. Isn't 538 doing an endorsement primary thing?
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HootTheOwl posted:Isn't 538 doing an endorsement primary thing? Yeah, from other politicians. I meant like pop culture celebrities.
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Jul 21, 2019 03:56
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Craptacular! posted:
Bernie is the only candidate willing to eviscerate the pharmaceutical industry in such a way to actually address the carnage they’ve caused onto the human race, so it would be more logical to support his campaign. The other candidates will bend over to appease the industry and that’s just not in Bernie’s vocabulary.
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Jul 21, 2019 04:06
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HootTheOwl posted:Isn't 538 doing an endorsement primary thing? 538 effectively only counts superdelegates.
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Jul 21, 2019 04:23
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Ruminahui posted:Wow I'm really shocked that once again the Sanders supporters were the ones arguing in good faith and the people just asking questions were proven wrong
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Jul 21, 2019 04:49
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Craptacular! posted:This is a good post and makes me feel better about Bernie. I still view automation as progress and cringe at its demonization, but that’s just me. It feels a neoliberal solution to a progressive problem, even though it’s really the opposite. (Or hell, maybe they are picturing just such a world. Even in that case, that still makes them useful allies now, to be discarded once their frankly insane-in-a-different-context ideology becomes a problem for the rest of us.)
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Jul 21, 2019 06:01
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Ytlaya posted:I don't entirely agree with this. My personal opinion is that the electoral success of candidates like Sanders is inevitable in the future, but that there are likely too many older Americans (whose brains are irreparably poisoned in terms of the way they think about politics) for it to be possible in most elections currently. So it's possible to lose now but win more in, say, 10 years. I guess one silver lining of giving up on electoralism will be that there will no longer be any need to focus so much on the Democratic party.
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Jul 21, 2019 06:45
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Marxalot posted:"The Democrats are loving trash and we're all seriously screwed" with a side of people being insufferable about ~vote blue no matter who~ with clap emojis while talking about how actually bringing back the ACA mandate is exactly what we need to make healthcare affordable to access. After 4 years of a legitimate fascist in the White House who got to pack the federal courts, set up concentration camps and terrorized minority communities we're really going to have to argue with people that even the shittiest Dem wouldn't be objectively better with accelerationist idiots?
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Jul 21, 2019 07:17
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mcmagic posted:After 4 years of a legitimate fascist in the White House who got to pack the federal courts, set up concentration camps and terrorized minority communities we're really going to have to argue with people that even the shittiest Dem wouldn't be objectively better with accelerationist idiots? Ah yes, because we’ve seen such strong denunciation of these evils from the Dem establishment and not at all any collaboration to fund these concentration camps etc...
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Jul 21, 2019 07:24
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mcmagic posted:After 4 years of a legitimate fascist in the White House who got to pack the federal courts, set up concentration camps and terrorized minority communities we're really going to have to argue with people that even the shittiest Dem wouldn't be objectively better with accelerationist idiots? You know as well as anybody that it's not a question of whether or not the shittiest Dem is better than the best Republican at this point. Rather, it's a question of whether or not lovely Dems are going to make an even worse Republican victory in 2024 inevitable.
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Jul 21, 2019 07:30
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Majorian posted:You know as well as anybody that it's not a question of whether or not the shittiest Dem is better than the best Republican at this point. Rather, it's a question of whether or not lovely Dems are going to make an even worse Republican victory in 2024 inevitable. We can both conjecture about what is going to happen in 2024 and I might have the same opinion as you but to actually vote for the objectively greater evil based on a guess about what’s going to happen 4 years later is completely rediculous.
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Jul 21, 2019 07:35
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mcmagic posted:We can both conjecture about what is going to happen in 2024 and I might have the same opinion as you but to actually vote for the objectively greater evil based on a guess about what’s going to happen 4 years later is completely rediculous. But it’s been proven right again and again 
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Jul 21, 2019 07:36
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mcmagic posted:We can both conjecture about what is going to happen in 2024 and I might have the same opinion as you but to actually vote for the objectively greater evil based on a guess about what’s going to happen 4 years later is completely rediculous. Wait a second, who's talking about voting for the objectively greater evil?
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Jul 21, 2019 07:36
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Leaving this alone as it’s not allowed in this thread.
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Jul 21, 2019 07:41
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Main Paineframe posted:Just a timely reminder that this is not the thread to talk about who you'd vote for in the general election after the primaries are over!
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Jul 21, 2019 07:47
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Elizabeth Warren will be the Bartlet presidency they people here so desperately want
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Jul 21, 2019 08:05
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Awful CompSloth posted:Elizabeth Warren will be the Bartlet presidency they people here so desperately want We had that for eight years already. 
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Jul 21, 2019 08:17
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Awful CompSloth posted:Elizabeth Warren will be the Bartlet presidency they people here so desperately want No, Harris is running to be President Santos and Biden is the one running to be President Bartlet. It is my understanding that Warren is running to be Dave.
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Jul 21, 2019 08:18
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Majorian posted:We had that for eight years already. When they how low we go kite surfing with billionaires
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Jul 21, 2019 08:25
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Gyges posted:No, Harris is running to be President Santos and Biden is the one running to be President Bartlet. It is my understanding that Warren is running to be Dave. Julian Castro was supposed to be president Santos bit he's too poo poo
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Jul 21, 2019 09:56
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But Santos was meant to be Obama, they just gave him way too much spine and made him too cool and good at sex
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Jul 21, 2019 10:05
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If Trump enters the Dem primary, and everybody else other than Biden drops out, who would yall vote for in the Dem primary?
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Jul 21, 2019 13:06
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His desperation is palpable. I'm betting he's going to try replicating the bump Kamala got from the first debate. So he's gonna try to do a big attack on Bernie
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Jul 21, 2019 13:13
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Marianne asks for money more often than even Hillary did in 2016. The Gravel teens must have given up on getting him up there .
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Jul 21, 2019 14:00
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Calibanibal posted:If Trump enters the Dem primary, and everybody else other than Biden drops out, who would yall vote for in the Dem primary? Write-in vote for John Hinckley
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Jul 21, 2019 14:03
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Calibanibal posted:If Trump enters the Dem primary, and everybody else other than Biden drops out, who would yall vote for in the Dem primary? Vote Blue no Matter Who. It may be unpopular but the Dems are a big tent party and we need conservative Democrats like Trump to reach across those voters. Like a similar situation to the one we have with Manchin.
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Jul 21, 2019 14:15
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Punk da Bundo posted:Marianne asks for money more often than even Hillary did in 2016. The Gravel teens must have given up on getting him up there . Maybe they're finally going through puberty
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Jul 21, 2019 14:16
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Calibanibal posted:If Trump enters the Dem primary, and everybody else other than Biden drops out, who would yall vote for in the Dem primary? We have to vote for Trump because hes the only one who can beat Trump, and since hes a Democrat his policies, while flawed, are certainly an improvement over Trump.
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Jul 21, 2019 14:41
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OctaMurk posted:We have to vote for Trump because hes the only one who can beat Trump, and since hes a Democrat his policies, while flawed, are certainly an improvement over Trump. Better to have Trump inside our tent pissing out than outside our tent pissing in 
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Jul 21, 2019 14:52
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MSDOS KAPITAL posted:The Democratic establishment is the first boss in the fight against the fash and if they aren't defeated and brought to heel as part of this primary and election cycle then it is paramount to carry that forward without skipping a beat. Biden and Warren are Bebop and Rocksteady from NES ninja turtles 2 but who is Krang and how many continues do we get?
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