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BrigadierSensible posted:Should Right To Censor be considered in this "worst stable" conversation? No, RTC was hella over and was a good gimmick
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Jul 20, 2019 11:12
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Max Coveri posted:Aren't you thinking of Al Snow? D'Lo did this, but Al Snow went a step above and actually dressed like that country's stereotypical image.
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Jul 20, 2019 11:15
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Randaconda posted:No, RTC was hella over and was a good gimmick RTC was a criminal waste of Stevie Richards.
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Jul 20, 2019 11:21
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I loved Right To Censor v v
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Jul 20, 2019 11:48
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SiKboy posted:RTC was a criminal waste of Stevie Richards. There was nothing else they would have given him that would have gave him as much exposure. It's not like he was gonna get a main event push Jerusalem posted:I loved Right To Censor v 
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Jul 20, 2019 12:02
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steven richards was as strong and intimidating as the big show
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Jul 20, 2019 12:07
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Cavauro posted:steven richards was as strong and intimidating as the big show Big Stevie Cool
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Jul 20, 2019 12:18
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BrigadierSensible posted:Should Right To Censor be considered in this "worst stable" conversation? In terms of entrance music, but that's it
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Jul 20, 2019 14:31
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I like the RTC theme for the sheer variety of alarms used, and buried amongst them is generic midcard heel riff.
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Jul 20, 2019 17:02
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RTC was a thing because of a Vince temper tantrum, which if he wasn’t such a piece of poo poo, it would be endearing.
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Jul 20, 2019 19:38
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right to censor is a lot of fun to go back and watch now just to see how furious attitude era crowds get when someone tries to stop women from taking their clothes off
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Jul 20, 2019 20:14
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John Dudebro posted:right to censor is a lot of fun to go back and watch now just to see how furious attitude era crowds get when someone tries to stop women from taking their clothes off They also gave Chyna the nastiest looking stuff piledriver I've ever seen.
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Jul 20, 2019 22:26
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Chris James 2 posted:In terms of entrance music, but that's it Their entrance music was BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I was at a house show when they were a thing, and I gotta be honest, all of us mercilessly booing RTC at the top of our lungs when they came out was actually a ton of fun. So I can't hate on RTC. They were getting the most heat of anyone on the roster at the time, moreso than main-event heels like HHH and Angle.
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Jul 21, 2019 04:41
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RTC was undeniably a Vince vanity project at heart, but most of the things I've heard about the PTC doesn't exactly make me sympathise with the non-Vince cause for once. Though you should keep in mind that my knowledge of the PTC comes pretty much entirely from wrestling fans.
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Jul 21, 2019 04:47
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Hedgehog Pie posted:RTC was undeniably a Vince vanity project at heart, but most of the things I've heard about the PTC doesn't exactly make me sympathise with the non-Vince cause for once. the PTC crossed a lot of lines regarding media in general, music, television and film being the bigger ones they wanted a boycott of The Muppets
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Jul 21, 2019 04:51
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Hedgehog Pie posted:RTC was undeniably a Vince vanity project at heart, but most of the things I've heard about the PTC doesn't exactly make me sympathise with the non-Vince cause for once.
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Jul 21, 2019 05:39
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Anyone with ten pages of articles about/mentioning them on Media Matters is definitely a shitbag outside of any anti-wrestling crusades. Highlights include being one of the last True Defenders of Iraq Having WMDs in recent years, arguing for free speech by pointing out how Obama looks like a "skinny ghetto crackhead" so it can't be racist to call him a skinny ghetto crackhead because it's just pointing out the objective resemblance, and just generally being a loudspeaker for pretty much every lovely race-baiting, homophobic, Islamophobic, nostalgic-for-white-nationalism Trumpian talking point of the past few years, which got him an invite to that Social Media is Censoring Conservatives 'summit' a few weeks ago.
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Jul 21, 2019 05:57
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Hedgehog Pie posted:RTC was undeniably a Vince vanity project at heart, but most of the things I've heard about the PTC doesn't exactly make me sympathise with the non-Vince cause for once. The PTC crowd were already radicalized dipshits. There was nowhere for them to go.
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Jul 21, 2019 06:18
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Well, guess I am the arsehole/outlier for not enjoying RTC. Whoops. But on that. Are/Were the PTC in any way officially aligned with Tipper Gore's "no naughty words in songs" crusade?
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Jul 21, 2019 06:30
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BrigadierSensible posted:Well, guess I am the arsehole/outlier for not enjoying RTC. Whoops. that was after the fact, the PTC was founded by Pat "Literally a Nazi" Buchanan's former presidential financial director and nephew of conservative idiot William Buckley
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Jul 21, 2019 07:03
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Lid posted:they wanted a boycott of The Muppets Huh, and I didn't believe it when I was told one day I'd hear of a crime so heinous that I'd actually want the people who did it to get the death penalty....
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Jul 21, 2019 07:07
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBSZew9A4GQ holy poo poo
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Jul 21, 2019 10:12
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Jul 21, 2019 10:14
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I never knew they had a Titantron-type video, let alone it was more homoerotic than some gay porn.
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Jul 21, 2019 10:26
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davidbix posted:The PTC is Actually Bad, and were routinely making poo poo up (most egregiously that Lionel Tate murdered Tiffany Eunick with the Stone Cold Stunner) as part of their fundraising efforts. There's a reason WWE got $3.5 million and a lengthy public apology out of L. Brent Bozell III as part of a lawsuit settlement. I truly loathe L. Brent Bozell III. He is a cancer on humanity and I won’t miss him when he shuffles loose the mortal coil.
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Jul 21, 2019 16:37
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Stevie Richards made a better cult leader than Raven, which was something I wouldn't have seen coming around 1997 or so
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Jul 21, 2019 16:41
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DeathChicken posted:Stevie Richards made a better cult leader than Raven, which was something I wouldn't have seen coming around 1997 or so I think Raven did it better but it was also two different concepts that can’t really be swapped.
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Jul 21, 2019 16:43
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smikey posted:Don't forget the militant south african apartheid government-themed Truth Commission. Here's the thing; I did forget about the Truth Commission. And they didn't participate in race wars. So they escape being the shittiest stable by a sliver on a few technicalities. Also: I hated the RTC for two reasons. 1) Their entrance "Music". I know it was supposed to be annoying but it worked a little too well. 2) The creator of the WWF Card Game Raw Deal was a giant Stevie mark so RTC was overpowered out of the box and then got support to make them more overpowered.
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Jul 21, 2019 20:50
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That was just being true to the product after Stevie nearly won the Royal Rumble!
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Jul 21, 2019 21:16
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I played No Mercy enough times that my brain believes Stevie was part of the WM2000 main event for real.
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Jul 21, 2019 21:41
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Tato posted:I played No Mercy enough times that my brain believes Stevie was part of the WM2000 main event for real. I think the Invasion we booked on No Mercy as stoned early 20 somethings was better than the actual Invasion.
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Jul 21, 2019 21:43
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DIG DIGGITY DIG DIGGITY DOG
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Jul 21, 2019 21:55
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Pope Corky the IX posted:DIG DIGGITY DIG DIGGITY DOG (Socko!)
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Jul 21, 2019 22:01
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I’d completely forgotten the PTC lunatics. That’s some American Dream Gone Ugly stuff. Back when it was a cultural oddity and not national policy. Simpler times.
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Jul 21, 2019 22:21
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Randaconda posted:I think the Invasion we booked on No Mercy as stoned early 20 somethings was better than the actual Invasion. Not having to navigate the sea of egos tends to have that effect. Booking the invasion is easy. Telling the Undertaker he's jobbing to the new guy isn't. (And if this sounds like I'm exonerating Vince, holy poo poo I am not. Dude is the perfect storm of the sea of egos)
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Jul 22, 2019 00:41
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ChrisBTY posted:Not having to navigate the sea of egos tends to have that effect. "Undertaker, you are jobbing to the new guy." What's he going to do, quit? They just established a monopoly and passed on top talent to keep salaries down. What happened to Vince, the one man in control who was the opposite of WCW where the inmates ran the asylum?
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Jul 22, 2019 02:39
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Now I’m bummed that DDP never got a decent run in WWE.
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Jul 22, 2019 02:46
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Lucky for Undertaker Vince didn't want to job him to the new guy either. Of course we were also thinking Taker was closer to the end than the beginning at that point...18 years ago. If he got pissed off enough retirement was not off the table. Hypothetically. Little did we know that no force on earth can keep Taker from grinding himself into powder. So is the hypothesis here that if Vince wanted the invasion to work he could have told the guys who stuck with him through the Monday Night Wars 'suck eggs you're eating mat against the guys who tried to put us out of business' there would have no negative effects? Lead Pipe Cinch posted:Now I’m bummed that DDP never got a decent run in WWE. Although DDP was pretty good even I'd be hesitant to strap a rocket to a 45 year old if I had a roster as stacked as WWEs. Of course I'd like to think there was a middle ground between 'world champ' and 'jobbed to Undertaker's wife'
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ChrisBTY posted:Lucky for Undertaker Vince didn't want to job him to the new guy either. Undertaker definitely could not have retired because he is very bad with money. Everyone on the roster was now a WWF wrestler. They were all under contract, so yes it would be a positive for Vince if he could realize that and teach his talent they were all in this together.
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