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Tabletops posted:i can't believe i'm thinking of buying a thing to skip content, what the poo poo. I was thoroughly "meh" on the story and characters and didn't really believe it when people told me how much better it gets, but once I finally got past that original 2.0 MSQ I was glued to the screen and didn't stop. It's night and day. Basically, you're already past the bad part of the game and boosting now would just rob you of the part where it actually gets really good.
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There is no shame at all for just cutscene skipping and skimming dialogue up until the stuff about Shiva and Ishgard start coming up. I did and feel I lost basically nothing just vaguely understanding 2.1-2.3
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Jul 22, 2019 03:22
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Schneider Heim posted:How do you farm Tomestones of Goetia? This is the first time I've actually reached endgame content (I only finished Stormblood MSQ months before Shadowbringers), and the last dungeon is pretty difficult (in the two runs I've had, the healer dies to the first boss). There are better dungeons to run... I hope? Biggest daily source is running 567dr which gives the most Goetia, then EXdr is right after it, I believe.
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Jul 22, 2019 03:22
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Tengames posted:so did you spend it? i need 400k more for the big green venga bus mount
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Jul 22, 2019 03:22
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Hit 80 with dancer. Class is probably the simplest dps in the game but still very fun.  
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Jul 22, 2019 03:23
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I decided to get back into this game after a few years, and I have a level 30 Marauder that I just finished the Warrior quest line for today. I don't know why I picked a tank class, tanking gives me a bit of anxiety. Fortunately there was some tutorial quest line I was in the middle of that taught me the basics of my rotation and made me understand tanking better. I'm trying to figure out if I should 1) Keep going on this class/job, 2) Keep this character and start a ranged DPS with an easy rotation, something I'm more comfortable with, 3) Roll a new character. I'm leaning toward maybe 2, if there's a fast way to level. Everyone keeps saying that you gotta slog through the 100 story quests to get to the good content. I'm turning in Skeletons in Her Closet right now, which looks like it's the 90th quest, so am I close to the first expansion's content? https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Seventh_Umbral_Era_Quests
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Jul 22, 2019 03:24
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Ibblebibble posted:Biggest daily source is running 567dr which gives the most Goetia, then EXdr is right after it, I believe. EXDR is more because the bosses themselves drop goatse tomes, whereas 567 bosses drop poetics.
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Chainclaw posted:I decided to get back into this game after a few years, and I have a level 30 Marauder that I just finished the Warrior quest line for today. I don't know why I picked a tank class, tanking gives me a bit of anxiety. Fortunately there was some tutorial quest line I was in the middle of that taught me the basics of my rotation and made me understand tanking better.
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Jul 22, 2019 03:28
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Chainclaw posted:I'm leaning toward maybe 2, if there's a fast way to level. Everyone keeps saying that you gotta slog through the 100 story quests to get to the good content. I'm turning in Skeletons in Her Closet right now, which looks like it's the 90th quest, so am I close to the first expansion's content? https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Seventh_Umbral_Era_Quests You are a long ways off. The 100 quests thing is how many quests there are between the end of ARR and the start of the first expansion. You'll be level 50 when you're close to the end of ARR.
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Jul 22, 2019 03:29
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Ibblebibble posted:Biggest daily source is running 567dr which gives the most Goetia, then EXdr is right after it, I believe. exdr gives 160: 80 for the roulette, and 80 for the dungeon
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Jul 22, 2019 03:36
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Schneider Heim posted:How do you farm Tomestones of Goetia? This is the first time I've actually reached endgame content (I only finished Stormblood MSQ months before Shadowbringers), and the last story dungeon is pretty difficult (in the two runs I've had, the healer dies to the first boss). There are better dungeons to run... I hope? Most roulettes give them for their daily bonus if you're on a level 80 character. Max level dungeons always drop them, as do the raids or ex trials. Grouping any of the max level content with a first timer gives you a bonus to tomestones instead of exp. Maps and A+ hunts do I believe as well.
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Jul 22, 2019 03:38
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Your Computer posted:I bounced off the game at that point a couple of times, but trust me when I say that the game gets exponentially better during those quests you now have in front of you. I'm sure it's good, I just can't fathom playing 15 more hours of stuff without my character getting any better or whatever. If I could do those quests with a character under 50 id probably be fine with it. Ugh.
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Jul 22, 2019 03:42
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Overwatch Porn posted:exdr gives 160: 80 for the roulette, and 80 for the dungeon Truth Quark posted:EXDR is more because the bosses themselves drop goatse tomes, whereas 567 bosses drop poetics. Good points, disregard me then.
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Jul 22, 2019 03:43
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Tabletops posted:I'm sure it's good, I just can't fathom playing 15 more hours of stuff without my character getting any better or whatever. If I could do those quests with a character under 50 id probably be fine with it. Ugh. Unless you're in 130 ironworks, you do still have some growing to do.
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Jul 22, 2019 03:49
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Tabletops posted:I'm sure it's good, I just can't fathom playing 15 more hours of stuff without my character getting any better or whatever. If I could do those quests with a character under 50 id probably be fine with it. Ugh. Level RDM or SAM while doing them? They start at level 50.
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Jul 22, 2019 03:49
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Tabletops posted:I'm sure it's good, I just can't fathom playing 15 more hours of stuff without my character getting any better or whatever. If I could do those quests with a character under 50 id probably be fine with it. Ugh. Technically you'd be getting incremental gear upgrades (for lvl 50 characters) during those quests but most people just buy the tomestone ironworks gear, so then it becomes desynth or vendor fodder, since ironworks is basically the best lvl 50 gear other than coil gear.
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Cleretic posted:It's also why I liked most of Shadowbringers, it felt like almost a whole expansion of one of those side-stories while the main plot's going on somewhere else, and I don't think it's a coincidence that I switched off the moment the main story barged back in, even if it came with some neat ideas I'd like as an isolated experience. It's probably a taste thing. I find it interesting that you compared Handsome Jack and Emet Selch because they are different executions on the same archetype/concept. The biggest difference between the two is how the rest of the story/game mechanics support them and their personalities. FFXIV's version IMO has the better story/gameplay support than Handsome Jack because there are concrete reasons why no one can stop Emet having a long melodramatic monologue after he shoots the Exarch. The only person capable of doing anything more than a momentary nuisance to Emet is currently kneeling on the floor heaving up marble-fied blood. Meanwhile in Handsome Jack's 'moment of triumph' he basically gets away with shock value and 'wham bam everything's bad man' suddenness. Also the existence of Borderland's 'New U' systems draws a pretty immersion-breaking line between gameplay and story in those games since, y'know, why are the people you're playing as the only ones who get to respawn? Personality wise it's a matter of taste. One's a petty rear end in a top hat with a foul mouth and the other's a smarmy bastard with an erudite sense of superiority. One has a wide range of emotion and shows all of it and the other is calm, collected and casually displays a degree of power beyond yours. Both are good personalities for antagonists but for different reasons.
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The terrible gpose camera prevented me from getting the cool upside-down leaping shot I wanted, but here's a pic of one of my level 70 DRG glamours. I'm really happy with how they've turned out so expect more later.
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cathead posted:The Balance discord is gonna be your best bet. The community can be kind of garbo at times but the class channels tend to have plenty of well-researched and tested resources, so check the pins and resource channels. drat this thread goes by fast. Thanks!
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Allarion posted:Technically you'd be getting incremental gear upgrades (for lvl 50 characters) during those quests but most people just buy the tomestone ironworks gear, so then it becomes desynth or vendor fodder, since ironworks is basically the best lvl 50 gear other than coil gear. I'm lvl 56 on my dragoon, so I actually have ilvl 139 stuff for the most part. I forgot Sam/rdm keep getting skills after 50. Maybe I'll do that. How's rdm?
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So I created a character on Goblin, which at the time was a preferred server and had the Road to 70 buff. This last patch removed Goblin as the preferred server but kept the Road to 70, and during this period I levelled a character up to 30. This was in the past few days and I haven't received a 15 day playtime bonus yet, so is it safe to assume the 15 bonus days is for levelling up to 30 while the server is preferred and not any time after?
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 See if you can notice what is terribly wrong with this tank I just got in the level 77 dungeon.
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EponymousMrYar posted:It's probably a taste thing. I find it interesting that you compared Handsome Jack and Emet Selch because they are different executions on the same archetype/concept. The biggest difference between the two is how the rest of the story/game mechanics support them and their personalities. FFXIV's version IMO has the better story/gameplay support than Handsome Jack because there are concrete reasons why no one can stop Emet having a long melodramatic monologue after he shoots the Exarch. The only person capable of doing anything more than a momentary nuisance to Emet is currently kneeling on the floor heaving up marble-fied blood. Meanwhile in Handsome Jack's 'moment of triumph' he basically gets away with shock value and 'wham bam everything's bad man' suddenness. Also the existence of Borderland's 'New U' systems draws a pretty immersion-breaking line between gameplay and story in those games since, y'know, why are the people you're playing as the only ones who get to respawn? I actually don't like Handsome Jack, but he's the most known figure that does well-ish what I think FFXIV does badly. You're never in an equal matchup with Jack and you always know that, but you still find ways to hurt him. That's not just really satisfying and a way to equalize things, that's also a useful way to refresh the experience because the dynamic keeps changing. Meanwhile Emet's on top and unflappable the whole time, and that only changes when he dies. I could also mention John from The Secret World, who's similarly untouchable but has character traits that don't make him feel invincible, and much better reactions from other characters; just because they can't kill him, doesn't mean they won't try to shut him up. But a lot less people have played TSW, much less to the point where John turns up.
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Cleretic posted:I actually don't like Handsome Jack, but he's the most known figure that does well-ish what I think FFXIV does badly. You're never in an equal matchup with Jack and you always know that, but you still find ways to hurt him. That's not just really satisfying and a way to equalize things, that's also a useful way to refresh the experience because the dynamic keeps changing. Meanwhile Emet's on top the whole time, and that only changes when he dies. Emet literally is helping you out for most of the expansion. He isn't 'on top.' He is a genuine ally who is working to try to help you and only betrays you when it becomes clear you couldn't actually succeed at what he considered a victory so he went back to his plan B, but was genuinely regretful that he had to. You're not *trying* to hurt him because until the very end he's legitimately working with you. The entire point is that he *isn't* just a cackling villain who wants to hurt you. In comparison Handsome Jack is entirely antagonistic and out to gently caress with you.
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ImpAtom posted:
I'm not familiar with tank gear but is that a level 50 sword?
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Kwyndig posted:I'm not familiar with tank gear but is that a level 50 sword? It's entirely 390 gear.
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Great White Hope! posted:
That's not Urianger, his facial hair is golden for reasons that confuse and annoy me. Good glam though.
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So, level 70 Dragoon. It looks like I need to time all my 20-second buffs to the Life of the Dragon period, is that right? What's the best way to time everything?
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What's the cheapest/best food I should be getting if I wanna keep my +exp gain going?
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boiled eggs are like 5 gil apiece at any starting city if all you need is the +exp.
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 I like my character, there are many like it but this one is mine. Anyway, what's the deets on gunbreaker? There are so many things on my bars and I have no idea which ones are useful or how to play at all.
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Tabletops posted:as someone who loves the rpg character systems in JRPGs (and their goofy stories) this news is pretty grim tbh JRPGs take upwards of 100 hours to complete and ARR through ShB fresh takes roughly 60-80 hours so I don't see the problem here.
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Camouflage/bow shock for big trash pulls, use No Mercy alongside Bow Shock/Sonic Break with your Gnashing Fang/Continuation combo (once you get continuation) to poo poo out damage once per minute, Danger Zone will be in this buff half the time and out of of the other half, just keep it on cooldown. Don't forget Arm's Length for big trash pulls, it'll save your rear end. You have a two-step AOE combo that gives you a cartridge that you can use later on to 'finish' the combo with Fated Circle. Superbolide immediately when you pull bosses to scare the poo poo out of your pubbie healers. Reprisal/Heart of Stone are more situational, you can use Reprisal if you see a big AoE coming from a boss or something to help the healers, Heart of Stone is useful on yourself if you remember it but it's probably best to make a macro to help target the other tank or the healer with it. Your combo steps last a long time, so you can get up to two cartridges, get 2/3rds of the way through your basic combo, then pop No Mercy, and have plenty of time to run through your entire Gnashing Fang combo, then still finish the basic combo to refill your cartridge you just spent, spend all your cartridges on Burst Strike, then Blood Fest for two more Burst Strikes. S.J. fucked around with this message at 05:03 on Jul 22, 2019 |
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ImpAtom posted:It's entirely 390 gear. I think this came from PBC, friend copy/pasted it this morning: quote:[14:55][FC]<Surtr Shellir> i had an 80 tank in exdr with 70 gear
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Brainamp posted:Hit 80 with dancer. Class is probably the simplest dps in the game but still very fun. Your Roe is very powerful.
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S.J. posted:What's the cheapest/best food I should be getting if I wanna keep my +exp gain going? Cheapest for exp? Whatever's double digits or less on the market board. Best? Whatever's cheap and has your class' stats at or near your level. I usually make something that only takes two or three inventory slots. I did Ishgardian Muffins all the way through Stormblood because they were the lowest effort item to gather items for and HQ past 50; bought the flour from a vendor and had my retainer farm the milk.
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I mean i didnt mind the quests from arr to HW, i didnt find them super poo poo or anything like that. i just kept playing and doing quests and having a good time and hey, i hit HW.
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ImpAtom posted:Emet literally is helping you out for most of the expansion. He isn't 'on top.' He is a genuine ally who is working to try to help you and only betrays you when it becomes clear you couldn't actually succeed at what he considered a victory so he went back to his plan B, but was genuinely regretful that he had to. You're not *trying* to hurt him because until the very end he's legitimately working with you. Okay this might be the snag. I literally never, for a single second, bought him as anything other than a villain. Including when he brought Y'shtola back. He had more villain flags on him than most of the villain cast of Dissidia, and the only person claiming he wasn't one was Emet himself, whose perspective I obviously can't trust about this.
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S.J. posted:Camouflage/bow shock for big trash pulls, use No Mercy alongside Bow Shock/Sonic Break with your Gnashing Fang/Continuation combo (once you get continuation) to poo poo out damage once per minute, Danger Zone will be in this buff half the time and out of of the other half, just keep it on cooldown. Don't forget Arm's Length for big trash pulls, it'll save your rear end. You have a two-step AOE combo that gives you a cartridge that you can use later on to 'finish' the combo with Fated Circle. Superbolide immediately when you pull bosses to scare the poo poo out of your pubbie healers. Reprisal/Heart of Stone are more situational, you can use Reprisal if you see a big AoE coming from a boss or something to help the healers, Heart of Stone is useful on yourself if you remember it but it's probably best to make a macro to help target the other tank or the healer with it. Whew that sounds complicated as hell. For the most part though as a fresh 60 gunbreaker what do I want to be hitting to play while I try to figure it out and get skills like Continuation.
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