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MikeJF posted:Eh, it'd change the Borg to just entirely different. They're a force of nature that doesn't need to do that because they don't care. They're not playing politics or stealth takeovers. That's just not a level they need to bother to operate on. Your only hope is, if you have something they want, to be slightly too irritating to be worth it. I can at least see it as a plausible direction the Borg might take, in the sense that they are nearly infinitely adaptable.
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The ship has regrettably long since sailed on the unknowable mystique of the Borg. In fact it has basically warped the motherfuck out.
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Drone posted:Or in Enterprise when suddenly they start screening weekly pulp movies in the mess hall like it's an episode of M*A*S*H or something.
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Ugh they got the Israeli lady from Nightflyers in Picard and it's going to be so distracting whenever she's on-screen. That show had so much potential and nosedived so hard it's left lingering trauma associated with all the people who were in it. It doesn't help she's got basically the exact same haircut and outfit in both shows.
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OldSenileGuy posted:I’ve never really been much of a Star Trek fan, but for some reason I’m excited about the Picard show. But I’ve only ever seen a handful of TNG and TOS episodes (enough to know the main players and how they relate to each other), I’ve seen the first two TNG movies, and I don’t know anything about Voyager or DS9. S2e13 Time Squared has twice as many Picards as most episodes S3e13 deja Q S3e17 sins of the Father has some good picarding on the Klingon homeworld Q'onoS S3e23 sarek events in this episode change Picard forever S4e5 remember me S4e7 reunion has some context for redemption, an episode on your list S4e12 the wounded S4e14 clues is one of my favorite episodes S5e7 and e8 unification feature Picard on Romulus, seems like it will be relevant
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Just watched Darmok again and it's a fantastic episode. 3 things: 1) it was the longest episode of TNG, maybe all of Star Trek, to produce (2 years) 2) of COURSE Rick Berman hated the premise and tried to kill it 3) nitpick, but I don't think the Tamarians should have been close to destroying the flagship of the Federation. It's should have been the other way round. Their ship looked poo poo in comparison Edit: Shaka, when the walls fell Alan_Shore fucked around with this message at 16:35 on Jul 22, 2019 |
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Had a chance to watch the teaser, and it's exactly what I was expecting. Non-stop references and cameos, with by the book action sequences.The writers are hoping with enough nostalgia, viewers will just overlook what by all accounts is going to be a very boring and poorly thought out show that will be canceled as quickly as it came into existence.
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I want to know more about romulan legolas.
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Mooseontheloose posted:I would ditch Decent and add Redemption II and Unification I and II, the Phoenix, and the First Duty. corn in the bible posted:There are a fair number of borg episodes in voyager, but the show as a whole is pretty bad and quite dull for the most part. If you watch a lot of TNG and want More Star Trek, well, that's basically the entire reason Voyager exists, but barring that it's not really worth your time Angry Salami posted:Seven of Nine/Borg focused Voyager list: Mooseontheloose posted:You may want to add the Defector and the Neutral Zone to the list to get some Romulus flavor that involved Picard. Blackula Vs. Tarantula posted:more picard episodes Thanks for all the input! I probably won't remove any episodes from the list since I've got plenty of time, but this is a great roadmap to get me going. Regarding the Voyager list, will I really not be lost if I just watch the Pilot and then skip ahead to season 03 episode 17?
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"I hate this! It is revolting!"
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Shart Carbuncle posted:I want to know more about romulan legolas. But enough about Netflix's Witcher, this is a thread about Star Trek: Picard Day.
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Drone posted:"I hate this! It is revolting!" Brent Spiner IS Charlie Kirk!
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Shart Carbuncle posted:I want to know more about romulan legolas. He's for "the ladies". Actual ladies will become sexually obsessed instead with some weird gremlin (see: how hot tumblr is for Quark)
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OldSenileGuy posted:Thanks for all the input! I probably won't remove any episodes from the list since I've got plenty of time, but this is a great roadmap to get me going. rick berman wanted to avoid having any continuity ever because it might affect syndication. so here's the deal: the world's most boring spaceship crew is trapped in a faraway part of space. also with them is a hologram doctor and neelix the pedophile clown. now you're caught up. e: i'm obviously being flippant but seriously nothing important ever happens corn in the bible fucked around with this message at 18:31 on Jul 22, 2019 |
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Pick posted:He's for "the ladies". Actual ladies will become sexually obsessed instead with some weird gremlin (see: how hot tumblr is for Quark) I dunno, I'm not a lady but Santiago Cabrera is playing a character in this series so I know who I'm gonna be crushing on.
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MikeJF posted:I really want Riker to be in command of a Galaxy Class ship in Picard and then saves the day by charging in and rescuing them at some point and we have nostalgia-cam where they step onto the bridge and soft music plays as we pan around an upgraded bridge set and everything I want this but it should be an old piece of poo poo one since it's been a long time since those came out.
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Nullsmack posted:I want this but it should be an old piece of poo poo one since it's been a long time since those came out. Only if we get a Trek ripoff of that scene in Master & Commander where Maturin calls the Surprise an old ship, and Aubrey says "nah man, she's in her prime."
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The news kept warning about the dangers of Big Data, but I never thought they meant it like this.
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So, the episode Sub Rosa is "The entirety of Beverly's family has been haunted by a sex-ghost". How very torchwood.
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BioEnchanted posted:So, the episode Sub Rosa is "The entirety of Beverly's family has been haunted by a sex-ghost". How very torchwood. yeah it owns
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BioEnchanted posted:So, the episode Sub Rosa is "The entirety of Beverly's family has been haunted by a sex-ghost". How very torchwood. You forgot the part where Data and Geordi fix up an old weather control system! 
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:You forgot the part where Data and Geordi fix up an old weather control system! And Groundskeeper Willie.
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BioEnchanted posted:So, the episode Sub Rosa is "The entirety of Beverly's family has been haunted by a sex-ghost". How very torchwood. Yep, it kinda sounds like a Chuck Tingle plot.
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If we're listing minor things that really bug us from the trailer, for me its the shots of earth where it just looks like modern day California. In TNG they have no idea what "automobiles" and "Televisons" are, yet every little glimpse of cities we see they look just like today but with some future stuff on top. After the stuntwork on the stairs it shows the skyline of what look like bog standard american suburban sprawl. And again a really modern looking corner retail unit full of TV's and a curb and street straight out of the 20th century. From all the buildings and outdoor shots it looks like this could be a generic scifi action movie set in the year 2030 or something, not trek's far-future utopian earth. "We took some generic california suburbs and convention centres and slapped some UFP flags on em... yeah good enough"
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None of us know because we haven't watched it yet, but that could be somebody's hobby and it's like an antique curiosities shop It's not like it's a retail store in any meaningful sense Or it's just moronic bullshit. Time will tell
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The fact that there's going to be a fuckin' HUGH callback in the new show gives me tiny hopes that someone involved has actually watched TNG. The whole problem is that all post-VOY (or even post DS9 really) Trek has seemingly been made for and by people who don't really like or care about Star Trek. Like you stick 7 of 9 in there because she was a massive popular ratings ploy that worked (and she ended up being of the better characters and actors), you throw a reference to captain picard day for those "hardcore trekkies" that remember such an obscure thing, you roll out TNG guest stars so we can all clap and smile. But calling back Hugh? And actually getting the same actor? No one but actual trek nerds would remember or give a poo poo about that. That's the sort of detail someone who maybe has a tiny shred of respect for the franchise and its audience might do... Baronjutter fucked around with this message at 23:45 on Jul 22, 2019 |
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Drone posted:Just wait until you get to Voyager trotting it out again as Tom Paris becomes oddly obsessed with twentieth-century America in a vain effort to make his character more interesting I guess. Hahaha no silly HE'S funny face
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The Bloop posted:None of us know because we haven't watched it yet, but that could be somebody's hobby and it's like an antique curiosities shop The whole premise of Star Trek is bullshit that doesn't make sense, who cares
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The Bloop posted:None of us know because we haven't watched it yet, but that could be somebody's hobby and it's like an antique curiosities shop Explains why they're playing the Picard interview.
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skasion posted:The ship has regrettably long since sailed on the unknowable mystique of the Borg. In fact it has basically warped the motherfuck out. Yeah I always liked the idea of the borg as galactic farmers - they send single cubes at empires and send any data gathered or technology assimilated back to the collective before the cube is destroyed. It explains why the borg have thousands of cubes but only sent a single cube at Earth during both "attacks". The idea was never to assimilate Earth - it was to harvest the newest Federation technology, and then allow the Federation a decade or two to invent stronger tech before harvesting again. Of course Voyager hosed all of that up.
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As of BoBW you can even think of Borg as viruses. A cube harvests a planet for resources (biological, natural, and technological), makes a bunch of cubes, and then they go off looking for new planets. I, Borg solidifies the idea that the Borg are a unified civilization iirc.
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A GIANT PARSNIP posted:Yeah I always liked the idea of the borg as galactic farmers - they send single cubes at empires and send any data gathered or technology assimilated back to the collective before the cube is destroyed. It explains why the borg have thousands of cubes but only sent a single cube at Earth during both "attacks". The idea was never to assimilate Earth - it was to harvest the newest Federation technology, and then allow the Federation a decade or two to invent stronger tech before harvesting again. That's not an idea I've heard before, but I like it. I suppose it's not too different to their first depiction in Q Who where they were only interested in technology, not people. It also kind of ties into the ambiguity in that episode as to whether or not the Borg were just a single cube rather than an entire civilisation.
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So my thinking is that the girl is a borg who has been de-borgified, and like Hugh before her, seeing 'Locutus' gave her a sense of home. Or something. Maybe she has borg implants that don't look like implants at all! She's the ultimate evolution of
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I dunno, I'm with the thought that she's a Borg, but instead of having all the Borg hardware forcibly implanted into her body and supplanting some of her natural functions, she got Borg nanoprobes that function about the same as mitochondria do in our bodies. A symbiosis between humanoid flesh and Borg technology. I think I asked in either this or another Star Trek-related thread if there was another race that had cybernetics integrated into their biology like that.
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Probably the closest is the Bynars, although they still had visible implants
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bull3964 posted:Speculation spoiled because of a casting announcement that hasn't made as many headlines.  This would own.They had me at "Untitled Picard Show" but having a substantive plot that advanced the universe and had modern allegory would be the cellular peptide icing on the cake.
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Hey What if The girl has something to do with Control 
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