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BiggerBoat posted:god this gonna suck Stairmaster posted:i hope james cameron still has the balls to show a bunch of police officers getting loving killed en masse
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Neo Rasa posted:The trailer plays like it's just a comedy movie starring Martin Short with no relation to The Terminator and then like halfway through out of nowhere we get a goatse.cx ish zoom into is rear end where a tiny Edward Furlong is in hiding as the Terminator theme starts playing. Osmosis Jones shared universe.
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Jul 19, 2019 19:35
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hosed up that a killbot from the future understands the value of the laborer better than humanity Stairmaster posted:i hope james cameron still has the balls to show a bunch of police officers getting loving killed en masse 
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Jul 19, 2019 20:45
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Those police officers were literally Nazis.
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Jul 19, 2019 20:46
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Oh but those were all Hydra, just boring Nazis, not regular American fash.
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Jul 19, 2019 20:47
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Cameron didn’t have the balls to kill cops in T2 Except like two cops the t-1000 killed
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Jul 19, 2019 20:48
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A period piece Terminater would probably still have to end with the good guys winning, which then means that a motherfucking badass killing machine from the future was chumped by, I dunno, a Renaissance painter and their unlikely ally, a funny leper. Which I guess helps to establish why Skynet lost the war. It got in one lucky shot with the nukes and then spent the next 20 years loving up every possible strategic decision.
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Jul 19, 2019 20:59
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the terminator had to follow john's orders.
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Jul 19, 2019 20:59
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Tenzarin posted:Those police officers were literally Nazis. Here's the thing about a lot of actual cops in 2019...
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Jul 19, 2019 21:14
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Osmosis Jones shared universe. I'm putting together an organelle
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Jul 19, 2019 21:24
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Wild T posted:You enjoyed The Crow: Wicked Prayer? And Brainscan? LOL
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Jul 19, 2019 23:59
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Brainscan was dope as gently caress actually.
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Jul 20, 2019 02:13
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All the buzz about Edward Furlong being back as John Connor is incredibly sad when you remember that, based on the leaks, he dies like five minutes in.
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Jul 20, 2019 10:48
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Stairmaster posted:i hope james cameron still has the balls to show a bunch of police officers getting loving killed en masse According to leaks... Half credit. They're Mexican cops.
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Jul 20, 2019 14:12
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Milkfred E. Moore posted:All the buzz about Edward Furlong being back as John Connor is incredibly sad when you remember that, based on the leaks, he dies like five minutes in. You never know, maybe they will have John Conner be the terminator this time.
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Jul 20, 2019 16:26
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I saw the extended scenes hype trailer with James Cameron promoting the movie and Linda Hamilton saying "Motherfucker"  and nothing has improved my feelings about the movie, if anything the whole production feels more cringey now that they seem to be sincere about this trash. So it's Rated R now, big deal. Rated R is cool when it's utilized well and for dramatic effect. This seems like a R that's for 13 year old boys to sneak into and giggle at the goofy cursing and violence.I hate that Sarah Connors has become the typical Hollywood ultra stoic and cocky action hero that's unphased by explosions and the gravity of the situation around her. If anything, being in her 60s now, it'd have been way more interesting if she came off as a reluctant hero who's extremely human and actually still afraid of the crazy Terminator poo poo happening around her. It doesn't help that her reaction to the new Terminator who can split in two is indifference or mild annoyance as she launches a rocket at it. How are we, the potential audience, supposed to feel compelled to want to watch this thing terrorize a new victim/hero when the in-universe characters barely seem to have any emotional reaction to it. Are they even afraid of it? It's getting owned in almost every clip they show. Man, it's funny because the movie could end up being good, but it's got one of the least appealing trailers I can remember for a big blockbuster franchise.
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Jul 20, 2019 16:39
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Tenzarin posted:You never know, maybe they will have John Conner be the terminator this time. This would never work.
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Jul 20, 2019 16:40
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iamsosmrt posted:I saw the extended scenes hype trailer with James Cameron promoting the movie and Linda Hamilton saying "Motherfucker" I honestly don't think now is the time for a heroine to be scared of the (robot) men that are trying to control and kill her. Neither for the times we live in or the evolution of the character that we saw in T2.
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Jul 20, 2019 18:40
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It doesn't help that the new Halloween movie out Sarah Connored the Terminator movies.
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Jul 20, 2019 19:09
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Milkfred E. Moore posted:All the buzz about Edward Furlong being back as John Connor is incredibly sad when you remember that, based on the leaks, he dies like five minutes in. Don't the same leaks say that it picks up immediately after T2? So 42-year old Furlong will be playing a 12-year old again?
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Jul 20, 2019 20:13
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Violator posted:I honestly don't think now is the time for a heroine to be scared of the (robot) men that are trying to control and kill her. Neither for the times we live in or the evolution of the character that we saw in T2. I'd settle for mild concern. Seriously, Sarah Connors in T2 was very badass. But she also had groundings in reality, allowing her to express shock and fear while still standing up for herself. I think it's a big reason why that movie is as compelling and timeless as it is. Sci-fi aside, it feels very realistic and believable. I probably wouldn't be that critical if the movie didn't seem like it was taking itself so seriously, but it does.
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Jul 20, 2019 20:23
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Who is the actor that plays the new terminator anyway, I feel like they're tryna recreate the success they had with Robert Patrick, since he was a skinny guy that nobody knew too, but he also brought a level gravitas to his performance thst I'm not really seeing with the new guy.
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Jul 20, 2019 20:26
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-Blackadder- posted:Who is the actor that plays the new terminator anyway, I feel like they're tryna recreate the success they had with Robert Patrick, since he was a skinny guy that nobody knew too, but he also brought a level gravitas to his performance thst I'm not really seeing with the new guy. Gabriel Luna, who played Ghost Rider on Agents of SHIELD (and is getting a spin off on Hulu)
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Jul 20, 2019 20:56
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What if they did a Terminator that was even more bogged down in the time travel problems so if it killed the wrong redshirt in pursuit of it's target it would inadvertently gently caress the Skynet timeline up in different ways. It would probably be a poo poo movie but an interesting concept.
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Jul 23, 2019 20:17
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A Terminator is sent back in time but instead of outright killing John Connor gives him a debilitating illness that will eventually kill him decades from now in old age, the Terminator not really having a sense of time about it, being a machine and all
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Jul 23, 2019 20:45
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Bacon Terrorist posted:What if they did a Terminator that was even more bogged down in the time travel problems so if it killed the wrong redshirt in pursuit of it's target it would inadvertently gently caress the Skynet timeline up in different ways. It would probably be a poo poo movie but an interesting concept. This would actually be pretty interesting if done right, like the unlike the way the Terminator usually rolls it would HAVE to blend into human society pretty well, and for a much longer time frame, to set up killing John Connor in a way that doesn't mess with anything else.
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Jul 23, 2019 21:33
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Bacon Terrorist posted:What if they did a Terminator that was even more bogged down in the time travel problems so if it killed the wrong redshirt in pursuit of it's target it would inadvertently gently caress the Skynet timeline up in different ways. It would probably be a poo poo movie but an interesting concept. Supposedly, Dark Fate isn't too far from this. Most of the movie isn't about Skynet - history's been changed, Skynet will never happen. Well done. Now there's a completely different AI in the future named Legion seeking to kill the leader of the human resistance against it by sending a terminator back in time, and now the Connors et al are derailed into trying to help protect Legion's target.
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Jul 23, 2019 22:15
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Bacon Terrorist posted:What if they did a Terminator that was even more bogged down in the time travel problems so if it killed the wrong redshirt in pursuit of it's target it would inadvertently gently caress the Skynet timeline up in different ways. It would probably be a poo poo movie but an interesting concept. Turns out that security guard dropped the winning full house coffee cup was picked up by a random janitor whose life changed from the considerable winnings with which they raised the hero of Dark Fate.
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Jul 23, 2019 22:38
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Cythereal posted:Supposedly, Dark Fate isn't too far from this. Most of the movie isn't about Skynet - history's been changed, Skynet will never happen. Well done. Now there's a completely different AI in the future named Legion seeking to kill the leader of the human resistance against it by sending a terminator back in time, and now the Connors et al are derailed into trying to help protect Legion's target. lol i hope this is true.
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Groovelord Neato posted:lol i hope this is true. According to the leak, Legion is also a much more topical take on an evil AI than Skynet. Rather than a supercomputer in control of nukes for fear of the Soviets, Legion was born from an anti-terrorist surveillance state and drone network that got sentient and deemed all humans and human civilizations likely terrorists to eliminate.
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Cythereal posted:According to the leak, Legion is also a much more topical take on an evil AI than Skynet. Rather than a supercomputer in control of nukes for fear of the Soviets, Legion was born from an anti-terrorist surveillance state and drone network that got sentient and deemed all humans and human civilizations likely terrorists to eliminate.
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Cythereal posted:According to the leak, Legion is also a much more topical take on an evil AI than Skynet. Rather than a supercomputer in control of nukes for fear of the Soviets, Legion was born from an anti-terrorist surveillance state and drone network that got sentient and deemed all humans and human civilizations likely terrorists to eliminate. better than a virus or operating system. but it's still silly/dumb to get rid of the main villain and i hope this movie is as dumb as genesys.
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Cythereal posted:According to the leak, Legion is also a much more topical take on an evil AI than Skynet. Rather than a supercomputer in control of nukes for fear of the Soviets, Legion was born from an anti-terrorist surveillance state and drone network that got sentient and deemed all humans and human civilizations likely terrorists to eliminate. Lol. Absolutely biting post 9/11 commentary!
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iamsosmrt posted:I'd settle for mild concern. T2 Sarah Connor was awesome because she could switch it on or off. Just watch the scene where they rescue her from the mental institution. She goes from cold, emotionless and calculating, to rage, back to cold, to sheer pants-making GBS threads terror, to maternal concern, then back to business in about a 15 minute scene.
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Jul 24, 2019 15:22
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Tenzarin posted:Those police officers were literally Nazis. But you repeat yourself! 
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Jul 24, 2019 15:31
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Cythereal posted:Supposedly, Dark Fate isn't too far from this. Most of the movie isn't about Skynet - history's been changed, Skynet will never happen. Well done. Now there's a completely different AI in the future named Legion seeking to kill the leader of the human resistance against it by sending a terminator back in time, and now the Connors et al are derailed into trying to help protect Legion's target. Meet the new DOS, same as the old DOS.
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banned from Starbucks posted:It doesn't help that the new Halloween movie out Sarah Connored the Terminator movies. I was thinking this exact same thing just now. Completely agree
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Jul 25, 2019 01:29
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wow ive heard goons gush about this sequence for years and never watched it until now and i gotta say its lame as hell
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Jul 25, 2019 11:44
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a lot of people loved the sarah connor chronicles but i thought it was lovely (i'd put the terminator and t2 both in my top 5 films for reference). like with every post-t2 entry in the franchise it (to me) was made by people that didn't "get" terminator.
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I feel like TSCC is the sequel that is most true to ideas raised by Terminator 2. But, of course, I did a whole TV/IV thread about it. Overall, it's a pretty janky show with some truly dire episodes in the second season but all the concepts it plays with are basically developments of ideas raised in T2. One of the more bizarre things about Genisys is that it took the ideas in TSCC and did them poorly.
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