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ex post facho posted:so did switch drop farouk into no-time? it seems like he was able to escape from that fairly easily lsst episode, so im not sure what thats gonna do In the scene he teleported some watch thing onto Farouk's hand, I guess to keep him there. David's getting pretty good at owning his dad
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twistedmentat posted:So David isn't supposed to be sympatheic right? Because him going around and killing everyone willy nilly and saying it doesn't matter because he is going to fix everything makes him a selfish, spoiled rear end in a top hat. Like rather than stop being a needy, selfish jerk and try to be a better person, naw he'd just change reality so that's fine! There’s this pithy phrase about what power does to people. It goes ‘that man, he has too much power and it has made him bad’.
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"I'm a strategist," I say, as I turn into a statue frozen in time (betting that switch is going to pull him out that's the second time the shadow king only has eyes for David and is owned by a third party coming in from left field and clowing all over his amazing sunglasses double nine fucked around with this message at 08:22 on Jul 24, 2019 |
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Codependent Poster posted:David didn't kill Cary or Kerry so he's not all bad. Plot armor ftw
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Jul 24, 2019 08:40
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night slime posted:In the scene he teleported some watch thing onto Farouk's hand, I guess to keep him there. David's getting pretty good at owning his dad Ya what was the watch about? Had we seen that before? CAPT. Rainbowbeard posted:What bit would that be? The opening scene has that song on for just a minute or so.
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Jul 24, 2019 13:32
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beanieson posted:Ya what was the watch about? Had we seen that before? I thought it was some sort of time fuckery warning device because as soon as he notices it Switch appears and time fuckerys him
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Jul 24, 2019 14:41
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Chalks posted:I thought it was some sort of time fuckery warning device because as soon as he notices it Switch appears and time fuckerys him Yea i context I’m sure that’s what it is but I was curious if we saw Cary building that thing for switch at some point?
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Jul 24, 2019 15:05
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TV Zombie posted:Is there any way to watch past season episodes on the FX app? I wasn't able to watch season 2 and decided to catch the most recent episode on FX which blew my mind in term of deaths and David's actions throughout. you have to log in with your television provider but yeah it has every episode. it also has a minute of commercials every commercial break
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Jul 24, 2019 15:19
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beanieson posted:Ya what was the watch about? Had we seen that before? I'm pretty sure the watch is what Cary designed to allow David (and I guess others) to go through Switch's time portals. Without it, only she can go through. They put it on Farouk so he can be pushed through the time door. Then she drops him in the space between time that we saw from last episode.
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Jul 24, 2019 15:35
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Batmasterson posted:I'm pretty sure the watch is what Cary designed to allow David (and I guess others) to go through Switch's time portals. Without it, only she can go through. They put it on Farouk so he can be pushed through the time door. Then she drops him in the space between time that we saw from last episode. Yeah you’re right, thanks. But Switch is probably unaware that Farouk was able to travel to and from that place all on his own.
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Jul 24, 2019 15:47
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twistedmentat posted:So David isn't supposed to be sympatheic right? Because him going around and killing everyone willy nilly and saying it doesn't matter because he is going to fix everything makes him a selfish, spoiled rear end in a top hat. Like rather than stop being a needy, selfish jerk and try to be a better person, naw he'd just change reality so that's fine! Considering everyone on the sky boat is trying to kill David I'm not sure how him changing as a person is supposed to undo the need to kill them all in defense, particularly with Farouk running around. He's not really a "good" person but he's also seemingly out of options to make things "better" without hitting a reset button.
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Jul 24, 2019 19:43
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Zachack posted:Considering everyone on the sky boat is trying to kill David I'm not sure how him changing as a person is supposed to undo the need to kill them all in defense, particularly with Farouk running around. He's not really a "good" person but he's also seemingly out of options to make things "better" without hitting a reset button. Yeah they’ve already killed him multiple times and won’t help him at all
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I actually like David's "what does it matter if I kill them all now if I just fix time afterwards so it never happens?" argument. I mean, he's kind of right.
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Jul 25, 2019 00:28
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What if he can't fix it?
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Wafflecopper posted:What if he can't fix it? He’s God. He can fix anything.
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Wafflecopper posted:What if he can't fix it? I wonder if he’s going to end up getting a Nier type ending and realize The only way to save everyone is to completely erase himself from the timeline, no one will remember him or anything he ever did and then all the episodes delete themselves off your DVR <— Nier Spoilers just in case
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Jul 25, 2019 01:22
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Your Gay Uncle posted:I wonder if he’s going to end up getting a Nier type ending and realize The only way to save everyone is to completely erase himself from the timeline, no one will remember him or anything he ever did and then all the episodes delete themselves off your DVR <— Nier Spoilers just in case I don’t remember any of this?? 
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Jul 25, 2019 01:24
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Chokes McGee posted:I don’t remember any of this?? That's because your timeline has been altered.
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Jul 25, 2019 01:26
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e oh lol nm
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Jul 25, 2019 01:27
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Necrothatcher posted:I actually like David's "what does it matter if I kill them all now if I just fix time afterwards so it never happens?" argument. I mean, he's kind of right. Following his logic, none of the people David knows now are "real people." None of the people he will ever know can be "real people" because he can always pull a redo for himself, and the logical endpoint of that POV is a sort of solipsism where nothing David does ever matters or means anything, not like the bits of motherhood that Lenny had meant something to her. He's just concocted an elaborate excuse to not have to look at himself or his actions with any sort of scrutiny.
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Jul 25, 2019 01:36
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guys i think the main character killing almost all the other characters is cool and good
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rapeface posted:guys i think the main character killing almost all the other characters is cool and good Yeah Clark sucks gently caress that guy
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Jul 25, 2019 01:44
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AtraMorS posted:Like Syd tried to argue, it's an argument that only works from David's POV. The Syd that fell in love and everything else is going to be utterly unmade; her consciousness will stop, no different than dying. Switch's edutape about Time Travellers definitely repeated those sentiments.
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Jul 25, 2019 01:50
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JossiRossi posted:Switch's edutape about Time Travellers definitely repeated those sentiments. yeah, my take is Switch's dad?, an experienced time traveler himself, was trying to teach her how to time travel responsibly so you don't cause reality to unravel. unfortunately David's influence over her makes her fail to heed his advice.
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Jul 25, 2019 01:55
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uber_stoat posted:yeah, my take is Switch's dad?, an experienced time traveler himself, was trying to teach her how to time travel responsibly so you don't cause reality to unravel. unfortunately David's influence over her makes her fail to heed his advice. Or, alternately, the guy controlling this whole thing from the getgo. I mean, anything's possible in this show. I kind of like how the weird timeline shenanigans sort of justify the weird poo poo like robots with mustaches and airships that can cross some sort of 'atmospheric barrier' into space. Like, that's just how poo poo worked out in this timeline, everything is a mixture of the 1960s and the far future, get over it.
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itd be pretty funny if shadow king comes back to the ship, sees syd's shell of a body, hops into it and goes back in time to start the whole season 2 shenanigans
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Terror Sweat posted:itd be pretty funny if shadow king comes back to the ship, sees syd's shell of a body, hops into it and goes back in time to start the whole season 2 shenanigans I think the only truly unanswered question is what David was doing in the pokeball for a year and why.
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Jul 25, 2019 03:16
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Gobbeldygook posted:No, Farouk and Future Syd met in season 2. If Future Syd was Farouk he would have just said, "Hey man, it's me, Future Farouk." There was a lot they talked about we didn't hear
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Jul 25, 2019 03:21
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ashpanash posted:Or, alternately, the guy controlling this whole thing from the getgo Noticed on the intro of the first episode the words "bedtime is here" display on the TV monitor showing an Indian-head test pattern. In the time travel episode a guy appears on the TV that looks similar to Switch's dad but younger and he says "bedtime is here" in between a bunch of ominious foreboding stuff about doors and something (Farouk?) being underneath a pillow.
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Gobbeldygook posted:I think the only truly unanswered question is what David was doing in the pokeball for a year and why. Forgot about this but yeah, didn’t Cary say something about how the poke ball looked like his tech but he didn’t remember building it? Time travel fuckery my dude
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Yea i figure that will come to play later. But isn't David's motivation "don't I deserve love? Don't I deserve happiness?", but he doesn't care about what that does to other people. Only him being loved and him being happy matters.
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twistedmentat posted:But isn't David's motivation "don't I deserve love? Don't I deserve happiness?", but he doesn't care about what that does to other people. Only him being loved and him being happy matters. "Nothing that hurts me is real! No one who hates me is real! Acts of God? I am God." "Go. Or I kill every one of you."
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Jul 25, 2019 04:18
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beanieson posted:Forgot about this but yeah, didn’t Cary say something about how the poke ball looked like his tech but he didn’t remember building it?
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Jul 25, 2019 04:25
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Maybe it was intended to grab that David to fight the contemporary David?
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Chokes McGee posted:I don’t remember any of this?? Did you play to the very, very end of the 40 different endings Nier had?
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Jul 25, 2019 05:54
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Your Gay Uncle posted:Did you play to the very, very end of the 40 different endings Nier had? You just got whooshed, my dude
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Jul 25, 2019 06:34
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Strobe posted:You just got whooshed, my dude That’s ok, I can go back, we can fix it. It will all be ok!
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Jul 25, 2019 07:00
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Legion will end the same way as Zero Escape: Zero Time Dilemma
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Its the best, most reasonably argued, motivation for villainy I've ever seen. I'm pretty sure I've worked with people that think like David.
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twistedmentat posted:Yea i figure that will come to play later. It's very easy to read this whole show as a takedown of toxic masculinity; he feels like he deserves everything because ?? he was traumatized as a child? I know it's a weird shadow demon but a lot of people have been tortured, abused, and oppressed throughout their whole lives and their response to that is not to make everything in the world about you. But at the same time it's also tragic, because of course you can understand why David is the way he is, there is just no one left who can contain him or help him - and yet, all his actions were made for completely selfish, thoughtless reasons that show a complete lack of empathy for anyone around him, because he is just that afraid of being unloved.
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