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Maybe Data/B-4 being disassembled and thrown in a drawer is at the end instead of the beginning. Data and B-4's personalities merged like Tuvix. Except Tuvok was maybe 5x smarter than Neelix, whereas Data is 9000x smarter than B-4. So unlike Tuvix who wanted to live, Dafore really wants to die. who wouldn't
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piratepilates posted:Can someone give me a minimal list of STD episodes to watch to get a full sense of the show (good and bad). Everything I've seen looks just so awful and I feel like I need to actually see some of it first hand, but I don't want to watch a full 2 seasons of it. For a "minimal" list I'm tempted to say just follow your instincts and watch none of it.
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The Bloop posted:Star Trek: Near Misses George Carlin's preferred definition of a mid-air collision fits Nemesis perfectly! George Carlin posted:Aw, they nearly missed!
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Jul 24, 2019 20:53
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piratepilates posted:Can someone give me a minimal list of STD episodes to watch to get a full sense of the show (good and bad). Everything I've seen looks just so awful and I feel like I need to actually see some of it first hand, but I don't want to watch a full 2 seasons of it. Watch the “The Cage” episode. If you don’t like it you’ll probably hate the rest of it. If you like it, then at least you didn’t waste your time on any of the really bad ones.
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I just want to chime in and say that it's pretty cool that they are bringing back Hugh and not recasting him because that probably would have been an easy thing for them to do.
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Jul 24, 2019 21:22
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DrNutt posted:I just want to chime in and say that it's pretty cool that they are bringing back Hugh and not recasting him because that probably would have been an easy thing for them to do. Jonathan Del Arco doesn't age. He had a recurring role as the medical examiner on The Closer and Major Crimes, the latter of which had its series finale last year, and I swear he could pass for the "I, Borg"-era Hugh without missing a beat, despite now being in his mid-50s.
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Jul 24, 2019 21:29
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Wow, you aren't kidding. I hope I look half as good when I'm 53.
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Jul 24, 2019 21:36
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DrNutt posted:I just want to chime in and say that it's pretty cool that they are bringing back Hugh and not recasting him because that probably would have been an easy thing for them to do. Yeah, I think the DISCO path would've been to put in some new Borg character named "Lou" that was actually Hugh's adopted brother.
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Finster Dexter posted:Yeah, I think the DISCO path would've been to put in some new Borg character named "Lou" that was actually Hugh's adopted brother. Sphughck
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piratepilates posted:Can someone give me a minimal list of STD episodes to watch to get a full sense of the show (good and bad). Everything I've seen looks just so awful and I feel like I need to actually see some of it first hand, but I don't want to watch a full 2 seasons of it. Watch season two until you start hating it, plus the time loop episode in season 1.
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:You're in luck, that is the next chapter of my Power Rangers/TNG fanfic and in fact the Pakled have teamed up with Armus  Spiner actually looks thinner right now IRL than Fat Data. 
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Jul 24, 2019 23:46
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I like star trek discovery! The season long plots are terrible and make no sense, but it has a great cast and it's got some good individual episodes. I think if you're a star trek fan you can probably ignore intermittently bad writing, some dreadfully bad premises and some bafflingly terrible production decisions and you should watch 2 whole seasons but if you know you won't like it here's a shortlist: S1E7: Magic to make the Sanest Man Go Mad Harry Mudd is here for revenge! It's fun! S1E8: Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum They explore a new world and discover a new life form in this episode! What a concept! S1E11: The Wolf Inside We're in the mirror universe now! Then watch season 2 episodes 1-8. Those are actually good! Season 2 episode 11: Perpetual infinity Only if you're a big fan of Sonja Sohn
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piratepilates posted:Can someone give me a minimal list of STD episodes to watch to get a full sense of the show (good and bad). Everything I've seen looks just so awful and I feel like I need to actually see some of it first hand, but I don't want to watch a full 2 seasons of it. If you want minimal, here is the shortest possible thing you can watch to tell you everything you need to know about STD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gsg4kgZDfIA
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Jul 25, 2019 00:18
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Jewel Repetition posted:If you want minimal, here is the shortest possible thing you can watch to tell you everything you need to know about STD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gsg4kgZDfIA i hate it
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Jul 25, 2019 00:25
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I did not watch the whole song Yikes that's bad The show is way, way better than that. Watching for Saru and various captains is worth it in the same way watching VOY for the doctor and Seven is worth it
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Jul 25, 2019 00:32
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piratepilates posted:i hate it Correct
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Jewel Repetition posted:If you want minimal, here is the shortest possible thing you can watch to tell you everything you need to know about STD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gsg4kgZDfIA I love Discovery and those actors and still hated this. So.
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Jewel Repetition posted:If you want minimal, here is the shortest possible thing you can watch to tell you everything you need to know about STD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gsg4kgZDfIA If you want to find out about this show please draw your impressions from this 1-minute goofy blooper reel-level musical number 
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Jul 25, 2019 01:57
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Is there a reason why you all keep making jokes about Brent Spiner's weight?
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Nodosaur posted:Is there a reason why you all keep making jokes about Brent Spiner's weight?  \ iS tHeRe A rEaSoN wHy YoU aLl KeEp MaKiNg JoKeS aBoUt BrEnT sPiNeR’s WeIgHt?
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piratepilates posted:Can someone give me a minimal list of STD episodes to watch to get a full sense of the show (good and bad). Everything I've seen looks just so awful and I feel like I need to actually see some of it first hand, but I don't want to watch a full 2 seasons of it. L O G I C T E R R O R I S T
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I would say the way that video is ill-conceived and awkward with off-putting attempted pandering and shoutouts to nerds, makes it perfectly representative
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Jewel Repetition posted:I would say the way that video is ill-conceived and awkward with off-putting attempted pandering and shoutouts to nerds, makes it perfectly representative
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Jul 25, 2019 02:53
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If you judged a Trek by it's first two seasons alone, there is no good Trek. Drink-Mix Man posted:Hey I would actually like that. The way Control was thwarted did not feel satisfying or actually like it was over, just that they had to wrap it up and wrote selves into a spock corner first. Discovery had a lot of cool bits, caught in its whole mess. Saru is a great character any Trek would be lucky to have. Voyager is my favourite Trek series and TOS (j/k never been able to make it through to even fairly judge) my least so what do I know.
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Jul 25, 2019 02:56
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Nodosaur posted:Is there a reason why you all keep making jokes about Brent Spiner's weight? Is this like some fat-shaming virtue signaling because give me a break dude
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Jul 25, 2019 03:11
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Khanstant posted:
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Jul 25, 2019 03:12
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Snow Cone Capone posted:virtue signaling
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piratepilates posted:what on earth "A ship is a ship."
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Jul 25, 2019 03:16
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Today we can rest easy knowing that the SA Star Trek thread is a safe space for *checks notes* millionaire white actors.
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Snow Cone Capone posted:Is this like some fat-shaming virtue signaling because give me a break dude No, it's a "I don't see where this comes from, I can't find pictures where he looks fat and I'm curious as to where this comes from" thing. I'm fat myself and uncomfortable about that kind of thing, so yeah, but I also know that speaking up about this on this forum tends to be a more trouble than it's worth. I'm just looking for information here.
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LividLiquid posted:Imagine thinking speaking out for the marginalized is something you'd only do so you'd benefit personally and thinking that's an opinion that's good to have. I literally laughed out loud at this, so thank you for the feigned outrage over "lol the artificial human is fat now"
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It's not even about Brent Spiner being fat it's about laughably bad de-aging they did that made Data look fat
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I personally have a dad bod and find fat Data hilarious
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ah. Y'all have an extremely low bar for that sorta thing, then.
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Jul 25, 2019 03:26
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Nodosaur posted:No, it's a "I don't see where this comes from, I can't find pictures where he looks fat and I'm curious as to where this comes from" thing. Fair enough, if anyone is specifically commenting about Spiner being fat vs Data I get it. He didn't like gain 200 pounds, he just gained 25 years and not everyone is Patrick Stewart. I apologize for the assumption. I still maintain Fat Data is pretty funny, though. e: I'm kind of fat too for gods sake, it's this and nothing but this: Jewel Repetition posted:It's not even about Brent Spiner being fat it's about laughably bad de-aging they did that made Data look fat
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I mean unless you're a fitness nut or have had work done or both you're gonna be significantly more blobby and shapeless than your self thirty years ago. Patrick Stewart has definitely had plastic surgery, and he's also talked about how he has never had trouble maintaining his weight.
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Jul 25, 2019 03:27
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If you wanna talk about decay listen to Anthony Rapp's voice in that clip, drat. They guy has let the vocal warm-ups slip!
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THE NON-FAT-SHAMING POINT is that they absolutely did not have to bring Data back for this show. Not only did they bring him back, but instead of either full CGI a la Tarkin in Rogue One, or letting Old Spiner play Old Data and explaining that, they decided to smooth over his face without changing the shape, and the result is, IMO, pretty drat comical. You can either have Virtual Data or "I allowed myself to get old and jowly for the look of things" Data, but anything in between is some uncanny valley poo poo. I really wish that hadn't caused this idiotic derail.
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I'm just saying, if that image of Data and having a "dad bod" are what you all consider fat, then that seems like the gap is rather thin. Did you all think Colm Meaney and his round face with plentiful cheeks was fat too? It's not just a matter of whether it's appropriate or funny or not, it just feels like people's cut off point for this kind of body image keep going further and further down. Think it's funny all you want. I won't stop you. It's just very, very weird to me. His model in the new Picard show looks very fake and extremely unfinished, but I can't see "fat" at all.
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