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Comparing the newly translated version of Higurashi Chapter 7 with the previous version, the difference really isn't that much. So now that I'm done with 7 I'm just playing Chapter 8 using the older translation. Really don't feel like waiting a year. Chapter 8 beginning spoilers Looks like a huge chunk of this is going to be Takano's backstory. Interested to see how she went from someone who just wanted to continue the work her "Grandfather" did to going batshit insane. Keep thinking she got infected with the disease As for Chapter 7 the ending felt oddly triumphant, even though Rika and friends died pretty horrifically
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Jul 23, 2019 17:30
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Random thought. Why is it that so so many otherwise excellent VNs don't have an option for instant text display? (Phoenix Wright was the example that triggered the thought this time, but it's quite common even or especially in big-name titles.) Like, with eroge it's pretty much a 99% guarantee that setting will exist. (OR SO I'VE HEARD.)
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Jul 24, 2019 14:26
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thark posted:Random thought. I can chalk it up to engine bullshit to help sleep at night but yeah, it's a feature that should be just there all the time. I read quickly so I always turn on instant. Otherwise, I tend to miss stuff hammering enter\space.
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Jul 24, 2019 14:40
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thark posted:Random thought. Well it makes sense that eroge would have text skip options 
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Jul 24, 2019 14:43
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Because the Phoenix Wright devs go through a lot of trouble to make the text display and bloops imitate the pace of speech and they don't want to just let you just toggle their hard work off
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Jul 24, 2019 14:57
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thark posted:Random thought. e: you might also be comparing independently created games like Umineko to more professionally produced games from established studios. Irony Be My Shield fucked around with this message at 15:15 on Jul 24, 2019 |
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Jul 24, 2019 15:03
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With VNs I usually try to set it up so that the autoplay finishes at approximately the same rate that I finish reading, which usually takes a bit of finesse. I like doing it that way so that if there are voices they are given enough time to play.
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Jul 24, 2019 15:15
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Imagine being the kind of person that advances the text before the VA finishes 
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Jul 24, 2019 15:28
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Imagine being the person that doesn't mute the voices.  ... I'm not the weird one here, right?
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Jul 24, 2019 16:41
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Irony Be My Shield posted:PC VNs all tend to run on the same couple of engines or minor proprietary variations on them, console developers presumably have to make up their own engine and won't always be able to add all the standard features to it.
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Jul 24, 2019 16:50
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Nate RFB posted:Matsuribayashi = Festival Accompanying .....huh.. I'm thinking maybe my initial reaction to their sprite may have been influenced by the fact that they're both blond with red eyes, so an aged-down Takano witch would look exactly like Satoko. But the "ho ho ho" thing and all her talk of traps has me twisted. The Mi Yo = 34 thing seems more straightforward than most hints, though. Also, theblackw0lf - not quoting you here for fear of those chapter 8 spoilers, but is the old translation available somewhere to buy? e: also I'm mildly pleased with myself for recognizing the word Matsuri from the title of 8, just wasn't sure if it was some weird compound/false root thing
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Jul 24, 2019 16:50
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? The former seems to be a stronger overall connection, at least thematically to me. This sort of stuff is all very interesting to dissect but at the same time it feels so intentionally vague that in the end it may be closer to a red herring.
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Irony Be My Shield posted:e: you might also be comparing independently created games like Umineko to more professionally produced games from established studios. I mean obviously there's a big step from even "big-name" porn game publishers to say Spike Chunsoft but I'm definitely not just talking about amateur stuff. AFancyQuestionMark posted:Imagine being the kind of person that advances the text before the VA finishes I can't even imagine having the patience to always wait for VA finish when I'm already done reading the line.
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Jul 24, 2019 18:41
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Spike-Chunsoft would fall under "console developers" even if most of their games were later ported to PC. e: I guess "adventure games" tend not to let you skip text like that in general. Irony Be My Shield fucked around with this message at 19:36 on Jul 24, 2019 |
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Jul 24, 2019 19:33
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I hate instant text, but I also don't like the text moving slower than I read, so in VNs that have a setting for it I usually set the text speed to the fastest it will go without being instant. Dunno why, but the new text instantly appearing on the screen just grates on me. I need to see the text gradually appearing on the screen, even if it is so fast it might as well be instant.
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Jul 25, 2019 08:33
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AFancyQuestionMark posted:Imagine being the kind of person that advances the text before the VA finishes Some of us have mortal lifespans. These things are 5 million words long
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Jul 25, 2019 09:21
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Redmark posted:Some of us have mortal lifespans. These things are 5 million words long If you aren't ready to spend 80 hours of your life on listening to characters tell the same things to each other over and over with slightly different words, then IDK what you're doing in this thread.
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Jul 25, 2019 09:32
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AG3 posted:I hate instant text, but I also don't like the text moving slower than I read, so in VNs that have a setting for it I usually set the text speed to the fastest it will go without being instant. Dunno why, but the new text instantly appearing on the screen just grates on me. I need to see the text gradually appearing on the screen, even if it is so fast it might as well be instant. this is also me, slow is annoying but instant feels bad. that little bit of motion of the text appearing is juicy.
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Jul 25, 2019 10:14
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Letting the entire VA play out before skipping to me depends on context. In Uminkeo I would usually skip it during the more slice of life scenes, but anything that had strong emotional weight, or pretty much any scene with Beatrice or Erika I would let play out all the way. In Higurashi I skip them for the SOL but let them play out during the emotional beats.
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Jul 25, 2019 17:23
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man I haven't even played umineko since they added voice acting did it add a lot to the experience? and did anything ever become of that official umineko dub that was announced at one point?
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Jul 25, 2019 19:58
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AFancyQuestionMark posted:Imagine being the kind of person that advances the text before the VA finishes I turn all voices off so I can read quicker
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Jul 25, 2019 22:09
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You guys are all crazy, most of these don't have voices anyway. I didn't bother to mod Oblivion, I'm not gonna mod a freakin' book.
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Jul 25, 2019 22:14
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As someone who only plays vns on consoles, I don’t think I’ve ever run across an unvoiced vn.
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Jul 26, 2019 01:58
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I think the only voices I ever let finish consistently were Faris' in steins gate and Miu's in DRV3 because they were so ridiculous. Otherwise mashing my left click is just part of the vn experience.
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Jul 26, 2019 02:06
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I cranked the volume on my Vita and let the voices play out for much of S;G. Okabe's voice was just so drat fun. By the end I was furiously mashing Advance to keep reading faster than the voices could go, but for particularly dramatic moments I'm pretty sure I went back to the log and manually triggered the voice lines.
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Jul 26, 2019 02:10
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"Reading Steiner" had a way of getting funnier the more it was said.
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Jul 26, 2019 02:16
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Sakurazuka posted:I turn all voices off so I can read quicker This
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Jul 26, 2019 08:33
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I'm really enjoying chapter 6 of higurashi but  .
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Jul 26, 2019 08:52
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Squiddycat posted:man I haven't even played umineko since they added voice acting Absolutely. Especially the VA for Beatrice who consistently knocked her lines out of the loving park. There's simply no way that the original voiceless version conveyed the character nearly as well. This is most apparent with this scene near the end of Episode 2. Imagine missing out on that just to get the experience over with quicker. AFancyQuestionMark fucked around with this message at 09:16 on Jul 26, 2019 |
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Jul 26, 2019 09:03
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Squiddycat posted:man I haven't even played umineko since they added voice acting Beato's VA alone evalated the game so much that I just let the voices speak out. Tis ridiculously good. Beato's voiced lines were spectacular. Sayaka Ohara is a gift to mankind
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Jul 26, 2019 10:01
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Sakurazuka posted:I turn all voices off so I can read quicker This, if I could understand Japanese I wouldn't need a translation. I get very very very little out of VA that I don't understand the language of
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Jul 26, 2019 14:39
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klapman posted:This, if I could understand Japanese I wouldn't need a translation. I get very very very little out of VA that I don't understand the language of I find intonation goes a long way when I do listen to VA. A good Beato yelling "BATTTLLEERRRRR!!" comes across well in voice. I also have developed a tick of my reading matching the voice, even if the actual words aren't the same. I do play a lot without sound because I play remotely, during lunch breaks at work. Without it, I'd never even finish 90% of what I own.
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Jul 26, 2019 15:04
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In Umineko it makes it easier to tell who's speaking.
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Jul 26, 2019 15:27
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I read all of Umineko pre-voices & it was excellent but I also really like the voices & love Ohara even if her Beatrice sounds different from how I first imagined
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Jul 26, 2019 16:34
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Beato's voiceover might be half the reason I love that game so much.
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Jul 26, 2019 17:51
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I remembered the name of the umineko dub people and the latest update is them still refusing to elaborate why their kickstarter has been delayed by eight months now It's odd
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Jul 26, 2019 17:55
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How legal was that dub project even to begin with? It seemed a little sketchy to me, if not also kind of pointless.
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Jul 26, 2019 18:04
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Umineko's use of sfx was so good that I never even considered that it needed voices. Maybe I'll try it some time.
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Jul 26, 2019 18:33
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Dubbing over a long VN like Umineko is an insanely large project, they might not've appreciated that.
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Jul 26, 2019 18:41
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Irritated Goat posted:I find intonation goes a long way when I do listen to VA. A good Beato yelling "BATTTLLEERRRRR!!" comes across well in voice. I also have developed a tick of my reading matching the voice, even if the actual words aren't the same. I will say that it taught me that it wasn't Beat-o, but Be-ah-to. Other than that though, I've played a whole lot of VNs since 2008 and now unless I really really like the voice acting in a particular game, I just listen long enough to kinda "get the gist" of how the character sounds and then go on without. Dies Irae had great voice acting even if I hated nearly everything else about it. (Except for Shirou and Ellie) e: Oh yeah, and part of why I liked Fata Morgana so much is that it was made to not be voiced from the start, which is getting rarer in quality productions. It does affect how the writing is structured, if only in small ways. I find that they have to put more effort into the written "voices" of the characters when there isn't an actual VA.
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klapman posted:I will say that it taught me that it wasn't Beat-o, but Be-ah-to. Other than that though, I've played a whole lot of VNs since 2008 and now unless I really really like the voice acting in a particular game, I just listen long enough to kinda "get the gist" of how the character sounds and then go on without. Dies Irae had great voice acting even if I hated nearly everything else about it. (Except for Shirou and Ellie) This is true, which is why I thought FM:Reincarnation's VA didn't really add much to the game. I honestly just turned it off. It was good VA, just not necessary. (Plus I already had in my head how these characters sound to me, so hearing voices was jarring)
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