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Gort posted:But what's the best name for this species? 
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Zurai posted:Did you explore it with a science ship first? I'm not sure if that's what you meant by stabilizing. I know where the other end is, I right clicked on it with my science ship and told it to travel to the other end, and that was like five in-game months ago. The route arrow for the ship is now white, not orange, though. I thought wormholes are instant, or is this the "exploring" part I have to do before they become instant? The other side appears to be unclaimed so I'd really like to get this working.
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Jul 25, 2019 21:01
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Does the system on the other side have a name? If not you'll have to send a science ship first. Select the ship and right click on the wormhole to send it through.
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Jul 25, 2019 21:06
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUi5xKQXG6I
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Jul 25, 2019 21:07
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Is the science ship set to evasive? Because if there are hostiles in the system I believe that bugs it out and the ship "knows" that it shouldn't go there. Set the ship to passive and try again.
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Jul 25, 2019 21:13
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Gort posted:But what's the best name for this species? I use them as the Vol for my Mass Effect collection. They're the only ones with the mask, and it amuses me to think that the Vol might all be secret birdmen.
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Jul 25, 2019 21:21
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These are mine The end game is of course getting a colossus and bubbling as many planets as possible.
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Well, I created my first empire and am about to dive in. I just grabbed civics and traits that sounded strong in general, had no idea what to do as far as ethics so I just tried to go for something close to space communism. This look like it'll work alright?
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Jul 26, 2019 04:09
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Meridian posted:Well, I created my first empire and am about to dive in. I just grabbed civics and traits that sounded strong in general, had no idea what to do as far as ethics so I just tried to go for something close to space communism. This look like it'll work alright?
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Jul 26, 2019 04:21
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It'll work. If you really want space Communism you want Fanatic Egalitarian ethic and the Shared Burdens Civic. Only a slight shift from where you are now.
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Jul 26, 2019 04:32
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Well, since we're showing off our created empires, here's mine so far. My Hellgoats were my first creation. They've been a pretty sturdy empire so far.  My current version of the Intergalactic Church of Satan. It's not quite the portrait I wanted since I was looking for something humanoid hooded or with a bandanna mask, but this'll do for now.  Some of the portraits are just so wonderfully Lovecraftian, I had to make these guys. I did give them Shoggoth servants.  And here's my zombies.
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Jul 26, 2019 04:52
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OwlFancier posted:Is the science ship set to evasive? Because if there are hostiles in the system I believe that bugs it out and the ship "knows" that it shouldn't go there. Set the ship to passive and try again. The stance is passive. Here's a screenshot of the ship and its route. https://imgur.com/bgu2jh3 The other side looks like this, so I guess I was mistaken about it being unclaimed. I have no idea who they are, though.: https://imgur.com/uYMu7Zs xarph fucked around with this message at 05:51 on Jul 26, 2019 |
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Jul 26, 2019 05:44
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Servetus posted:It'll work. If you really want space Communism you want Fanatic Egalitarian ethic and the Shared Burdens Civic. Only a slight shift from where you are now. Originally I was running Intelligent and Very Strong and had a vision of Space Marine enforced galactic communism, but I'm just into super far left politics right now because I live in hellworld. I had seen that Technocracy is generally considered really powerful so I just picked ethics to unlock that. My experience with other strategy games made me think that prioritizing science/research wouldn't be a terrible idea, so I dropped very strong so I wouldn't need to take non adaptive. My original concept was technocracy and life seeded, but it didn't quite fit with the options, and combining non adaptive with a Gaia world bias seemed like setting myself up for a hard early game.
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Eh, technocracy isn't that powerful. It's good if you're going to play Fan Mat anyway, but it's hardly game breaking.xarph posted:The stance is passive. Here's a screenshot of the ship and its route. https://imgur.com/bgu2jh3 Yeah the red background on the wormhole on your side means it's not explored. Do you have the Wormhole Stabilization technology? If so, select the science ship, right click Myrum, and tell it to explore the wormhole. I think you can do it from the galaxy level anyway, if that doesn't work, zoom into the system, right click the wormhole, and tell it to explore it.
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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PittTheElder posted:Yeah the red background on the wormhole on your side means it's not explored. Do you have the Wormhole Stabilization technology? If so, select the science ship, right click Myrum, and tell it to explore the wormhole. I think you can do it from the galaxy level anyway, if that doesn't work, zoom into the system, right click the wormhole, and tell it to explore it. Gaaria's mine. The other one belongs to someone else. I've since figured it out: there's a bunch of crystalline aliens on the other side of the wormhole with closed borders. I found a second wormhole elsewhere and that one transports instantly.  Next question: is there tech further down the tree that lets me send stuff other than science ships through explored wormholes?
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Jul 26, 2019 06:33
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xarph posted:Next question: is there tech further down the tree that lets me send stuff other than science ships through explored wormholes? Once the wormhole is stabilized and you get sensor info on the connected system (either by having enough +sensor range or sending a science ship through) any ship can go through a wormhole, iirc
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Vavrek posted:The first one, I guess the AI settled with slaves and hasn't figured out how to get a citizen there to administrate. If anyone's sick of me dumping Splicer's Modding Diary out into this thread please say (feel free to PM me to privately tell me to STFU I won't tell anyone)
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What's the most efficient way to colonise? I always just grab every decently-habitable planet I can and settle them all at once, but I have a feeling the immigration and colony status mechanics mean that isn't the best way to do things.
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I try to make sure I have enough extra food to pay to amp up the earliest phase of colonization so I can start getting buildings and stuff
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Penultimate efficiency: Colonise a green planet, take the expansion tree +1 pop perk just before it finishes. Don't slap the +growth decision on it until you upgrade the colony building, it's getting halved by the colony modifier. As soon as you can afford it shuffle some pops onto it to get it to 10 and upgrade, if you don't want to go that route slap the +immigration decision on instead. Repeat on next best planet. Once you have three planets with full growth you can start doubling up on two planets at once in order of habitability. Don't bother with red planets. Ultimate efficiency: Rush destroyers and supremacy and steal your neighbours' colonies instead.
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CainsDescendant posted:Once the wormhole is stabilized and you get sensor info on the connected system (either by having enough +sensor range or sending a science ship through) any ship can go through a wormhole, iirc In fact you can explore a wormhole with any ship, it doesn't have to be a science ship.
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Just noticed machine empire expansion is different to organic empire expansion so you don't have to do anything special at all with them.
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Oh yeah machine empires are just grow grow grow as fast as alloys, energy, and minerals will let you.
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Splicer posted:This is because the start_colony command is bugged so it ignores species input. Presumably back in the days of colonies rioting during colonisation it would spawn the appropriate pops immediately. Now the pops don't spawn until colonisation is complete and start_colony doesn't do whatever colony ships do to flag what pops to spawn so it just pulls a random pop type from your empire. As a kludge fix I'm making an on_colonization event to kill inappropriate pops and replace them with better ones. 
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Staltran posted:In fact you can explore a wormhole with any ship, it doesn't have to be a science ship. Are you sure that's not a mod?
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I think there was a bug in one of the earlier patches where I had ships that could either traverse an unexplored wormhole once I got the wormhole tech, or only one side of a wormhole would count as 'explored' and the other side would look like it hadn't. Either way at one point I noticed ships using routes that made no sense and on further inspection saw they were using wormholes I didn't even know were there. Haven't noticed this behaviour in any recent games though.
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Korgan posted:Are you sure that's not a mod? I'm 99% sure I've done it in MP with no mods that touch the checksum.
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Psychotic Weasel posted:I think there was a bug in one of the earlier patches where I had ships that could either traverse an unexplored wormhole once I got the wormhole tech, or only one side of a wormhole would count as 'explored' and the other side would look like it hadn't. Either way at one point I noticed ships using routes that made no sense and on further inspection saw they were using wormholes I didn't even know were there. Yeah, there was a while where ships would path through wormholes you hadn't explored yet, but that got fixed in the last patch or two.
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Splicer posted:This is because the start_colony command is bugged so it ignores species input. Presumably back in the days of colonies rioting during colonisation it would spawn the appropriate pops immediately. Now the pops don't spawn until colonisation is complete and start_colony doesn't do whatever colony ships do to flag what pops to spawn so it just pulls a random pop type from your empire. As a kludge fix I'm making an on_colonization event to kill inappropriate pops and replace them with better ones. Slightly related, something I noticed when building a ringworld: I think there's an event for when you first complete a section of the ringworld, and I didn't get that. I only got the events for building the frame and for completing the whole ring. I am, of course, interested in continuing to read the entries of Splicer's Modding Diary.
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Korgan posted:Are you sure that's not a mod? It's very much a built-in thing. It doesn't show up if you right click on the galaxy map, but if you do it from the system level it works perfectly. I try to pre-stage corvettes in every system I can access with a wormhole to instantly scan all of them as soon as the tech is researched. It lets my science ships focus on more useful things like surveying planets instead of wasting months travelling to every wormhole to explore them.
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Meridian posted:space communism Fanatical Egalitarian Materialist Shared Burdens Byzantine Bureaucracy Advisor voice: The Worker  Workers of the Galaxy, unite! You have nothing to lose but your restraining fields.
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Come to think of it, Fully-Byzantine Luxury Goon Space Communism is a great way to learn the game. It provides great bonuses to amenities and happiness, makes consumer goods ramp predictably, and is extremely forgiving with unemployment. ^ whom amongst you is the owner of the goon empires mod, anyway? I volunteer to update it for ya
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I want to play as a gay space communist but shudder at the thought of feeling obligated to turn off forced resettlement.
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binge crotching posted:It's very much a built-in thing. It doesn't show up if you right click on the galaxy map, but if you do it from the system level it works perfectly. I try to pre-stage corvettes in every system I can access with a wormhole to instantly scan all of them as soon as the tech is researched. It lets my science ships focus on more useful things like surveying planets instead of wasting months travelling to every wormhole to explore them. I like to use construction ships personally.
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So can anyone help me out with general build order or early game direction? I didn't realize at first you needed to recruit a scientist in order to pilot a second science ship and had already spent my initial minerals on a mining station. More or less just develop starting system while surveying the poo poo out of everything?
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Meridian posted:So can anyone help me out with general build order or early game direction? I didn't realize at first you needed to recruit a scientist in order to pilot a second science ship and had already spent my initial minerals on a mining station. Colonize early and often, more pops are better and more planets = more growing pops
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Meridian posted:So can anyone help me out with general build order or early game direction? I didn't realize at first you needed to recruit a scientist in order to pilot a second science ship and had already spent my initial minerals on a mining station. Hit +speed twice. Wait 30 seconds.
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Meridian posted:So can anyone help me out with general build order or early game direction? I didn't realize at first you needed to recruit a scientist in order to pilot a second science ship and had already spent my initial minerals on a mining station. New Science Ship (alloys) + New Scientist (Energy) while having my construction ship build the mineral mine in my home system (Minerals) then the Energy mine in my home system (Minerals) then the science deposits (more minerals) Wait until a new pop is about halfway grown I start then new building or district (minerals) (your choice (in my Exalted Priesthood playthrough I built a Temple first)). This gives you time to let your energy reserve build up again. Then Clear the Slums for the extra pop (energy). Sometimes here I sell a few CGs and/or minerals to have enough energy to clear the slums When energy builds back up again I build a third science ship + scientist
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Meridian posted:So can anyone help me out with general build order or early game direction? I didn't realize at first you needed to recruit a scientist in order to pilot a second science ship and had already spent my initial minerals on a mining station. While paused:
Everything past here is fluid, and based on a lot of judgement calls. But as a loose priority ranking:
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Meridian posted:So can anyone help me out with general build order or early game direction? I didn't realize at first you needed to recruit a scientist in order to pilot a second science ship and had already spent my initial minerals on a mining station. 1. Enact Map the Stars edict 2. Enter policy screen, pass nutritional plenitude and balanced economy if they're not already set. 3. Build mineral mining station, follow up with energy mining station once you hit 100 minerals again. 4. Build science vessels every time you can afford it until you have 4. 5. Recruit scientists till all your vessels are manned, selling food to get them sooner. 6. Build either a unity building or an alloy forge once you have enough minerals. Do this before building research stations. 7. Realize your rulers traits are poo poo and restart, vowing to never play anything but robits. 8. Unpause
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