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Not quite brainworms, but rather like the copper poisoned bad guy in Speed 2?
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Regarding my specific use case for compiling Rust:Holy_City posted:To shill for a second and go off topic, if anyone is thinking of upgrading a machine and concerned about compile times, I recently began putting together a new home workstation with a Ryzen 3000 series processor and it's blazing fast for LLVM compile loads. I'm noticing significantly improved compile times for projects with a lot of dependencies, seems to scale well with core/thread count. Things are looking very promising indeed. This is what it looks like when compiling something in rust on a 3900X: 
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Measly Twerp posted:I've been a Ryzen late adopter twice, and maybe I've just gotten duds twice, or perhaps they bin the better silicon to the X chips only?
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BangersInMyKnickers posted:Sweet summer child... code:
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I can't help it if the system is transactional and clears out its workload so fast you barely see it churning
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BangersInMyKnickers posted:I can't help it if the system is transactional and clears out its workload so fast you barely see it churning Shameful capacity planning! 
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570 itx boards are in short supply here (UK). Any thoughts on the best of them?
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Asus is actively trying to kill the popular narrative about their use of doublers these days: https://videocardz.com/newz/something-gigabyte-msi-and-amd-do-not-want-you-to-see I mean, as long as the tests are legit and there is nothin fucky? I don't have a problem with them going after their competitors. Although in nearly every comparison, the Asus board is like $30 more expensive than the ones they have chosen to compare against. I'm sure Asus would say "thats because our boards have better features!" but yeah. Also lol, zero Asrock comparisons.
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OhFunny posted:Deleted lol now do the channel
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I'm loving that they highlighted DP-out as a salient feature for an X570 motherboard.
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OhFunny posted:Deleted lol https://twitter.com/AdoredTV/status/1154014569108520960 https://twitter.com/sherkelman/status/1154050072847327234
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First the Jebaited poo poo and now this, someone launch Scott into the sun before he does more harm.
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Cygni posted:Asus is actively trying to kill the popular narrative about their use of doublers these days: The other manufacturers could just list out their BIOS update schedule for every board they have made over the last couple of years and then leave the ASUS portion blank as a retort. I've got 4 expensive ROG boards from various HEDT generations and it would be nice if they got updates and support for longer than 12 months. Meanwhile, my much cheaper Asrock boards have had plenty of updates to resolve funky issues like mcupdate_GenuineIntel.dll killing your OC or certain PCI-e cards not being detected on boot. KillaZilla fucked around with this message at 01:19 on Jul 26, 2019 |
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I've been hearing a lot of horror stories about people getting Zen 2 to work with MSI B450 Tomahawk boards, but does anyone have any experience with the Mortar? It's available in my country and I was thinking about going with it for my new build, since most people say it's the best mATX B450 board, but I'm wondering if I should just avoid MSI altogether.
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Drunk in Space posted:I've been hearing a lot of horror stories about people getting Zen 2 to work with MSI B450 Tomahawk boards, but does anyone have any experience with the Mortar? It's available in my country and I was thinking about going with it for my new build, since most people say it's the best mATX B450 board, but I'm wondering if I should just avoid MSI altogether. Likely best to wait until MSI launch the “Max” boards with double the BIOS space. At least in Canada the MSI boards are broadly out of stock anyhow.
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Drunk in Space posted:I've been hearing a lot of horror stories about people getting Zen 2 to work with MSI B450 Tomahawk boards, but does anyone have any experience with the Mortar? It's available in my country and I was thinking about going with it for my new build, since most people say it's the best mATX B450 board, but I'm wondering if I should just avoid MSI altogether. I have a mortar titanium, which I'm led believe is the same except grey instead of black, and I'm about to start my build tonight, I'll let you know how it goes
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Yeah, the Titanium is the one I was looking at getting too. I found a supplier who says they'll flash the BIOS for me if I get my CPU from them too, but I guess I'm just a bit wary because the thing that's prompting this upgrade is that my current motherboard has been dying a prolonged death for a while, and so I really want to make sure I won't have issues with the new one right out of the gate.
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Drunk in Space posted:I've been hearing a lot of horror stories about people getting Zen 2 to work with MSI B450 Tomahawk boards, but does anyone have any experience with the Mortar? It's available in my country and I was thinking about going with it for my new build, since most people say it's the best mATX B450 board, but I'm wondering if I should just avoid MSI altogether. What problems have you been hearing about? I haven't heard anything about them specifically beyond a little bit of pickiness about which USB drives work with the flash feature (smaller drives formatted to Fat32) and the launch boosting issues that seem to be a problem across all boards .
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Drunk in Space posted:I've been hearing a lot of horror stories about people getting Zen 2 to work with MSI B450 Tomahawk boards, but does anyone have any experience with the Mortar? It's available in my country and I was thinking about going with it for my new build, since most people say it's the best mATX B450 board, but I'm wondering if I should just avoid MSI altogether. I've had no problems with the Mortar. Flashed the bios a few days before assembling while waiting for thr case to come. Booted first time, ram worked fine with default xmp values at 3200mhz. Haven't really had the time to fully stress it, but the one time I did play the Forza Horizon demo for about half an hour it ran solidly.
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Stickman posted:What problems have you been hearing about? I haven't heard anything about them specifically beyond a little bit of pickiness about which USB drives work with the flash feature (smaller drives formatted to Fat32) and the launch boosting issues that seem to be a problem across all boards . There's a lot of folk on the MSI reddit that seemingly can't get the BIOS flash working at all. It's not consistent, and it could be user error, but there were enough complaints to make me nervous putting mine together.
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Party Boat posted:There's a lot of folk on the MSI reddit that seemingly can't get the BIOS flash working at all. It's not consistent, and it could be user error, but there were enough complaints to make me nervous putting mine together. For what it's worth, I think every single report in the building recommendation thread about performing a flashback on MSI boards, Tomahawks or otherwise, have been positive (including mine).
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Yeah that's the weird thing. Maybe it's a rare issue but everyone with it has posted about it on Reddit, making it seem more common than it is. Or maybe goons are just better at computer than redditors 
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The MAX motherboards should be pre-flashed to be compatible with Zen 2 as well as the increased BIOS ROM size, if you're willing to wait. There's still no official launch date, but some European stores have been taking preorders listing the 28th.
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Party Boat posted:Yeah that's the weird thing. Maybe it's a rare issue but everyone with it has posted about it on Reddit, making it seem more common than it is. Or maybe goons are just better at computer than redditors I'm chalking it down to the old adage of you tell 10 people if you have a bad experience where you tell none if you don't. For all the people that post on reddit about it, I'd wager there are an exponential amount more that have no problems.
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Yeah, most of the issues I read were on the MSI Reddit, with a lot of people being flat-out unable to get their boards to work, and most of the griping seemed squarely aimed at the Tomahawk. There's also a video someone posted there from the latest MSI livestream where they themselves actually recommend that people who bought B450s recently should return them and wait for the MAX versions instead. That's probably what I'm going to do just to be on the safe side.
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So I just got a 2700X and Asus Prime b450 plus, which I just realized came with the first release bios on it (version 0318, from 6/22/2018), and the latest update is 1608 from 7/23/2019. Since I'm not using a Gen 3 ryzen, is there any harm in updating to this most recent one? Slightly concerned about the whole bios size thing, don't understand if this board is affected or exactly what support would be dropped to make room for the newer processors. Also, assuming the latest version is ok, should I be able to do it in a single step or will I need to update to intermediate versions in separate steps? (think I saw a video where reviewer had to do this for 3000 series on some particular board).
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Unless the BIOS update specifically says that a series of CPU will no longer work after its installed (it doesn't, just 'improves system performance' with v1608) then I'd assume you're OK. Sometimes motherboards do need a "bridge BIOS" to be flashed before you can install the latest one (my X370 Taichi was like that) but that isn't terribly common and looking at the BIOS list for that mobo it doesn't appear one is listed so you shouldn't need to do that.
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It's not that big of a deal right now, either. MSi boards just lost support for a few old CPUs and the ability to use the mouse in the bios menu. I'm not sure about Asus, but I suspect it would be something similar. If Zen 3 ends up being supported, I suspect that they'll fork the bios to make room.
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PC LOAD LETTER posted:Sometimes motherboards do need a "bridge BIOS" to be flashed before you can install the latest one (my X370 Taichi was like that) but that isn't terribly common and looking at the BIOS list for that mobo it doesn't appear one is listed so you shouldn't need to do that. X470 Taichi is like that too, 2.00 is required for any later version. Mine came preinstalled with a Raven Ridge-compatible version, but I had to use a 2200G to flash it up to 3.43 for my 3700X. The 3700X passed memtest with flying colors at 3200C16 but couldn't stop bluescreening at 2133 until I updated EFI to 3.50 which came out yesterday. No issues yet after going to 3.50 so I'm cautiously optimistic.
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Cool, I used the EZ Flash 3 internet based thing(seems like a massive security issue but you know, effort, yolo, etc) and it went straight to 1607 no problem. It says that's the latest one, but close enough. So, does this PBO feature work/do anything on 2000 series at all? I still am only seeing 4Ghz max single core boost, when this thing is supposed to go to 4.3? Do I have to manually set the boost ratio to 43 or something? I'm on Linux if that matters.
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so I've got my 3600 up and running, and it definitely feels better. My plan was to wait until September and get a 3950x but I may hold out until next year's chips
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Penpal posted:so I've got my 3600 up and running, and it definitely feels better. My plan was to wait until September and get a 3950x but I may hold out until next year's chips This was what I ended up doing as well - which lead to the rest of the system being extremely overkill (I wanted a motherboard with 2.5Gbps ethernet, NZXT Kraken X72 AIO cooler, 3TB NVMe, RGB
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Mr.Radar posted:The Scottish dude is done with AMD and won't release any more (public) speculation videos: lol video removed If I never see another AdoredTV "leak" it'll be too soon
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I bricked one of my mobos by accidentally skipping one of the bridge updates. There was this giant stack of "YOU MUST INSTALL WINDOWS DRIVER UPDATE FOO AND COMBINED AMD DRIVER VERSION BAR BEFORE BLAH BLAH BLAH", and I was like "yeah yeah I'm on Linux who cares". What I didn't see was the smaller text under all the dire warnings about Windows driver combinations about how you needed to ensure the mobo was at least on BIOS v1.70 before upgrading to anything later. Oops. Microcenter was happy to collect my idiot tax.
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GRINDCORE MEGGIDO posted:What ram speeds are people running with 3 series? I'm at 3600cl15 now because that was the xmp, but I'm pretty sure odd CL numbers don't work with ryzen. So whenever I get less lazy I'll try to get it stable at cl14, maybe at 3400 or something.
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