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Subreddit pulse check: this week's subreddit is a Tale of Two Star Citizens. Star Citizen One: People who have actually touched the game. They are mostly pretty angry. It turns out everything is broken, even things that used to work. The comments section is usually half-and-half people agreeing with them, and people telling them to get hosed because it's alphaaaaaaaa forever. Should Chris Roberts step down? Mobiglass is bad and it should feel bad. QT spooling is still broken after several years. The Black Market sucks and doesn't actually reward criminal gameplay None of the persistent poo poo works despite multiple "Roadmap" features that say it's implemented. CIG can't even keep the roadmap up to date Star Citizen Two: The die hard fanatics. The starry eyed dreamers, the ones who either don't play the game or play it mostly to take extremely over-produced screenshots. Among this crowd, everything is going great! Except for all the whining. Gosh, what are all these people complaining about? Don't they know that every feature they hate is just Tier 0, and you aren't allowed to have opinions until the product is finished even though you paid for it years ago? Patch +1 is definitely the Jesus Patch this time, you guys! (lol the QOL features mentioned are mostly art assets again) Redditor is absolutely blown away that the menu is rendered in real 3D. Never been done before! Holy poo poo the big spaceship that costs 900 dollars had a hangar screenshot leaked, everyone get in here! (The hangar doesn't work) It was actually really hard to find much for SC2. Other than screenshot posts, there's very little positivity on the sub right now. It seems like the quarterly release cycle is really hurting Citizen confidence in the team. Almost like they can't quite suppress the memories and get hyped for the end-of-year patch like they've done in years past when the next big failure is just around the corner. Most of the sub is reduced to apologia at this point, tirelessly coming up for new excuses about why every aspect of the game has to suck right now, god it's like you've never watched a team fail at development before. It's completely normal to do it the wrong way four or five times in a row and then get it right- we're just guessing on that last part because it hasn't happened yet, but IT WILL! Very soon! You'll see!
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Zazz Razzamatazz posted:Do they think the Well, the cost can rise if you get into avatar wars.
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Jul 26, 2019 18:43
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Based on the last few sub temperature checks: the cycle seems to be pretty similar to the old annual cycles, but much more compacted. Patch comes out, majorly disappoints, lots and lots of anger, the most extreme Citizens react and suppress it, shunning the non believers and the reduced fanbase gradually builds hype again for next patch. I think this worked in the past because Citizens have pretty small goldfish memories, but they seem to be struggling to get hype when they can watch features being shaved off in real time, and the most recent disaster is only weeks behind them. The parts of the project that they used to cling to for that sense of progress, the promise and far-off "Dream" videos, have largely been cut as well. The replacements which are mostly just artists creating yacht silverware settings or whatever poo poo Chris is pretending he absolutely needs this week, are just not sparking any excitement. There is not one person on the sub or off it who gives a poo poo about the 890 Jump yacht except as the newest, biggest ship. Nobody cares about the luxury stuff they keep selling. The most hype they've been able to get in the last few months was the missile truck, and that died faster than Ben's post-CIG career. CIG really has been more transparent this year, and it appears to be an extremely bad thing for fan morale.
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Jul 26, 2019 18:50
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Sarsapariller posted:Based on the last few sub temperature checks: the cycle seems to be pretty similar to the old annual cycles, but much more compacted. Careful or you'll summon Prester Jane to word salad the thread to death.
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Jul 26, 2019 18:53
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This is by design, crime doesn't pay and winners don't do drugs. Very realistic game! The most realisms! Edit: quote:Have you ever considered that a level 5 crime stat means you're a piece of (in lore) poo poo that no-one wants to be seen doing business with? quote:I get why you don’t like this however the system makes sense. Lol these guys are literally saying the thing I just said as a joke Rotten Red Rod fucked around with this message at 18:59 on Jul 26, 2019 |
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Jul 26, 2019 18:57
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Rotten Red Rod posted:Lol these guys are literally saying the thing I just said as a joke Yeah, they're not very nuanced. The problem with the 'crime' badge is that the rewards have to outstrip the malus provided by the rating in the first place, and given that most societies tend to frown on criminal behavior is makes the modelling weird as gently caress. Make everyone have a record. Crimes are added to the record. To get hold of that record, you have to do some skill-based poo poo to get hold of it, but it's fixed in time. Crimes can be expunged from the record, but the person with the record isn't updated. If you attack someone with a record and win, bully for you. If the record is out of date and you attack someone, well done, you just crimed yourself. At no point is anyone running around with a stripey t-shirt, but there's enough uncertainty to make the thing slightly more risky to make assumptions either way. The problem is that they're looking at other games to figure a way forward rather than coming up with anything new, possibly due to the fact that they're still building companies or some poo poo.
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Jul 26, 2019 19:28
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I think next patch will fix all this mess. Never fear.
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Jul 26, 2019 19:46
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They should also rebrand their manufacturer of pirate ships... that poo poo doesn't make any sense at all. Of course, that would mean admitting they hosed up in the first place.
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Name one thing you like about Star Citizen. I would say the soundtrack is pretty decent, I particularly like this 2000-era trance remix of one of the OST tracks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rysXlomaHN4 Reminds me of the trance radio station in GTA3 (risefm).
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Jul 26, 2019 20:37
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his nibs posted:I don't know about you guys but I'm incandescent with rage and hatred for Star Citizen every morning for at least 2 hours before work, and then again at lunchtime after sticking pins in my Chrisbear effigy. To be fair I'm only just holding it together now as I type this message and I might erupt with anger at any second now.. arghhh 
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skeletors_condom posted:Name one thing you like about Star Citizen. The original soundtrack is ace. IcarusUpHigh fucked around with this message at 21:08 on Jul 26, 2019 |
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Jul 26, 2019 21:04
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This is a great piece of music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEbIyy23_kQ&t=148s I was so bummed it's wasted on this project. First Light and the Star Citizen theme tune are great, there's some amazing tracks.
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Jul 26, 2019 21:06
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Sarsapariller posted:which are mostly just artists creating yacht silverware It becomes more and more like SoTA with every passing month.
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Jul 26, 2019 21:08
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Disco's relationship with his community is so weird. I guess I'm just spoiled by warframe but imagine any other community manager attacking people for making summaries of his long winded fluff videos.
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Jul 26, 2019 21:10
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Agony Aunt posted:It becomes more and more like SoTA with every passing month. https://imgur.com/a/vTCvfeJ
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Jul 26, 2019 21:11
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This is my favourite bit of the game: 
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Jul 26, 2019 21:16
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Indeed. Interesting titles on those books "We are all for sale" Just think of all the man hours that went into those things as well that will only be enjoyable by a small percentage of players, as opposed to assets that maybe could be experienced by all. Seems to me that you do this sort of luxury stuff after a game is at least released.
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Jul 26, 2019 21:19
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Sarsapariller posted:Disco's relationship with his community is so weird. I guess I'm just spoiled by warframe but imagine any other community manager attacking people for making summaries of his long winded fluff videos. Warframes community manager is friends with a youtuber who only makes videos about how much the game sucks.* *In the best possible way.
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Jul 26, 2019 21:21
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Agony Aunt posted:Indeed. Whatever, man. Did you see the texturing on those towels? Those are the kind of luxury items that I absolutely demand in my 900 dollar spaceships in a game about freewheeling mercenary pirates.
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Jul 26, 2019 21:32
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Rocks, for dinner, again!?
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Jul 26, 2019 21:34
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 I heard that $900 collectible will have 67 rooms! And nothing to do in any of them.
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Jul 26, 2019 21:39
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Agony Aunt posted:Well, the cost can rise if you get into avatar wars. Live by the beard, die by the beard.
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skeletors_condom posted:Name one thing you like about Star Citizen. I'd throw my vote at the music too. Too good for this game anyway.
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Jul 26, 2019 21:48
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So weird, his motivation is to prove detractors wrong. Not motivated by something he's interested in.
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Jul 26, 2019 21:59
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Agony Aunt posted:It becomes more and more like SoTA with every passing month. Except instead of being whatever the team can find on asset sites, it's whatever Chris liked from his latest super-luxury vacation.
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Jul 26, 2019 22:19
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star citizens deserve this, they've earned it
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rePool posted:So weird, his motivation is to prove detractors wrong. Not motivated by something he's interested in. Hyper-defensive is probably the default mode for everyone working with CIG because in any given moment someone will blame you for what's hosed up and you need to be ready to lay that blame on someone or somewhere else. He could live in absolute terror of someone asking him why he can't abridge his stuff and save everyone some money because some dude can do a write-up of it all for free, and I wouldn't be shocked.
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So what's the deal with the hanger and the 890? Is it a new hanger because the size of the ship or what?
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ewe2 posted:
I know,going through a serious illness is one thing,having to constantly explain what happened to everyone who doesn't know is another thing and entirely exhausting within itself. Don't stop making jokes though,if i hadn't have pulled people legs once or twice and took the piss i'd have felt even worse.
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Gosts posted:oh my god are those rocks?? are those supposed to be tasteful rocks everywhere?? they're all the same rock. every rock is the same rock. They look like clams maybe?? I literally thought they were clams at first, like it's a big seafood buffet. And I was looking at other objects and trying to interpret them like they were food, but they aren't.
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Agony Aunt posted:Interesting titles on those books "We are all for sale" Such an accurate title he needed 4 copies just to drive the point home.
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  Nothing's happened, and Sq42 is still in Quarter 2  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFvsCStxQx0 Latest video has been received well....  
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These are extremely easy to follow and understand and are definite proof the game is real and coming along fine, and not at all complete and utter obfuscation that has no bearing on the actual state of the project. Charts are proof. E.L.E.? More like Q.E.D.
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Colostomy Bag posted:So what's the deal with the hanger and the 890? Is it a new hanger because the size of the ship or what? The hanger is in the ship- it's big enough that it has a garage in it, and you're supposed to be able to land ships in it and spawn them and launch them and all that. CIG can't get that working from totally stationary landing pads. Now they're pretending they're about to release a player-controlled ship with a functioning version. They keep showing off screenshots and loving panoramas of it- but they never, ever show it in action. You get one guess why.
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Holy gently caress. I just had a thought. I'm just gonna put it out there and you guys let me know what you think. "I don't think Chris Roberts knows what he is doing" There, I've said it. So help me God.
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Scruffpuff posted:These are extremely easy to follow and understand and are definite proof the game is real and coming along fine, and not at all complete and utter obfuscation that has no bearing on the actual state of the project.
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Sindai posted:big fan of how the rate of progress on all those S42 missions quadruples from this moment on "What are 'missions' anyway?" - Chris Roberts three weeks after the release of Squadron 42
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Sarsapariller posted:The hanger is in the ship- it's big enough that it has a garage in it, and you're supposed to be able to land ships in it and spawn them and launch them and all that.  
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