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gey muckle mowser
Aug 5, 2003

Do you know anything about...
witches?



Buglord
I'm pretty sure I read that at some point The Royal Tennenbaums was the #1 best seller and several other Wes Anderson films were near the top too.

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The Cameo
Jan 20, 2005


I would imagine Fear and Loathing is probably the best selling disc Criterion’s ever produced.

edit: everything Wes made after Rushmore was Criterion-only if I’m not mistaken because the Touchstone-Criterion deal was post-Rushmore, pre-Tenenbaums. There was a standard Rushmore release and I don’t even know when Bottle Rocket hit DVD between its release and the eventual Criterion it did get.

The Cameo fucked around with this message at 16:19 on Jul 26, 2019

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

The Cameo posted:

I would imagine Fear and Loathing is probably the best selling disc Criterion’s ever produced.

College stoners were (and probably still are) definitely a huge part of their demographic

Detective No. 27
Jun 7, 2006

Godzilla is supposed to be a perpetual seller.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

The Cameo posted:

I would imagine Fear and Loathing is probably the best selling disc Criterion’s ever produced.

edit: everything Wes made after Rushmore was Criterion-only if I’m not mistaken because the Touchstone-Criterion deal was post-Rushmore, pre-Tenenbaums. There was a standard Rushmore release and I don’t even know when Bottle Rocket hit DVD between its release and the eventual Criterion it did get.

For whatever reason they never did Grand Budapest Hotel. I've always assumed that was because it got so much mainstream attention but maybe there's a behind the scenes business reason for it.

Detective No. 27
Jun 7, 2006

The Benjamin Button Criterion release is weird as hell.

wa27
Jan 15, 2007

You can find Life Aquatic and Royal Tennenbaums DVDs at thrift stores. They have to be some of the most common Criterions out there.

ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July

Basebf555 posted:

For whatever reason they never did Grand Budapest Hotel. I've always assumed that was because it got so much mainstream attention but maybe there's a behind the scenes business reason for it.

And Moonrise Kingdom had a non-Criterion release before it came out on Criterion.

The Cameo
Jan 20, 2005


Basebf555 posted:

For whatever reason they never did Grand Budapest Hotel. I've always assumed that was because it got so much mainstream attention but maybe there's a behind the scenes business reason for it.

It'll probably get one in due time, there might be a deal with Fox that said "you can release these Wes films _ years after our first home release"

For example

ComradeCosmobot posted:

And Moonrise Kingdom had a non-Criterion release before it came out on Criterion.

Which I forgot about; Fantastic Mr. Fox was the same way. So there's definitely an agreement between the two companies; I do wonder if the Disney ownership throws a wrench into things, though.

edit: if I'm not mistaken, when Wes signs a multi-picture deal with a studio, he actually does have a clause about getting a Criterion release in there, like it's a part of his rider.

The Cameo fucked around with this message at 17:00 on Jul 26, 2019

Dr.Caligari
May 5, 2005

"Here's a big, beautiful avatar for someone"
Someone mentioned anime ... Does anime not have a dedicated boutique label? I figure with the success of Criterion , and even Scream Factory and places like Vinegar Syndrome, a fancy anime distributor releasing important and obscure titles would be like printing money

long-ass nips Diane
Dec 13, 2010

Breathe.

Dr.Caligari posted:

Someone mentioned anime ... Does anime not have a dedicated boutique label? I figure with the success of Criterion , and even Scream Factory and places like Vinegar Syndrome, a fancy anime distributor releasing important and obscure titles would be like printing money

Not really, no, which is why you get the highs and lows of something like Netflix licensing Evangelion so it can be easily seen in the US for the first time in forever.

You have places like Kodansha doing boutique editions of manga but nothing really equivalent for anime.

Zogo
Jul 29, 2003

Maxwell Lord posted:

Toho's Showa kaiju movies really are one of those examples of a time when a studio had a lot of good creative people and a commercially successful formula, but also allowed enough freedom within that formula for genuinely interesting stuff to happen.

Yea, compared to the Bond series the Godzilla series goes in all kinds of directions. Bond never had a son. Bond never dies etc.

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Zogo posted:

Yea, compared to the Bond series the Godzilla series goes in all kinds of directions. Bond never had a son. Bond never dies etc.

no Mecha Bond

Detective No. 27
Jun 7, 2006

Zogo posted:

Yea, compared to the Bond series the Godzilla series goes in all kinds of directions. Bond never had a son. Bond never dies etc.

Clearly you've never seen the original Casino Royale or Never Say Never Again.

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

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Gripweed posted:

no Mecha Bond

OK, I feel dumb

Arcella
Dec 16, 2013

Shiny and Chrome
OK what the gently caress

I Before E
Jul 2, 2012

Gripweed posted:

OK, I feel dumb



This feels like a joke

Zogo
Jul 29, 2003

Detective No. 27 posted:

Clearly you've never seen the original Casino Royale or Never Say Never Again.

I've seen the 1955 and 1967 Casino Royale's.

I always thought it'd be good if they gave the lead actors an explicit death scene when the lawyers/company decided the actor had had a long enough run. Adding a little more realism.

Detective No. 27
Jun 7, 2006

Just give him a regeneration scene already.

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.

Gripweed posted:

OK, I feel dumb



I would really like to live in whatever alternate universe was gifted with both Telly Savalas Bond and 5 Dalton movies.

I was going to hold off until the November sale, but I couldn’t help myself so I picked up Do The Right Thing, True Stories, Slacker, Golden Age of Television, and Samurai Rebellion.

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

me @ ur posts


Fun Shoe

Arcella posted:

OK what the gently caress



The name's Baby, Who Loves Ya Baby.

Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

Allegedly, the people running Criterion are simply not that interested in animation for whatever reason. Though, there's not likely much that is available to license. Fantastic Planet is Argos Films and Watership Down is Euro-London Films, both who have licensed quite many titles.

We're not going to see anything from the major studios (even if Fantasia would be a dream release if Criterion got to handle it), but here's some possibilities...

The Tale of the Fox/Starewicz short films - I don't know who owns the feature, but Milestone has the shorts and hasn't really done anything with them since a late 90s DVD. I had actually expected The Tale of the Fox to be added as a bonus feature on Fantastic Mr. Fox, but it's still MIA.

The King and the Mockingbird (Le roi et l'oiseau)- Paul Grimault's animated feature (begun in the 1950s) recently had a theatrical re-release through Rialto. Owned by StudioCanal, so if it doesn't come from Criterion, maybe Shout! Factory because it's one of Hayao Miyazaki's favorite films and the one that inspired him to be an animator when he saw one of the 1950s cuts. The French Blu-ray apparently has tons of supplements.

Fritz the Cat - One of the few animated features owned by MGM, has been conspicuously absent on Blu-ray despite nearly anything in the MGM library getting licensed these days. I can see it being a good pick for Criterion because of its place in history and the fact Shout! Factory probably doesn't want to deal with an X-rated film.

Norman McLaren films - Some of his short films have popped up on Filmstruck and The Criterion Channel lately. There was a great box set on DVD in the 2000s, but it's been OOP for almost 15 years. This would be a great companion to the Brakhage set, especially since McLaren's work is so much fun. For that matter, a set of Len Lye films would be nice - I had to import a New Zealand DVD for those.

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Nov 8, 2018

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I was serious about Angel's Egg, that is 100% up Criterion's alley


or, for that matter, Dallos. Mamoru Oshii's second feature length production, his first not based on an existing work, literally the first direct-to-video animation ever released. It literally invented OVAs. That alone makes it one of the most important landmarks in animation history

Gripweed fucked around with this message at 04:34 on Jul 27, 2019

Detective No. 27
Jun 7, 2006

The 5555 spine I alluded to was Interstella 5555. I'd like to thank no one for guessing.

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.

Egbert Souse posted:

Allegedly, the people running Criterion are simply not that interested in animation for whatever reason. Though, there's not likely much that is available to license. Fantastic Planet is Argos Films and Watership Down is Euro-London Films, both who have licensed quite many titles.

We're not going to see anything from the major studios (even if Fantasia would be a dream release if Criterion got to handle it), but here's some possibilities...

The Tale of the Fox/Starewicz short films - I don't know who owns the feature, but Milestone has the shorts and hasn't really done anything with them since a late 90s DVD. I had actually expected The Tale of the Fox to be added as a bonus feature on Fantastic Mr. Fox, but it's still MIA.

The King and the Mockingbird (Le roi et l'oiseau)- Paul Grimault's animated feature (begun in the 1950s) recently had a theatrical re-release through Rialto. Owned by StudioCanal, so if it doesn't come from Criterion, maybe Shout! Factory because it's one of Hayao Miyazaki's favorite films and the one that inspired him to be an animator when he saw one of the 1950s cuts. The French Blu-ray apparently has tons of supplements.

Fritz the Cat - One of the few animated features owned by MGM, has been conspicuously absent on Blu-ray despite nearly anything in the MGM library getting licensed these days. I can see it being a good pick for Criterion because of its place in history and the fact Shout! Factory probably doesn't want to deal with an X-rated film.

Norman McLaren films - Some of his short films have popped up on Filmstruck and The Criterion Channel lately. There was a great box set on DVD in the 2000s, but it's been OOP for almost 15 years. This would be a great companion to the Brakhage set, especially since McLaren's work is so much fun. For that matter, a set of Len Lye films would be nice - I had to import a New Zealand DVD for those.

I always thought Criterion would be a good fit for Bill Plympton’s stuff, but Shout just recently announced they’d acquired it all.

BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



Detective No. 27 posted:

I know a perfect anime film for spine 5555.

:swoon:

Cemetry Gator
Apr 3, 2007

Do you find something comical about my appearance when I'm driving my automobile?

Gripweed posted:

I was serious about Angel's Egg, that is 100% up Criterion's alley


or, for that matter, Dallos. Mamoru Oshii's second feature length production, his first not based on an existing work, literally the first direct-to-video animation ever released. It literally invented OVAs. That alone makes it one of the most important landmarks in animation history

As far as I know, Dallos is licensed by Discotek media.

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

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Cemetry Gator posted:

As far as I know, Dallos is licensed by Discotek media.

yeah but they haven't done a bluray release of it so Criterion should take the license from them

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Cemetry Gator posted:

As far as I know, Dallos is licensed by Discotek media.

No reason they couldn't work together on something, though.

Blast Fantasto
Sep 18, 2007

USAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
Finally got around to watching the Magnificent Ambersons blu ray I bought during last year's winter sale. What a beautiful movie occasionally interrupted by significantly less beautiful scenes clearly shot by someone else.

ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July

Egbert Souse posted:

Allegedly, the people running Criterion are simply not that interested in animation for whatever reason. Though, there's not likely much that is available to license. Fantastic Planet is Argos Films and Watership Down is Euro-London Films, both who have licensed quite many titles.

We're not going to see anything from the major studios (even if Fantasia would be a dream release if Criterion got to handle it), but here's some possibilities...

The Tale of the Fox/Starewicz short films - I don't know who owns the feature, but Milestone has the shorts and hasn't really done anything with them since a late 90s DVD. I had actually expected The Tale of the Fox to be added as a bonus feature on Fantastic Mr. Fox, but it's still MIA.

The King and the Mockingbird (Le roi et l'oiseau)- Paul Grimault's animated feature (begun in the 1950s) recently had a theatrical re-release through Rialto. Owned by StudioCanal, so if it doesn't come from Criterion, maybe Shout! Factory because it's one of Hayao Miyazaki's favorite films and the one that inspired him to be an animator when he saw one of the 1950s cuts. The French Blu-ray apparently has tons of supplements.

Fritz the Cat - One of the few animated features owned by MGM, has been conspicuously absent on Blu-ray despite nearly anything in the MGM library getting licensed these days. I can see it being a good pick for Criterion because of its place in history and the fact Shout! Factory probably doesn't want to deal with an X-rated film.

Norman McLaren films - Some of his short films have popped up on Filmstruck and The Criterion Channel lately. There was a great box set on DVD in the 2000s, but it's been OOP for almost 15 years. This would be a great companion to the Brakhage set, especially since McLaren's work is so much fun. For that matter, a set of Len Lye films would be nice - I had to import a New Zealand DVD for those.

I’d add Yuri Norshtein as one of the few creator sets I could see Criterion doing provided the Films by Jove licensing issue has truly been put to bed.

One of the most critically famous animators of all time, but has never seen a serious US release on DVD. And apparently there’s a Blu-Ray edition of Hedgehog in the Fog and other Norshtein stuff in Japan so the master may already exist, ripe for the picking.

Unmature
May 9, 2008
The stunt documentary directed by Jackie Chan on the Police Story blu ray is wild

Samuel Clemens
Oct 4, 2013

I think we should call the Avengers.

Godzilla vs. Megalon is the pinnacle of cinema. :colbert:

The Cameo posted:

Is it the first movie to be an MST3K episode AND Criterion release?

That makes me hopeful we'll one day see a Danger: Diabolik Criterion release.

The Kins
Oct 2, 2004

gey muckle mowser posted:

they released Akira a long time ago on laserdisc, it would be great to get a re-release of that
This isn't via Criterion, but a 4k HDR-transfer remaster of Akira was announced earlier this month. It'll be out in Japan next April, with a western release sometime later.

Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

Blast Fantasto posted:

Finally got around to watching the Magnificent Ambersons blu ray I bought during last year's winter sale. What a beautiful movie occasionally interrupted by significantly less beautiful scenes clearly shot by someone else.

All of Criterion's Welles releases are essential, but the content on Ambersons is just flat-out amazing between the piece on the cinematography, the Joseph McBride interview, and the Cavett episode. And the 4K restoration is gorgeous. Criterion does herculean work on restorations, but it's a collaboration with WB's Motion Picture Imaging, who constantly works miracles on films.

Unmature posted:

The stunt documentary directed by Jackie Chan on the Police Story blu ray is wild

I just watched Police Story 2 last night and it was just as fun as the first. Chan has so much screen charisma and his stunts are great, but he really knows how to direct the hell out of a film. Before this release, I assumed he was "just" an actor.

The_Rob
Feb 1, 2007

Blah blah blah blah!!

Samuel Clemens posted:

Godzilla vs. Megalon is the pinnacle of cinema. :colbert:



Legit the man reason I’m excited for the Godzilla box set is so I can get some HD clarity when my man Jet Jaguar comes out.

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.

The_Rob posted:

Legit the man reason I’m excited for the Godzilla box set is so I can get some HD clarity when my man Jet Jaguar comes out.

I bought the Kraken blu-ray of that lovely movie just for the end credits song

BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



Egbert Souse posted:

I just watched Police Story 2 last night and it was just as fun as the first. Chan has so much screen charisma and his stunts are great, but he really knows how to direct the hell out of a film. Before this release, I assumed he was "just" an actor.

I love PS and PS2, and they are both examples of incredible feats of will and dedication, but I prefer Police Story 3 as a film to both of them and ultimately think it made sense for Chan to step away from narrative direction and focus on stuntwork instead.

Zogo
Jul 29, 2003

Samuel Clemens posted:

Godzilla vs. Megalon is the pinnacle of cinema. :colbert:

I had a hope that Emperor Antonio of Seatopia would be featured on the cover considering he gives the greatest speech in the entire series:

"My people...Today, Seatopia goes to war. After three million years of peace, we finally have to fight. We do not want to make war, but the people of earth leave us no choice. With their nuclear tests, they've already destroyed a third of our country.

We must fight for the sake of Seatopia! We will give the earth people a taste of their own medicine. But now, Seatopia goes to war for the sake of peace! For the sake of Seatopia!

Megalon! Megalon! Wake up, Megalon! Rise to the surface of the earth! Destroy all of man! In the name of peace, the honor and sake of Seatopia! Go, Megalon!"

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GrandpaPants
Feb 13, 2006


Free to roam the heavens in man's noble quest to investigate the weirdness of the universe!

Egbert Souse posted:

We're not going to see anything from the major studios (even if Fantasia would be a dream release if Criterion got to handle it), but here's some possibilities.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, give me a Satoshi Kon box set. I have no idea why it's so difficult to find his work in blu ray (besides Paprika weirdly enough), but just gimme Tokyo Godfathers, Millennium Actress, and Perfect Blue and I'll double dip on Paprika.

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