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Sydney Bottocks posted:Who the hell is he defending those belts against, is what I want to know People with their own replica
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Sydney Bottocks posted:Who the hell is he defending those belts against, is what I want to know his own insecurities. I have a buddy who collects belts. It keeps him out of trouble. He's got the Impact Grand Championship, which is just too funny to hold.
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Someone real mad about NXT:quote:Don't listen to these people, they obviously don't watch the weekly show only Takeovers. Takeovers have great matches but it's always the same 10 people and because they're scared to push anybody who won't get 5* from Meltzer, feuds get dragged out way too long and the booking becomes utterly nonsensical. Note: This guy is a Lacey Evans superfan, and thinks she got shafted while in NXT. 
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Jul 26, 2019 18:58
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lmao he keeps calling them PPVs. None of the NXT shows were actually carried on PPV carriers IIRC.
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Eh, it's kind of become the industry standard when referring to "supercards".
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He’s not wrong about main event feuds being dragged out for loving ever, it’s the worst part of NXT
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Yeah the first two paragraphs are completely correct, he just didn't stop there while he was ahead
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He's kinda correct in that NXT isn't really developmental either, it's more of uncle Paul's private indie promotion.
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coconono posted:his own insecurities. I’d assume the kind of trouble a TNA bet collector would get up to would be of the “mailing Dixie Carter vials of his blood and hair” variety
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Yeah that dude is bang on at the start. Overunning their main events turned Gargano/Ciampa from the best storyline in the history of NXT into. I dunno, a bad one. It was bad. They did it too much.
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DarkstarIV posted:Someone real mad about NXT: I'm definitely not just screaming into the ether that predictability isn't always a bad thing and often the predictable booking decision is also the right one to make. The Russo era of constant nonsensical swerves and more interest than surprises than it's making sense is a cancer on US wrestling fandom to this day.
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I touched the poop and challenged the belt guy to a fight
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MJeff posted:Yeah that dude is bang on at the start. Overunning their main events turned Gargano/Ciampa from the best storyline in the history of NXT into. I think it would have ended up coming off well if they'd been able to stick the landing but lol Vince.
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Rarity posted:I think it would have ended up coming off well if they'd been able to stick the landing but lol Vince. I guess, but Johnny slipping on a banana peel for pretty much a year straight just tuned me out of the whole thing. Also Black never main evented a takeover as champ and ended his reign on TV. That was messed up.
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Jul 26, 2019 23:24
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forkboy84 posted:I'm definitely not just screaming into the ether that predictability isn't always a bad thing and often the predictable booking decision is also the right one to make. The Russo era of constant nonsensical swerves and more interest than surprises than it's making sense is a cancer on US wrestling fandom to this day. Yes, but the WWE style of 'run the title match 3-4 shows in a row, even if the champion won clean the first time' is bad.
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Rarity posted:I think it would have ended up coming off well if they'd been able to stick the landing but lol Vince. I mean if it ended strong it would have been better but it still would have involved several months of Johnny Gargano as the biggest loser imaginable. A lot of the feud had pretty big issues I feel.
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SyntheticPolygon posted:I mean if it ended strong it would have been better but it still would have involved several months of Johnny Gargano as the biggest loser imaginable. A lot of the feud had pretty big issues I feel. I liked the Johnny as loser stuff cause it was what informed his heel turn and I loved heel Johnny 
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Breitbart Is Rightbart posted:Kenny Omega hasn't made a poo poo-ton of money since leaving NJPW guys.
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Jul 26, 2019 23:45
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Kenny Omega has wrestled three matches, one of them great and a first time match (vs, CIMA), and the rate at which he will wrestling matches will never increase.
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karmicknight posted:Kenny Omega has wrestled three matches, one of them great and a first time match (vs, CIMA), and the rate at which he will wrestling matches will never increase. Plus one of them was a novelty theme show connected to a gaming tournament where he dressed up as a Street Fighter, so it's at least memorable for that
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I'll never understand when people complain that NXT isn't a true developmental anymore. Like would they rather watch green as grass PC trainees stumble their way through a match?
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JT Smiley posted:I'll never understand when people complain that NXT isn't a true developmental anymore. Like would they rather watch green as grass PC trainees stumble their way through a match? NXT actually would be better as true training ground for wrestlers needing to learn and not a dumping place for indy talent WWE doesn't want in NJPW/AEW but doesn't want them on the main roster making main roster money. Not to mention the fact NXT doesn't really make money and hasn't actually built a main roster star
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SatoshiMiwa posted:NXT actually would be better as true training ground for wrestlers needing to learn and not a dumping place for indy talent WWE doesn't want in NJPW/AEW but doesn't want them on the main roster making main roster money. That last part of your statement is all because of Vince. Not because of NXT. There are plenty of talents who (or are) were in NXT that could be main event stars, but Vince goes out of his way to bury them. And I'm pretty sure if NXT was converted into a program where only green wrestlers got the spotlight, it would be much more poorly received. I mean you have Aliyah who has been there for four years and not improved at all. And then you have other mediocre to bad workers like Brennan Williams (Dio Madden), Mansoor, etc who don't deserve screentime at all.
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My counterpoint to that is that FCW was a pretty fun show a lot of the time.
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DarkstarIV posted:That last part of your statement is all because of Vince. Not because of NXT. There are plenty of talents who (or are) were in NXT that could be main event stars, but Vince goes out of his way to bury them. Yeah a lot of people come out of NXT to really good audience reactions, and then they get booked into the ground and lose that.
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"NXT doesn't make money" is something I hear a lot but never really understand, 'cause like. How is it supposed to? It's not a touring brand, to my understanding it only does the Florida loop and one or two regional tours a year and it's not on TV, so. How is it supposed to make money?
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MJeff posted:"NXT doesn't make money" is something I hear a lot but never really understand, 'cause like. How is it supposed to? It's not a touring brand, to my understanding it only does the Florida loop and one or two regional tours a year and it's not on TV, so. How is it supposed to make money? Food $200 Data $150 Rent $800 Indie darlings $3,600 Utility $150 someone who is good at the economy please help me budget this. my developmental brand is dying
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WWE havings its minor league have high match quality expectations so it can keep talent down there and not call them up and pay them main roster money is one of the more subtle mean things they've done. They also have fans wishing it too! It'd be like a bad hockey/baseball team keeping talent down in the minors so the minor league team can win cups. Makes no sense at all
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MJeff posted:"NXT doesn't make money" is something I hear a lot but never really understand, 'cause like. How is it supposed to? It's not a touring brand, to my understanding it only does the Florida loop and one or two regional tours a year and it's not on TV, so. How is it supposed to make money? It does a regional tour roughly once a month actually. That being said, the talent down in NXT has most of their travel expenses paid for (I think they just have to pay for food), and get a decent amount of time off. Most work one or two house shows a week unless they are on the national tour. Some big names are left off of the national tour from time to time in order to help greener talents learn the ropes on the Largo Loop. But yeah, NXT is meant to be a loss leader. Problem is well...Vince just makes it a money sink with no real returns to show.
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Yeah, 95% of their claimed 'success stories' could probably have gone straight to the main roster and wouldn't be any worse of as performers. I mean, sure you can listen to Trips claim that Ricochet was scared to talk before NXT, but it's not like they really let him talk IN NXT nor on Raw, so what point is he even trying to make?
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Ricochet is a terrible, terrible promo. Go look up his G1 Special in USA appearance where he challenges the Bucks to the jr tag belts, it's a real "oh my god he is just as bad as talking as he is good at flipping"
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The Cameo posted:Ricochet is a terrible, terrible promo. Go look up his G1 Special in USA appearance where he challenges the Bucks to the jr tag belts, it's a real "oh my god he is just as bad as talking as he is good at flipping" Yeah, but it's not like he's gotten better because WWE shoved a script in front of him. They just don't have him talk. Which is fine! But there's no reason to have him in NXT for the developmental reasons then. (Beyond the hard camera stuff we all joke about, but that's not actually a good reason and is arguably like learning to drift because your regular brakes on your car don't work, instead of getting them fixed - more effort for something that is only going to be more effective 20% of the time.)
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If only there was a way that we could have somebody do the talking for Ricochet while he does the wrestling. Some kind of supervisor, if you will 
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Rarity posted:If only there was a way that we could have somebody do the talking for Ricochet while he does the wrestling. Some kind of supervisor, if you will Like, you could even say that that person is managing his business affairs. Naaaaaaaaaaaaah. That's ludicrous. It's not like athletes in real sports have someone like that! Ha ha. What a wild idea.
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Bring back Max Moon to manage Ricochet.
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Rarity posted:If only there was a way that we could have somebody do the talking for Ricochet while he does the wrestling. Some kind of supervisor, if you will What like an agent, but an agent gets them thinking about representation and representation means thinking about the power of their labor, and where does that lead? Unions! Do you want unionism in the WWE Universe?
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Two Beans posted:Bring back Max Moon to manage Ricochet. I know you're joking, but Konnan doing promos for him would be great.
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