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| Joe Biden, the Inappropriate Toucher |
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18 | 1.46% |
| Bernie Sanders, the Hand Flailer |
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665 | 54.11% |
| Elizabeth Warren, the Plan Maker |
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319 | 25.96% |
| Kamala Harris, the Cop Lord |
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26 | 2.12% |
| Cory Booker, the Super Hero Wannabe |
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5 | 0.41% |
| Julian Castro, the Twin |
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5 | 0.41% |
| Kirsten Gillibrand, the Franken Killer |
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5 | 0.41% |
| Pete Buttigieg, the Troop Sociopath |
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17 | 1.38% |
| Robert Francis O'Rourke, the Fake Latino |
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3 | 0.24% |
| Jay Inslee, the Climate Alarmist |
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8 | 0.65% |
| Marianne Williamson, the Crystal Queen |
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86 | 7.00% |
| Tulsi Gabbard, the Muslim Hater |
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23 | 1.87% |
| Andrew Yang, the $1000 Fool |
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32 | 2.60% |
| Eric Swalwell, the Insurance Wife Guy |
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2 | 0.16% |
| Amy Klobuchar, the Comb Enthusiast |
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1 | 0.08% |
| Bill de Blasio, the NYPD Most Hated |
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4 | 0.33% |
| Tim Ryan, the Dope Face |
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3 | 0.24% |
| John Hickenlooper, the Also Ran |
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7 | 0.57% |
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Like, 1/10 of posts referencing violence today have made Uniriginal Name’s point, which is a good point. Some of you other guys are putting out some real mixed signals. Which is fine, or everybody needs to agree with each other, but it’s hard to blame a little lost institutionalist for being a bit confused about why everybody is always yelling at him. E: oh my god, worst snipe of my life
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Marxalot posted:Didn't want to quote a specific post because I'm more or less addressing the past page or two. So, what's the gimmick here? The gist I'm getting is that better things aren't possible, people don't want better things, the media isn't at fault for this, and nothing can be done about it for the next several decades until ~demographics~ changing will somehow nullify capital's influence on politics and the media. Like I said in an earlier post, people like KingNastidon are motivated by a personal distaste for (what they perceive to be) immaturity and stupidity on the part of the left. They think the left is immature and stupid because they exhibit stronger distaste for mainstream Democratic politicians than they believe is reasonable. They believe this distaste is unreasonable because they've grown up surrounded by a society and media who make them think the mainstream positions of the Democratic Party are fundamentally acceptable and reasonable, even if they might not be perfect. That this isn't really logically coherent is irrelevant; it's all basically driven by a gut feeling on their part that the left must be bad and/or dumb (because to acknowledge otherwise would reflect poorly on their own feelings and choices). kidkissinger posted:It's a weird thing to post in a thread where no one is going to do that anyway tbh Yeah, posts like that are basically like the sort of gaslighting where someone tries to cast someone else's feelings as being "worrying" and a mental health issue. Mukaikubo posted:Oh do kindly gently caress off. I was a state delegate for Bernie in 2016 and volunteered for him and phonebanked. I'm going to vote for him again. I'm going to volunteer for him again, because I think he's the best candidate running. Whenever I volunteer for him in real life, the other Bernie supporters I meet are generally the kindest, best people I interact with on a weekly basis. This thread, by contrast, is a cesspit of race-to-the-bottom shitposting and irony poisoning. You don't get to come in and insinuate that other people are mentally ill and might literally kill other people and then act offended when people react poorly to that.
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Jul 27, 2019 19:04
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I don't usually post here much because this entire thread and possibly entire subforum is an useless toilet bowl, and every time I break my own rule, I always regret it.
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Mukaikubo posted:Oh do kindly gently caress off. I was a state delegate for Bernie in 2016 and volunteered for him and phonebanked. I'm going to vote for him again. I'm going to volunteer for him again, because I think he's the best candidate running. Whenever I volunteer for him in real life, the other Bernie supporters I meet are generally the kindest, best people I interact with on a weekly basis. This thread, by contrast, is a cesspit of race-to-the-bottom shitposting and irony poisoning. Bernie owns, and you don't. Also Nancy Pelosi must resign.
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Jul 27, 2019 19:42
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joepinetree posted:gee, I wonder why this thread is a cesspit It's you, actually.
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Jul 27, 2019 19:50
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I've been letting white noise and shitposting and insults slide a lot, but the thread's gotten pretty bad lately, so I'm going to start cracking down as of right now. Try to rein it in a little more, and if you can't, go to the dedicated shitposting subforum and shitpost all you want there. Also, two reminders: the minimum probation length in this thread is 3 days, and the Sanders/Warren debate is 3 days away.
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Jul 27, 2019 20:08
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Jul 27, 2019 20:10
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Are insults against the rules now?
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Jul 27, 2019 20:57
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I aked three months ago if US dem fuckheads are still not wanting to select Bernie and everyone was like "if he's still polling below Biden in August I'll be worried", so, is he? I have the feeling he is, but I genuinely dunno. I wouldn't even mind too much if America didn't have such an outsize influence on the rest of us humans.
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Jul 27, 2019 21:45
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I still feel Biden in the lead is rigged or misunderstood polling.
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Jul 27, 2019 21:53
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Unoriginal Name posted:Are insults against the rules now? No more so than anywhere else in D&D. If you make a good and content-rich post and then call someone an rear end in a top hat at the end, I probably won't care. If the sole content of your post is poo poo-slinging and insults, you're just causing trouble and starting slapfights.
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Jul 27, 2019 22:19
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Gatts posted:I still feel Biden in the lead is rigged or misunderstood polling. he's got a lot of name recognition and sort of an incumbent advantage that lead has been steadily dropping though
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Jul 27, 2019 22:26
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Polls are meaningless. Especially with this many candidates. What matters is who can get their voters out to vote. And that's gonna be Bernie.
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Jul 27, 2019 22:39
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Private Speech posted:I aked three months ago if US dem fuckheads are still not wanting to select Bernie and everyone was like "if he's still polling below Biden in August I'll be worried", so, is he? I thought we agreed that it wasn't time to panic until Biden was king poo poo in November. It takes more than one public rear end kicking to take out Biden. Not even he's bad enough to kill himself in one go.
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Jul 27, 2019 23:09
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Gripweed posted:Polls are meaningless. Especially with this many candidates. What matters is who can get their voters out to vote. And that's gonna be Bernie. Polls clearly matter since David Sirota will cherrypick and boost whatever results are favorable to Bernie.
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Jul 27, 2019 23:11
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LinYutang posted:Polls clearly matter since David Sirota will cherrypick and boost whatever results are favorable to Bernie. You want to boost anything positive about your candidate. Whether or not they're meaningful doesn't matter
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Jul 27, 2019 23:14
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David Sirota is a g*ddamn rear end in a top hat. I know I'm hard on Bernie stans, but Sirota deserves it all and more.
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Jul 27, 2019 23:22
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Jul 27, 2019 23:23
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Main Paineframe posted:Also, two reminders: the minimum probation length in this thread is 3 days, and the Sanders/Warren debate is 3 days away. Is that actually true? Seems like some people only get 6hr probes and others get longer.
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Jul 28, 2019 00:06
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I haven't seen any sixers in this thread that didn't get upgraded to 3+ days once an admin was available
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Jul 28, 2019 00:09
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VitalSigns posted:I haven't seen any sixers in this thread that didn't get upgraded to 3+ days once an admin was available This is indeed the limiting factor. There are long punishments presently queued for this thread, but until an admin arrives they are but tears in the rain.
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Jul 28, 2019 00:10
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Lightning Knight posted:This is indeed the limiting factor. There are long punishments presently queued for this thread, but until an admin arrives they are but tears in the rain. Ah word, just seemed weird since FAU has already hit the longer hammer on more recent posts but there are older posts that didn't get hit.
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Jul 28, 2019 00:12
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Trabisnikof posted:Ah word, just seemed weird since FAU has already hit the longer hammer on more recent posts but there are older posts that didn't get hit. At the risk of chasing this derail, it depends on the user. Admins can hit approve all or approve on an individual basis for stuff. There’s also user error - for example, MP queued a month punishment at my request for today for something I meant to queue last night but forgot. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Jul 28, 2019 00:14
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Forum becomes very quite as all queued probations are initiated simultaneously. Calibanibal, the only soul to escape the massacre, posts at themselves for three days.
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Jul 28, 2019 00:30
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Party Plane Jones posted:like randi I’m putting a moratorium on They’re minerals! Jesus Christ, Marianne.
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Jul 28, 2019 00:37
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Berke Negri posted:he's got a lot of name recognition and sort of an incumbent advantage
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Jul 28, 2019 00:38
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FlamingLiberal posted:Yes and during the next debate it’s probably going to drop more since he will be piled on again I actually don’t agree with this, I think people will set their expectations low and he’ll skate by. We’ve seen this in the past with people like Romney and Trump who got free rides in their later debates because people no longer expected much of them.
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Jul 28, 2019 00:53
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Lightning Knight posted:I actually don’t agree with this, I think people will set their expectations low and he’ll skate by. We’ve seen this in the past with people like Romney and Trump who got free rides in their later debates because people no longer expected much of them. agreed, he's already set things badly with his 'NO MORE MR NICE GUY' poo poo, so everyone's already expecting grandpa joe to be a feisty idiot.
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Jul 28, 2019 00:57
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Lightning Knight posted:I actually don’t agree with this, I think people will set their expectations low and he’ll skate by. We’ve seen this in the past with people like Romney and Trump who got free rides in their later debates because people no longer expected much of them.
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FlamingLiberal posted:It’s incredibly early though, this is only the 2nd debate. The field is also enormous so there is a high probability that candidates will go after who is currently leading (Biden) to get attention. Oh for sure. To clarify I think Biden will lose support but probably won’t have another spectacular flame out like debate 1. Probably more slow bleed. On the other hand maybe he’ll prove me wrong and say a racial slur on stage. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Jul 28, 2019 01:04
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Lightning Knight posted:I actually don’t agree with this, I think people will set their expectations low and he’ll skate by. We’ve seen this in the past with people like Romney and Trump who got free rides in their later debates because people no longer expected much of them. plus as the party's de facto pick for the time being the goal is papering over his obvious shortcomings and running out the clock on the primary. it remains to be seen how much will is left for that given it's not quite the same coronation scenario 2016 was and there's multiple acceptable alternatives
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Lightning Knight posted:I actually don’t agree with this, I think people will set their expectations low and he’ll skate by. We’ve seen this in the past with people like Romney and Trump who got free rides in their later debates because people no longer expected much of them. have you considered the fact that biden is so loving stupid that he decided to defend his record on busing even when given an out by his opponent in 20 goddamn 19 the dude is going to find the one argument that will somehow alienate every single member of the entire political spectrum and then rant endlessly about it. Like, say: "The president is a dirty draft dodger so we should reintroduce the draft so that young american men can learn some civic pride!"
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Lightning Knight posted:Oh for sure. To clarify I think Biden will lose support but probably won’t have another spectacular flame out like debate 1. Probably more slow bleed. I genuinely hope he drops a slur so old timey nobody even realizes knows who it's referring to
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A big flaming stink posted:have you considered the fact that biden is so loving stupid that he decided to defend his record on busing even when given an out by his opponent in 20 goddamn 19
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Jul 28, 2019 01:18
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Lightning Knight posted:Oh for sure. To clarify I think Biden will lose support but probably won’t have another spectacular flame out like debate 1. Probably more slow bleed. i dunno about that remember, he promised not to be nice to kamala this time
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sexpig by night posted:agreed, he's already set things badly with his 'NO MORE MR NICE GUY' poo poo, so everyone's already expecting grandpa joe to be a feisty idiot. No, I think even most of the people who watch debates aren't politics obsessed enough to have taken notice of that weird little story. And the ones who did are probably like, "oh boy, uncle Biden gonna give the sass like during his debate with Paul Ryan!"
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Condiv posted:i dunno about that Yeah, I suspect he'll telegraph a really clumsy attack on her, trip over his own feet, and suffer for it. All while the Booker and the various no-hopers pigpile him in attempts to get The One Zinger of the night.
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Jul 28, 2019 02:46
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Main Paineframe posted:I've been letting white noise and shitposting and insults slide a lot, but the thread's gotten pretty bad lately, so I'm going to start cracking down as of right now. Try to rein it in a little more, and if you can't, go to the dedicated shitposting subforum and shitpost all you want there. Sanders/Warren debate. Oh please. They are going to go so easy on each other. He needs to point out how piss poor her solutions are.
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Judakel posted:Sanders/Warren debate. Oh please. They are going to go so easy on each other. He needs to point out how piss poor her solutions are. You're gonna be disappointed. I doubt Bernie would even go hard at Biden. He's going to hug Warren.
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Yeah I think Bernie's cowardice will overcome his hatred for Warren. He'll keep the dagger sheathed and just stick with the tired stump speech
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