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always be closing
Jul 16, 2005
Do we know of anything going on sale for prime day?

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Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

Amazon usually does roughly half off, give or take

Cheesus
Oct 17, 2002

Let us retract the foreskin of ignorance and apply the wirebrush of enlightenment.
Yam Slacker
https://press.aboutamazon.com/news-releases/news-release-details/starting-monday-july-15-ask-alexa-what-are-my-prime-day-deals-0

I picked up my 10" on a lark from last year's $100 sale and have been happy with it, mostly for reading comic books and non-comic books.

I installed the Google ecosystem on it too and my kid loves it for the games and various Play-apps that work with it.

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


sourdough posted:

A Nexus 7 is real rough at this point anyway. Performance on a Kindle Fire is dogshit, but still good enough to make me ditch the Nexus like a year-ish ago.

Yeah but I already have this collecting dust in a drawer. It did turn on though so I'll do a factory reset and see what happens

fluppet
Feb 10, 2009
Apart from screen size is there any difference between the fire 8" and 10"

EugeneJ
Feb 5, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

fluppet posted:

Apart from screen size is there any difference between the fire 8" and 10"

Fire 10 is stuck on Android Lollipop and newer apps might not run on it

Fire 10 only has a VGA front-facing camera

Fire 10 has more RAM and a faster processor

sourdough
Apr 30, 2012
Fire 8 isn't just smaller, it's also got a lower density display at 1280x800 resolution

always be closing
Jul 16, 2005
So which one will be best to play mtg arena on when it gets it's Android port?

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002

always be closing posted:

So which one will be best to play mtg arena on when it gets it's Android port?

Honestly, just go to SA Mart and buy the Dell 7285 that Skelter is selling for a crazy price.

Chillyrabbit
Oct 24, 2012

The only sword wielding rabbit on the internet



Ultra Carp
So what are my options for getting out of Android lollipop and into something a little more modern?

Looking for a decent screen used to read ebooks and manga, and light browsing and youtube watching.

Currently using a Samsung S 8.4, which feels a little long in the tooth by now.

always be closing
Jul 16, 2005

Grabbed this, thanks for the heads up.

Worf
Sep 12, 2017

If only Seth would love me like I love him!


That was really nice of you to help one goon pay rent and another get a tablet

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002
I had to keep myself from buying it and that was easier than having self control.

always be closing
Jul 16, 2005

FreelanceSocialist posted:

I had to keep myself from buying it and that was easier than having self control.

:hfive:

Moey
Oct 22, 2010

I LIKE TO MOVE IT

Chillyrabbit posted:

Samsung S 8.4, which feels a little long in the tooth by now.

I tossed LineageOS on my Tab S 8.4 and it has made it useable for the past few years.

Node
May 20, 2001

KICKED IN THE COOTER
:dings:
Taco Defender
I want to get a tablet and I've decided on the Galaxy Tab S4. I already have a Samsung phone with an ATT data plan. Do I need to buy the ATT version of the Tab S4 to tether to my phone, or can I use the regular, non branded type? I don't want to buy a data plan for the tablet since I'd rarely use it while away from wi-fi, but I'd like to have the option on the rare car trip.

Setset
Apr 14, 2012
Grimey Drawer

Node posted:

I want to get a tablet and I've decided on the Galaxy Tab S4. I already have a Samsung phone with an ATT data plan. Do I need to buy the ATT version of the Tab S4 to tether to my phone, or can I use the regular, non branded type? I don't want to buy a data plan for the tablet since I'd rarely use it while away from wi-fi, but I'd like to have the option on the rare car trip.

Can you create a hotspot with your current phone? Usually they make you pay extra to do that.

In my case it was easier to buy 5gb/5 months for $10 than pay an extra 10$/month for hotspot (some vendors offer cheap plansfor LTE tablets because they want your business)

unl33t
Feb 21, 2004



How is the Pixel Slate and the Chrome OS in general? Best Buy is offering them for $200 bucks off today and I was thinking of picking one up to upgrade from the old Lenovo android tablet I have now. Or would I be better off waiting for a sale on Samsung proper Android tablets?

Hippie Hedgehog
Feb 19, 2007

Ever cuddled a hedgehog?
Is it possible to find an Android tablet with a 12" or larger screen?
Notably, I don't need a keyboard or a "laptop lite" experience, or high performance. I would use it for reading and for reading sheet music. I've seen musicians make great use of the big iPad Pro, but the thing costs a fortune and all it needs to do is show black dots on white paper.

isndl
May 2, 2012
I WON A CONTEST IN TG AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS CUSTOM TITLE

Hippie Hedgehog posted:

Is it possible to find an Android tablet with a 12" or larger screen?
Notably, I don't need a keyboard or a "laptop lite" experience, or high performance. I would use it for reading and for reading sheet music. I've seen musicians make great use of the big iPad Pro, but the thing costs a fortune and all it needs to do is show black dots on white paper.

I think at that point you're going to be stuck with searching for 2-in-1 laptops in your price range unless there's some offbrand stuff on the Chinese marketplaces available. You might not need the keyboard on the 2-in-1 but it can work as a kickstand if you flip it into tent mode, and some models have the keyboard as detachable.

Hippie Hedgehog
Feb 19, 2007

Ever cuddled a hedgehog?

isndl posted:

I think at that point you're going to be stuck with searching for 2-in-1 laptops in your price range unless there's some offbrand stuff on the Chinese marketplaces available. You might not need the keyboard on the 2-in-1 but it can work as a kickstand if you flip it into tent mode, and some models have the keyboard as detachable.

Yeah, that's been my conclusion as well. Thanks for confirming it.

Worf
Sep 12, 2017

If only Seth would love me like I love him!

there must be so many 2 in 1 chromebooks out there under $200 that fit this description and use case 100%

Hippie Hedgehog
Feb 19, 2007

Ever cuddled a hedgehog?
Well, the reason I ask about tablets is that it must:

1) Be light and thin enough to keep on a music stand
2) Have a touchscreen
3) Be able to run some software for sheet music. I've found good examples on Android, IOS and Windows but I don't know what a Chromebook can run.

And the crux is 4) be at least 12" diagonal...


Edit: Newegg has a cheap Lenovo Chromebook that I would use, except it's only 11.6" and it's not listed as being able to run Android apps on https://sites.google.com/a/chromium.org/dev/chromium-os/chrome-os-systems-supporting-android-apps

Hippie Hedgehog fucked around with this message at 13:09 on Jul 29, 2019

Wibla
Feb 16, 2011

Have you considered a used surface pro 3 or similar?

Hippie Hedgehog
Feb 19, 2007

Ever cuddled a hedgehog?
That might not be the worst idea.
Not many used ones available locally, but they're about the same price as a new cheap Lenovo Flex 14". The Lenovo has a terrible screen compared to the Surface.


Edit:Ebay cheaper of course.
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F293162167010

He has a hundred of them? :-O


Gonna try my use case on a friend's Surface Pro first, see how I like it. Thanks for the tip!

Hippie Hedgehog fucked around with this message at 17:08 on Jul 30, 2019

duck monster
Dec 15, 2004

Just a heads up, theres some very dodgy tablets going around on Ebay..



If your wondering what your looking at, Thats an android 4.4 tablet with the OS identity string sabotaged to say Android 8.1

I won't name names, but its basically tablets for under $100 (significantly under in some cases)
claiming to be;-
Android 8.1 : (Its android 4.4)
2Ghz: (Its 1.3ghz)
10 Core: (Ad claims 10 core, SpecDevice claims 5 cores, but I cant find any evidence of the ARM7s with 5 cores ....Its a mystery)
Resolution : 2560*1600: (Its 1280x800)
4Gb Ram: (Its 1Gb)
64gb Storage: (Its 16 Gb)
4G phone: (Couldn't actually get this to work, the baseband identifier suggests its only 2G/GSM)

The worst part is they've hacked the settings app to claim its got all the things in the ad, but on deeper dive its just fraud.

I've contacted eBay but they dont seem interested in investigating it because the seller refunded me (Only after I threatened to rat him out to the Malaysian Commercial Crime Investigation Division) so I guess best I can do is just raise the alarm publicly not to buy these counterfeit tablets

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Name names. Why are you trying to protect some generic Chinese company?

Worf
Sep 12, 2017

If only Seth would love me like I love him!

duck monster posted:

Just a heads up, theres some very dodgy tablets going around on Ebay..



If your wondering what your looking at, Thats an android 4.4 tablet with the OS identity string sabotaged to say Android 8.1

I won't name names, but its basically tablets for under $100 (significantly under in some cases)
claiming to be;-
Android 8.1 : (Its android 4.4)
2Ghz: (Its 1.3ghz)
10 Core: (Ad claims 10 core, SpecDevice claims 5 cores, but I cant find any evidence of the ARM7s with 5 cores ....Its a mystery)
Resolution : 2560*1600: (Its 1280x800)
4Gb Ram: (Its 1Gb)
64gb Storage: (Its 16 Gb)
4G phone: (Couldn't actually get this to work, the baseband identifier suggests its only 2G/GSM)

The worst part is they've hacked the settings app to claim its got all the things in the ad, but on deeper dive its just fraud.

I've contacted eBay but they dont seem interested in investigating it because the seller refunded me (Only after I threatened to rat him out to the Malaysian Commercial Crime Investigation Division) so I guess best I can do is just raise the alarm publicly not to buy these counterfeit tablets

The best you can do is actually name the names, rather than coming in here and showing everybody your math in copious detail and then waiting for us to coax the answer out of you.

E: to be clear, it seems like you did good work but my work flow for fraud starts at who before it goes to how

You just said a bunch of nonsense that I assume isn't even real because you intentionally and willfully didn't provide the only relevant piece of data in the whole set

😇

duck monster
Dec 15, 2004

Endless Mike posted:

Name names. Why are you trying to protect some generic Chinese company?

Fair enough. I wanted to give them the benefit of the doubt that they might just be a drop shipper that sold a dud without knowing it themselves. But its still up with the fraudulent description after I passed on my evidence, so gently caress em. Its greenonions111

Heres the ad;-

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/273850285218?ul_noapp=true

Heres the fuckery

Note the vastly different story told by Spec Device and the Settings app

https://imgur.com/a/u0Y9xj7

Re OS version. Three data points there. API19 = Android 4.4. The Kernel version is the Linux kernel used in 4.4 and most damning, if you tap the
OS version 5 times, it plays the Android 4.4 Kitkat easter egg. This shits been tampered with

Also theres this. I just realised this is almost certainly only 4 core. CPU is a MediaTex MT6582. Thats not 10 core, nor even 5 core . Its just a 4 core 32 bit relatively ancient Arm7 device

http://specdevice.com/showspec.php?id=6410-fb7f-5b5f-cf180033c587




edit: Looks like Ebay shut them down. I cant find any evidence of the seller at all.

edit2: Nope. The ads actually back.

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/HD-Scre...5.c100009.m1982

duck monster fucked around with this message at 13:00 on Aug 11, 2019

zokie
Feb 13, 2006

Out of many, Sweden
I'm looking for something for the kids (2 & 4) to look at the tubes on, for me to blog on, and some basic word processing and spreadsheet stuff. Is an iPad with a keyboard a good option for this?

Setset
Apr 14, 2012
Grimey Drawer

zokie posted:

I'm looking for something for the kids (2 & 4) to look at the tubes on, for me to blog on, and some basic word processing and spreadsheet stuff. Is an iPad with a keyboard a good option for this?

Depending on the intensity of the spreadsheets, maybe. Pivot tables or copy/cutting rows is difficult for me with touch controls. Granted I haven’t tried office 365, just the free apple one and google docs in safari. Just making a table though? Sure

Not Wolverine
Jul 1, 2007
My Nexus 7 is still trucking along, I use it to read e-books in class and if I want to load Youtube or Netflix (for my kids, after class) I cross my fingers and wait a few minutes while it chugs along. I think the go to replacement is some sort of Amazon flavor of tablet? My problem with that is 1) gently caress Jeff Bezos and 2) is it possible to load the Google Play store? At the very least, I want Chrome instead of Amazon's own crappy browser. I used to have a Kindle Kid's edition, it lasted less than a year before the Micro USB port wore out and it no longer charges, the worst part about it was the Fire OS was a piece of poo poo. I own a Pixel XL and Pixel 2 XL and a Nexus 7 - I really like bare bones vanilla Android and from what I remember, Fire OS is (was?) Android with several layers of Amazon bloat. Can I de-bloat a Kindle and hack on the Play store?

If a Kindle is not the right option, I know I saw Onn recommended but I'm hesitant to want to trust a Walmart brand to last a long time. I've bought Onn electronics in the past - specifically speakers or sound bars, and have always ended up returning them due to dissatisfaction or terrible interfaces. My next option would be maybe a Samsung tablet except I thought Samsung likes to cram a ton bloat onto devices and I really do not want Bixby in my life. I think a new surface is out of my budget, I'm almost ready to join the cult of Steve Jobs but I'm pretty sure Apple is even farther outside of my budget.

TLDR; what Android tablet has a vanilla OS, a 7" to 10" screen (7" preferred) and costs about $300? My budget can stretch a little if necessary. Also, wireless charging or a durable (gently caress Micro USB) charging port are highly preferred.

VictualSquid
Feb 29, 2012

Gently enveloping the target with indiscriminate love.
I got a chuwi hi9p and it is fine for almost the same usecase as yours.
Mostly bought it because it was the cheapest usb-c tablet a year ago, and because amazon rarely has cheap sales in my region.
Almost stock android, but almost not updates. And the changelog and update messages are only in Chinese.

Not Wolverine
Jul 1, 2007

VictualSquid posted:

I got a chuwi hi9p and it is fine for almost the same usecase as yours.
Mostly bought it because it was the cheapest usb-c tablet a year ago, and because amazon rarely has cheap sales in my region.
Almost stock android, but almost not updates. And the changelog and update messages are only in Chinese.

Is Chuwi a no name ali-express tablet? I'm totally fine with a no-name Chineseium tablet I just want to know what kind of worms are in this can before I open it. Also I did not see a specific hi9p, I saw Hi9 Pro, Hi9 Plus, or Hi9 Air, I assume you were referring to the Pro model? Do you know how the other Plus and Air compare to the Pro?

VictualSquid
Feb 29, 2012

Gently enveloping the target with indiscriminate love.

Crotch Fruit posted:

Is Chuwi a no name ali-express tablet? I'm totally fine with a no-name Chineseium tablet I just want to know what kind of worms are in this can before I open it. Also I did not see a specific hi9p, I saw Hi9 Pro, Hi9 Plus, or Hi9 Air, I assume you were referring to the Pro model? Do you know how the other Plus and Air compare to the Pro?
I have Hi9 Plus. I think the Pro is a year older and/or with a smaller screen. I don't remember noticing the Air when I was researching.

Scaramouche
Mar 26, 2001

SPACE FACE! SPACE FACE!

Any thoughts on the new Samsung tablets coming out? It's looking like nice but not for that price to me.

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

Scaramouche posted:

Any thoughts on the new Samsung tablets coming out? It's looking like nice but not for that price to me.

I don't know who would pay more than $250 for an android tablet at this point unless you live in a society where not only your phone, but also the tablet you use is a status indicator. I don' think the public knows/cares enough about the tablet market to really assign much value to a $700 tablet especially if it's not an Apple. Also Tablets sort of peaked in 2013 when the Nexus 7/Original iPad Air came out and nothing has really changed in the last 6 years with tablets so they all look the same at this point.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Even the basic iPad can be gotten for $250 on sale and is great at that price.

Not Wolverine
Jul 1, 2007
Hi9 plus arrived today, first impressions I like it. It's far more responsive than my Nexus 7 but it's not as fast as my pixel phone. The only minor annoyance i have found is that the official Netflix refuses to install, says it is incompatible. Is there a good 3rd party Netflix app?

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feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Crotch Fruit posted:

Hi9 plus arrived today, first impressions I like it. It's far more responsive than my Nexus 7 but it's not as fast as my pixel phone. The only minor annoyance i have found is that the official Netflix refuses to install, says it is incompatible. Is there a good 3rd party Netflix app?

Given how keen Netflix is on DRM, so you can't pirate their sweet sweet TV shows on your tablet, I'd be surprised.

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