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So I guess the Court didn't think it reasonable to fire a quadriplegic government employee for not removing his badge from a laptop [which he wasn't physically capable of doing]quote:Mr. Augustus responded by informing Mr. Smith that “such conduct will not be tolerated and may result in disci-plinary action.” J.A. 1840. He reprimanded Mr. Smith for failing to follow instructions regarding how and when tasks should be completed. And he issued a record of infraction, accusing Mr. Smith of violating GSA’s information technol-ogy (“IT”) policy by leaving his computer access card (“PIV” card) unattended in his laptop in his cubicle. Mr. Augustus did not acknowledge that Mr. Smith, a quadriplegic, had never removed the PIV card from his laptop because he was physically unable to do so. http://www.cafc.uscourts.gov/sites/default/files/opinions-orders/18-1604.Opinion.7-19-2019.pdf
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gvibes posted:Like docketnavigator, for patent cases? Docketnavigator has (or at least had when I last used it) limited proprietary data but would presumably be one example - mostly it’s just a PACER replicator. Lex Machina is the big one and does have significant amounts of proprietary/hand-checked data. There’s also some analytics run as an adjunct to the primary business model (RPX and Unified Patents.). All that’s in the patent space, though Lex has expanded beyond it.
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you think a film adaptation of CATS is a good idea? Really? I'd say I question your judgment but... I went to law school, so I can't really talk. In other news. One of my last bullshit habeas trials, closing out. Post Trial brief (that judge didn't even want us to do but OC whined and insisted) was due Friday. I forgot what with the whole immediate family member death this month and all. Got nice e-mail from the clerk (this is why making friends with the clerks is good... future lawyers, take note) reminding me. I go "ohsi… it's almost done. I'll get you a motion to extend asap." we need opposing counsel's position. So I explain to this bitch the reason (My dad died), and that I am asking an extension to Thursday. She objects. On the grounds that because they were supposed to be simultaneous briefs (she wanted reply briefs too) it's unfair that I get to read hers before filing mine. Except... she mail served hers. It hasn't even arrived yet. (and also I never read anything I don't actually have to respond to). So... in a nutshell... garbage human being. and also a lovely lawyer. like painful to watch. In other other news.... had to do a "justify your existence because the state is broke" numbers game. In the last 5 years, I've briefed and argued 24 appeals, tried 67 habeas cases and 4 murder trials, and wrote/argued over 200 motions. Jesus loving Christ. I need a loving vacation.
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Terror Ninja posted:So I guess the Court didn't think it reasonable to fire a quadriplegic government employee for not removing his badge from a laptop [which he wasn't physically capable of doing] people are garbage.
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El_Elegante posted:HBO’s Chernobyl is good horror/thriller. have heard good. but looking for something more movie length. Nonexistence posted:All of Black Mirror. Last season was fairly recent. Concur. Even Miley Cyrus was tolerable. Favorite episode? sullat posted:Altered Carbon was good. Octonauts is another good one. The cartoon about anamorphic bears in a submarine? blarzgh posted:Train to Busan Hill House was amazing. Concur. Will check out under the skin tonight. Edit: just read the synopsis. You have issues. Whitlam posted:
Exorcist is classic. But you think CATS movie is a good idea. I cannot take any of your recommendations seriously. ActusRhesus fucked around with this message at 01:44 on Jul 30, 2019 |
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Netflix so gently caress knows if we even have the same content but I found Clown pretty weird and unnerving. Otherwise yeah, Hill House is good. I'm also a sucker for the classics and The Exorcist is one of my favourites of all time. Not entirely horror but The Endless was also entirely brilliant and well worth checking out, imo.
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ActusRhesus posted:Exorcist is classic. But you think CATS movie is a good idea. I cannot take any of your recommendations seriously. Good idea on the grounds of "it looks terrifying and awful. Hell yeah I'm in." Don't pretend you're unfamiliar with that line of thinking, you went to law school too.
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The exorcist is one of the best movies ever made it’s literally perfect
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How did you feel about the remaster with the added scenes? Better or worse than original release?
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I have no idea. What added scenes.
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ActusRhesus posted:Will check out under the skin tonight. Edit: just read the synopsis. You have issues. The atmospheric tension and visual storytelling make up for the lack of elf sex
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More Exorcist = more good. I went to a screening once with an introduction with Linda Blair, which was fun. The book is also a great read if you haven't checked it out. I know they bring out goon scorn but the Regan Funko Pop is actually good as well, come at me.
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Any last minute bar exam tips? After it’s all over I’m going on a three day bender in Vermont.
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ActusRhesus posted:
Too close to choose between Miley Cirus and the Uber driver. Of the whole series, Nosedive hands down.
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Toona the Cat posted:Any last minute bar exam tips? After it’s all over I’m going on a three day bender in Vermont. Keep track of your time on the essays, if you're over time on one essay, move on. You get far more points with listing the rule and recognizing relevant facts than on your analysis. You'll lose more points overall if you're concerned with polish. On the MBE go with your first choice and move on. If you aren't sure about a question, pick the answer you think is most right, write the number down on the back of the test book and come back to it IF you have time. If you've studied hard enough, you should recognize what a question is asking, even subconsciously, your gut is more likely right than wrong. Breathe, go to the bathroom if you need to, holding it will be more distracting than the 3 minute trip to the bathroom. You're going to think you did worse than you actually did. Just put an answer down for every question and you're halfway done.
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ActusRhesus posted:The cartoon about anamorphic bears in a submarine? There's only one bear, the captain. The first mate is a cat and the ship's doctor is a penguin. And it's more like a mobile undersea base that has a number of attached submersible vehicles.
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Interesting legal question: IF you are a person who puts his seat back on a plane or a bus, are you a huge piece of poo poo? I'm gonna go with yes.
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Nice piece of fish posted:Interesting legal question: IF you are a person who puts his seat back on a plane or a bus, are you a huge piece of poo poo? The real villain is the capitalist system which overpopulates the plane and makes conflict inevitable.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:The real villain is the capitalist Truer words were never spoken.
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lol lawyers railing about capitalism.
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Toona the Cat posted:Any last minute bar exam tips? After it’s all over I’m going on a three day bender in Vermont. Just make sure that they take you to an in-network hospital for your next pancreatitis flare.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:The real villain is the capitalist system which overpopulates the plane and makes conflict inevitable. the real villain is the UST's office which objects to seeking reimbursement for first class tickets
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ulmont posted:- “don’t be bottom 30%” is something most of us can aspire to. Speak for yourself dickhead
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ActusRhesus posted:lol lawyers railing about capitalism. 
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I'd have gone with "don't hate the player, hate the game" myself
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Lawyers work hourly, they got as much reason to hate capital as anyone
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Look Sir Droids posted:At the firm I worked at, I frequently had to use https://www.sharkrepellent.net/ But that's not necessarily legal analytics. gvibes posted:Like docketnavigator, for patent cases? I'm having trouble telling, myself. The folks who asked me to do this are setting up a legal analytics startup using a truly unique dataset, and they've realized they have no real basis for their price setup. I've been asked to identify "similar products" . The example they gave me was fastcase, which appears to be a far more generic legal research company. Some others in my initial list include gavelytics and ktmine. They want prices from these places too, which is a problem, of course. So far only gavelytics has public pricing information. I'll take a look at the ones you name as well. At this point my plan is to give them as much as possible, so feel free to toss out any names that come to mind. Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 16:59 on Jul 30, 2019 |
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Discendo Vox posted:I'm having trouble telling, myself. The folks who asked me to do this are setting up a legal analytics startup using a truly unique dataset, and they've realized they have no real basis for their price setup. I've been asked to identify "similar products" . The example they gave me was fastcase, which appears to be a far more generic legal research company. The others in my initial list include gavelytics and ktmine. Lex Machina doesn’t make pricing public, but their lowest priced service is 15k/year (scaling into 7 digit annual subscriptions for large firms and corporations), no per seat limitation. Docket Navigator I think makes their prices public, but starts in the range of 90/month for a single seat last I looked.
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Discendo Vox posted:I'm having trouble telling, myself. The folks who asked me to do this are setting up a legal analytics startup using a truly unique dataset, and they've realized they have no real basis for their price setup. I've been asked to identify "similar products" . The example they gave me was fastcase, which appears to be a far more generic legal research company. Some others in my initial list include gavelytics and ktmine. Yeah, most analytics companies aren't going to post pricing. And I suspect they price based on the customer. Lex Machina is probably a good standard bearer in general though. Shark Repellent is transactional. They may post their prices per report. IIRC they range from $100-500 a pop. More towards general legal research would be Bloomberg Law. They have some analytical materials they acquired when they bought BNA (really good for qui tams). Their pricing isn't public, but it's around $600+ a month per seat with a discount if you are buying a bunch of licenses.
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Discendo Vox posted:I'm having trouble telling, myself. The folks who asked me to do this are setting up a legal analytics startup using a truly unique dataset, and they've realized they have no real basis for their price setup. I've been asked to identify "similar products" . The example they gave me was fastcase, which appears to be a far more generic legal research company. Some others in my initial list include gavelytics and ktmine. I don't have much experience directly working with such products but they're generating a lot of buzz. I think Ravel is the big one, I've worked cases with attorneys who were using it. I went to a conference recently on artificial intelligence and the law and here are some of my notes:
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ulmont posted:- “don’t be bottom 30%” is something most of us can aspire to. Soothing Vapors posted:Speak for yourself dickhead Honestly, the people who were bottom 30% of my class? Those people shouldn't be practicing law. Or doing anything more complicated than maybe trash collection.
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ulmont posted:Honestly, the people who were bottom 30% of my class? Those people shouldn't be practicing law. Or doing anything more complicated than maybe trash collection. The lowest performers in my classes are usually the people putting a lot of things ahead of school. For some, it's jobs and/or their children. For others, it's day drinking and/or naps. The Dunning-Kruger students are pretty rare.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:I don't have much experience directly working with such products but they're generating a lot of buzz. I think Ravel is the big one, I've worked cases with attorneys who were using it. Pretty depressing poo poo and definitely the death of justice. Once I climb the administrative ranks I'm going to implement ways to gently caress over firms that use AI, starting with the biggest.
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homullus posted:The lowest performers in my classes are usually the people putting a lot of things ahead of school. For some, it's jobs and/or their children. For others, it's day drinking and/or naps. The Dunning-Kruger students are pretty rare. But boy will they make themselves heard when it comes time for classroom discussion!
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Nice piece of fish posted:Pretty depressing poo poo and definitely the death of justice. I think it's pretty much inevitable. The net takeaway from the conference was make partner ASAP because everything associates do is swiftly getting automated. Interesting ly, it may help with access to justice issues, if nonprofits and legal aid adopt it on a wide scale. Cheap automated legal advice could arm a lot of people against injustice. Won't happen though because the tools will all have huge pricetags due to monopolization. Hieronymous Alloy fucked around with this message at 18:31 on Jul 30, 2019 |
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Vox Nihili posted:But boy will they make themselves heard when it comes time for classroom discussion! Seriously. I see what you’re going for there but... not quite.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:I think it's pretty much inevitable. The net takeaway from the conference was make partner ASAP because everything associates do is swiftly getting automated. i think you'll find that all of the tools will be free, because there will be a clause in them allowing them to sell all your information the buyers of that information will be your opponent
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:I think it's pretty much inevitable. The net takeaway from the conference was make partner ASAP because everything associates do is swiftly getting automated. I have heard a lot less about doc review automation recently than I was hearing five years ago, and my guess is it hit the same wall a lot of "ai" projects have been hitting. Beyond that, I'm not sure what stuff that associates do that would be automated - and the grunt doc review stuff is already outsourced to contract attorneys instead of associates (and the stuff that associates do in that circumstance isn't automatable yet and I have doubts it will be). What other tasks were going to be automated away in the future?
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No one in this thread will be practicing law by the time AI significantly takes away associate jobs. It will kill LAs and paralegals first.
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Look Sir Droids posted:No one in this thread will be practicing law by the time AI significantly takes away associate jobs. It will kill LAs and paralegals first. You're not automating away what a paralegal does anytime soon without an actual robot. Legal assistants got largely automated away by the desktop computer and the remaining tasks are bespoke enough AI isn't gonna do poo poo there.
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