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loving hell, is Epic even trying to pretend at this point that their exclusivity doesn't just mean "not on Steam"? Their "exclusive" games are going to be available on all the other platforms, and even on PC on other distribution channels--the only place you can't get the titles that they've scooped is Steam.
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Bombadilillo posted:Yeah if quake is the game getting 60fps, how's a modern game supposed to use the tech? I can get 60fps in Battlefield V with RTX on, but only low settings, so many of the best uses of RTX are disabled, and the effects are really not noticed during normal gameplay anyways.
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404notfound posted:loving hell, is Epic even trying to pretend at this point that their exclusivity doesn't just mean "not on Steam"? Their "exclusive" games are going to be available on all the other platforms, and even on PC on other distribution channels--the only place you can't get the titles that they've scooped is Steam. Thats all theyve ever cared about tho. Their true exclusives are like an early access roguelite with no console versions in development yet
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404notfound posted:loving hell, is Epic even trying to pretend at this point that their exclusivity doesn't just mean "not on Steam"? Their "exclusive" games are going to be available on all the other platforms, and even on PC on other distribution channels--the only place you can't get the titles that they've scooped is Steam. When Fortnite is no longer a huge deal, this entire system Epic has built is going to collapse and turn to dust.
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I said come in! posted:When Fortnite is no longer a huge deal, this entire system Epic has built is going to collapse and turn to dust.
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Having "we can do raytracing in real time now!" seems really exciting until you realize devs have spent the last 20 years coming up with ways to fake their way to similar results, and most of them work pretty well.
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Jul 30, 2019 17:58
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TheScott2K posted:The classic Quake games have been lying real dormant. Other than that wild 1080p version of Q2 that came as a value-add with Quake 4 they've been a non-presence the last two console gens. Maybe they were hoping Champions would get people interested. Quake II (I think it was 2) got full RTX support for some reason, but yeah, it's pretty dead. bushisms.txt posted:Hey Turok devs, congrats on 2 releasing soon. Now when is Rage wars with online multiplayer? I need to grind some raptors I believe Nightdive only managed to get the source code for Turok 1 and 2 and they used the PC version as the base; Rage Wars and Turok 3 never had PC versions either. I remember them saying they'd love to bring them over but they don't have the source to work with.
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s.i.r.e. posted:Quake II (I think it was 2) got full RTX support for some reason, but yeah, it's pretty dead. That doesn't even count as a sign-of-life for the franchise really because Bethesda/Id had nothing to do with it. An independent graphics researcher used the already public Q2 source code to make a proof-of-concept, then Nvidia picked up his code and made a more polished version.
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Jul 30, 2019 18:03
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I said come in! posted:When Fortnite is no longer a huge deal, this entire system Epic has built is going to collapse and turn to dust. How long would this take though? Even things like Counterstrike still get regular play despite its age. Fornite as a massive user base that'll probably stick with the game for years to come, probably like Minecraft. They've definitely moved past the point where a feasible "Fortnite" killer could rise up and take its place.
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Jul 30, 2019 18:14
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bushisms.txt posted:Hey Turok devs, congrats on 2 releasing soon. Now when is Rage wars with online multiplayer? I need to grind some raptors 100YrsofAttitude posted:How long would this take though? Even things like Counterstrike still get regular play despite its age. Fornite as a massive user base that'll probably stick with the game for years to come, probably like Minecraft.
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Jul 30, 2019 18:31
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Turok devs when will you port the lovely Game Boy Color Turok. It was the game I got for Christmas when my parents got me a Game Boy Color. I did not ask for it. I did not want it. But I'm asking for it now.
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Yeah, I feel like Fortnite has definitely reached "it will always be big" status. You never saw athletes miming minecraft steve on the field, you never saw celebrities play counterstrike and Team Fortress 2 wasnt a problem at every single school in the country. Those are all games that are very old that still see tons of play today and by all accounts are very popular despite their age, but none of them are even close to Fortnites popularity Fortnite is firmly in "too big to fail unless they massively gently caress it up" territory. Its gonna be a cash cow for a long, long time
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Jul 30, 2019 18:33
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Fortnight is very flash in the pan. It's growth is unsustainable. People will get over it.
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Fortnite will eventually regress to call of duty status That is, it'll still be massively popular, just not literally all-consuming for its genre
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Jul 30, 2019 18:42
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njsykora posted:I'm glad that the good Turok game is getting properly remade as well. Turok 1 was already redone though.
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Jul 30, 2019 18:44
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Fortnite got that way because they spend enormous energy making the game feel new and adding updates. It was released in 2017 and I still think of it as a new game. They also don't make the game worse for normal people for the sake of esports. Part of the lesson here is just how bad and clueless blizzard and valve were/are at maintaining a lead. Fortnite won't be popular forever and I doubt it will have all that many crzy diehards the way starcraft 2 does when it eventually goes. But nobody is even remotely competing with epic in terms of how seriously they take keeping their game fun rather than retreating to competitive as an excuse for stale gameplay.
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TheScott2K posted:Having "we can do raytracing in real time now!" seems really exciting until you realize devs have spent the last 20 years coming up with ways to fake their way to similar results, and most of them work pretty well.
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I don't know what ray tracing is but I do know I have never missed it and I don't care about it.
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There's a goon here who worked with the team that did the recent turok 1/2 games right? Question, why didn't you do turok 3? Also why are the turok games on Xbox and switch but not ps4? Just legitimately curious.
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:I don't know what ray tracing is but I do know I have never missed it and I don't care about it. ok
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:I don't know what ray tracing is but I do know I have never missed it and I don't care about it. Seems like it needs a lot of overhead and doesn't make anything look that much better than prerendered lighting and stencil shadows thus far. "Oh the reflections on that car you're running by at full speed look way better" who loving cares
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Jul 30, 2019 19:24
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Ineffiable posted:There's a goon here who worked with the team that did the recent turok 1/2 games right? Sony won't let us see those lewd titties on Turok, the bastards.
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Jul 30, 2019 19:29
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I wonder what Epic would be like right now if PUBG didn't jumpstart Fortnite's fortunes. Fortnite would have puttered out quickly with only its horde mode, no Epic Store, etc.
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Jul 30, 2019 19:34
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So numbers-go-up but as a crafting game Forager is out for Switch now. So far seems like a fine port. Its a fun little game but I never played before so who knows how short it is.
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TheScott2K posted:Seems like it needs a lot of overhead and doesn't make anything look that much better than prerendered lighting and stencil shadows thus far. Yeah and next-gen console raytracing performance will have to be tightly constrained if the consoles are gonna be affordable. At most I'm expecting maybe a handful of games will showcase raytracing briefly in a carefully orchestrated way. Tbh I think the promise of full-on raytracing has more payoff for devs and publishers than gamers. Realistic reflections and shadows would be a nice incremental improvement. But being able to light a scene just by tossing some lights and materials around an environment (vs. building bespoke lighting systems and effects) could drastically reduce the amount of labor required to produce a photorealistic AAA game.
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Jul 30, 2019 20:01
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I'm living the dream (excuse the extremely bad lighting)
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:I wonder what Epic would be like right now if PUBG didn't jumpstart Fortnite's fortunes. Fortnite would have puttered out quickly with only its horde mode, no Epic Store, etc. No Wave fucked around with this message at 20:16 on Jul 30, 2019 |
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Jul 30, 2019 20:12
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HenryEx posted:I'm living the dream See! You can do voice chat on the Switch 
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Ineffiable posted:Question, why didn't you do turok 3? This question implies we for some reason had the opportunity to do Turok3 and chose not to. You don't have enough information to assume that.  Ineffiable posted:Also why are the turok games on Xbox and switch but not ps4? Just legitimately curious. As for the order, it just so happened that id@xbox talked to us first (there was no exclusivity deal there despite what some rumours claim), and then the Switch came out and was super hot. So that kind of picked the order for us. Rocket Pan fucked around with this message at 20:47 on Jul 30, 2019 |
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Just gonna leave this here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewFnCWyXyEk
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Turok: Rage Wars ruled, even in spite of the gamebreaking bug where you could never finish the campaign
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I bought Youngblood when I was drunk. It plays much better than the previous entry, but I played that on Xbox. Maybe it’s the gyro? I’m much better handheld than docked.
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Rocket Pan posted:This question implies we for some reason had the opportunity to do Turok3 and chose not to. You don't have enough information to assume that. That's not what the post implied. (The teams fault or decision)
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Rocket Pan posted:This question implies we for some reason had the opportunity to do Turok3 and chose not to. You don't have enough information to assume that. What did you think of the DF Retro video on Turok? It must have been cool to see them praise your team's work.
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Rocket Pan posted:We have a small team and an in-house engine. Creating support for a new platform, as well as even wrangling the devkits necessary to do the work can be an absolute nightmare How complete was your game when you made your pitch to Nintendo and how much work was exporting your engine to the Switch? Word on the street is Nintendo is stingy with devkits, especially for no-names like me. I've got a jam game that I'm fleshing out into a full game and while I could wait until the game is basically finished to petition them, I think I'd end up with better results and less time spent porting my engine if I had a devkit while I'm still in development.
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Bombadilillo posted:That's not what the post implied. (The teams fault or decision) What I mean is more there isn't enough information to pose the question. We haven't announced that we aren't doing Turok3, after all. The idea isn't off the table.
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Hammer Bro. posted:How complete was your game when you made your pitch to Nintendo and how much work was exporting your engine to the Switch? That question is a bit more complicated because we already had Turok1&2 ported and released on the Xbox by that time. So technically the game was already done, but there was no Switch port/code yet. Detective No. 27 posted:What did you think of the DF Retro video on Turok? It must have been cool to see them praise your team's work. Rather neat to see, though we already knew about the video in advance because John Linneman approached us with questions. Rocket Pan fucked around with this message at 21:23 on Jul 30, 2019 |
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:I don't know what ray tracing is but I do know I have never missed it and I don't care about it. Its a more realistic physics for light and sound lol j/k its a new switch exclusive rayman art game that youre banned from buying, mr attitude.
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I said come in! posted:The Outer Worlds is the game I am most excited for this year. It's Fallout New Vegas in a completely original science fiction setting. I'm real loving excited for it, I hope the switch version is good
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