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Crunch Buttsteak posted:I'm guessing "la la la la I can't hear you". Most Freepers are brain-broken enough to view Trump's tweets as gospel, and ignore anything in reality that would contradict them. I mean why bother watching the testimony when Hannity will show you all the important stuff before bed and Rush will tell you about all the lies the Dems used Mueller to push the next day?
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# ? Jul 25, 2019 08:46 |
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Jurgan posted:Well, one of the Republican congressmen basically said "I thought innocent until proven guilty was the law, so how can he be not exonerated if you didn't charge him?" My guess is that will be the line. An increasingly exasperated Muller saying that it is not his job to charge Trump and that the Justice Department can't even legally indict a sitting president is a big loving mood if I've ever seen one. It's like a random store clerk trying to explain to a lovely customer that they don't set the prices. Congress is trying to hedge itself on the choice of whether to impeach or not by trying to get Muller to make the decision. Which isn't remotely how the process is supposed to work, but these are the times we live in I guess. I feel sorry for Muller.
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# ? Jul 25, 2019 16:47 |
Corsair Pool Boy posted:I mean why bother watching the testimony when Hannity will show you all the important stuff before bed and Rush will tell you about all the lies the Dems used Mueller to push the next day? Trump literally said in his press conference that Mueller said he didn't commit and crime and yelled "You're fake news!" at reporters. Freep is at the point of unconditionally believing a tantrum. Warmachine posted:An increasingly exasperated Muller saying that it is not his job to charge Trump and that the Justice Department can't even legally indict a sitting president is a big loving mood if I've ever seen one. It's like a random store clerk trying to explain to a lovely customer that they don't set the prices. Mueller did throw them a bone by clarifying that yes, Trump could be indicted after he leaves office. Which is a roundabout way of saying that there's sufficient evidence to charge Trump with a crime.
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# ? Jul 25, 2019 17:14 |
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Warmachine posted:Congress is trying to hedge itself on the choice of whether to impeach or not by trying to get Muller to make the decision. Which isn't remotely how the process is supposed to work, but these are the times we live in I guess. I feel sorry for Muller. Pelosi is the definition of a coward right now. Instead of leading, she's encouraging people to 'do what they need to do' for their districts while simultaneously saying the people not calling for impeachment are still upholding their oath of office. I'm not even saying she needs to push a vote or whip votes, but she very definitely should have been saying for a few months that her personal opinion is that Trump should be impeached. chitoryu12 posted:
This didn't get nearly the attention I thought it should, that was Mueller trying to tell the Dems to get off their asses without violating his own sense of ethics as a prosecutor. For him, it was almost a psychotic break.
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# ? Jul 25, 2019 18:40 |
Corsair Pool Boy posted:Pelosi is the definition of a coward right now. Instead of leading, she's encouraging people to 'do what they need to do' for their districts while simultaneously saying the people not calling for impeachment are still upholding their oath of office. She absolutely should be pushing for a vote. There's tons of evidence that Trump is unfit to be in office, but the only reason the establishment Dems have given for refusing to pursue impeachment is "There's not enough support." If you won't fulfill your duty because you're afraid that it'll be unpopular, you're admitting that either you're unfit to be in the position or that the laws and procedures are a complete sham.
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# ? Jul 25, 2019 20:54 |
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chitoryu12 posted:She absolutely should be pushing for a vote. There's tons of evidence that Trump is unfit to be in office, but the only reason the establishment Dems have given for refusing to pursue impeachment is "There's not enough support." If you won't fulfill your duty because you're afraid that it'll be unpopular, you're admitting that either you're unfit to be in the position or that the laws and procedures are a complete sham. Yeah that's fair. They claim there's no support for impeachment, but to get the support they need to start impeachment. It's just an impossible conundrum. Remember to Vote Blue No Matter Who!
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# ? Jul 25, 2019 22:35 |
Corsair Pool Boy posted:Yeah that's fair. Also, impeachment isn't something that's up to the citizens. You don't take a general vote on impeachment. It's a process done entirely by Congress. If you're not impeaching because the Republicans will rally around Trump and defend him, you may as well throw in the towel and give them full control of the country because clearly you don't care enough about following your duty.
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# ? Jul 25, 2019 22:39 |
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Corsair Pool Boy posted:Pelosi is the definition of a coward right now. Instead of leading, she's encouraging people to 'do what they need to do' for their districts while simultaneously saying the people not calling for impeachment are still upholding their oath of office. yeah, I suspect he had to have two glasses of warm milk when he got home to calm down
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chitoryu12 posted:Also, impeachment isn't something that's up to the citizens. You don't take a general vote on impeachment. It's a process done entirely by Congress. If you're not impeaching because the Republicans will rally around Trump and defend him, you may as well throw in the towel and give them full control of the country because clearly you don't care enough about following your duty. John Adams basically sums up my view here, if you replace the word "independence" with "impeachment." (Watch from 1:40 to 3:30)
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# ? Jul 26, 2019 00:15 |
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chitoryu12 posted:Also, impeachment isn't something that's up to the citizens. You don't take a general vote on impeachment. It's a process done entirely by Congress. If you're not impeaching because the Republicans will rally around Trump and defend him, you may as well throw in the towel and give them full control of the country because clearly you don't care enough about following your duty. It's all misplaced political concerns for sitting Democrats. They think a failed impeachment would make them look bad, when in reality the country is polarized enough that most people aren't going to move a muscle if impeachment fails. They probably also think they can just wait out the next year and Blue Wave the 2020 election. Which... ok. We saw how well that worked before.
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# ? Jul 30, 2019 19:59 |
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Plus there's the fact that with how slow impeachment works, it's basically just a formal gesture at this point. Unless Trump wins re-election in 2020 there just wouldn't be enough time to impeach him. Especially with how slow and lovely the Senate is.
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# ? Jul 30, 2019 20:06 |
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Xiahou Dun posted:Plus there's the fact that with how slow impeachment works, it's basically just a formal gesture at this point. Unless Trump wins re-election in 2020 there just wouldn't be enough time to impeach him. Especially with how slow and lovely the Senate is. I accept that impeachment would not be about removing the president, but it’s still worth doing as a formal way of presenting our case as to why he’s unfit for office ahead of the election. A lot of people want Democrats to show that they’re serious when they say he’s a criminal. Let’s get caught trying.
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Democrats are also terrified that if they successfully impeach Torp then the next Dem president could get impeached. Which, you know, already happened in the 90s. They're such sniveling cowards.
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Warmachine posted:It's all misplaced political concerns for sitting Democrats. They think a failed impeachment would make them look bad, when in reality the country is polarized enough that most people aren't going to move a muscle if impeachment fails. I feel like it's more that they are sure that they could not get an impeachment vote through the Senate, so they're worried about a failed impeachment looking like an exoneration and that affecting the vote. That is, IMO, a bunch of bullshit. The lines are pretty clearly drawn and I doubt there are a signfiicant amount of anti-Trump voters who would be swayed to his side by a failed impeachment. Right now it's more important to show that they're willing to put up a loving fight and they're absolutely failing at that.
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# ? Jul 30, 2019 22:03 |
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Khizan posted:I feel like it's more that they are sure that they could not get an impeachment vote through the Senate, so they're worried about a failed impeachment looking like an exoneration and that affecting the vote. I stopped just short of writing that theory because I came to the same conclusion you did; it's a horseshit reason.
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# ? Jul 30, 2019 22:37 |
Khizan posted:I feel like it's more that they are sure that they could not get an impeachment vote through the Senate, so they're worried about a failed impeachment looking like an exoneration and that affecting the vote. The establishment is so concerned about turning potential Republicans their way that they’ll throw out anyone left of center. They haven’t figured out that anyone who doesn’t already support Trump isn’t going to start.
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# ? Jul 30, 2019 22:44 |
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chitoryu12 posted:The establishment is so concerned about turning potential Republicans their way that they’ll throw out anyone left of center. They haven’t figured out that anyone who doesn’t already support Trump isn’t going to start. This is what all the people paid to think about this stuff are missing. There's a reason Trump's approval rating has been so inelastic since inauguration.
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# ? Jul 31, 2019 04:49 |
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Corsair Pool Boy posted:This is what all the people paid to think about this stuff are missing. There's a reason Trump's approval rating has been so inelastic since inauguration. The best we can hope for is a lack of enthusiasm among Trump "supporters" when election time comes around. They're not going to vote for Democrats anyway, but they might stay home in disgust.
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quote:To: Sirius Lee
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# ? Aug 2, 2019 03:31 |
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wow i loving hate that person
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# ? Aug 2, 2019 03:37 |
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I mean "points" I guess for brevity. They made if very clear right away that I could just ignore their views on anything.
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# ? Aug 2, 2019 03:39 |
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I don’t think members of minority groups in the United States need to go to college to learn to hate white people. That poo poo is on-the-job training.
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# ? Aug 2, 2019 04:24 |
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That guy has to be at least 75 years old
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# ? Aug 2, 2019 05:32 |
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quote:To: RomanSoldier19
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# ? Aug 2, 2019 12:17 |
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No you aren’t motherfucker
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# ? Aug 2, 2019 13:41 |
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The women engineers I've worked with have always been some of the smartest people I've ever met, if he can't handle professional disagreement then for public safety reasons alone the world is better off with him washing dishes.
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# ? Aug 2, 2019 14:07 |
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VitalSigns posted:The women engineers I've worked with have always been some of the smartest people I've ever met, if he can't handle professional disagreement then for public safety reasons alone the world is better off with him washing dishes.
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# ? Aug 2, 2019 17:10 |
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White House Confirms Global Campaign to Protect Homosexual Actsquote:Comment #6 Removed by Moderator quote:To: bigbob quote:To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks quote:To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks quote:To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks quote:To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks quote:To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks quote:To: plain talk quote:To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks quote:To: rfp1234 quote:To: plain talk quote:To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks I'd say that this thread having a few anti-Trump voices surprises me, but, well, it's Freep; as soon as Trump starts attacking another minority group they're going to go right back to waving their little flags and chanting "send her back".
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# ? Aug 2, 2019 18:08 |
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Crunch Buttsteak posted:White House Confirms Global Campaign to Protect Homosexual Acts The one thing Freep can unify around is anything that is anti-LGBT. This stuff used to shock me, and now it bores me.
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# ? Aug 2, 2019 19:06 |
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Crunch Buttsteak posted:To: rfp1234 Ah yes, these things that all really happened the way this freeper imagines.
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# ? Aug 2, 2019 19:17 |
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"cradle of freedom" was just the right cut of lunacy I needed to push me through the workday. Thanks!
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# ? Aug 2, 2019 19:27 |
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quote:I believe it starts with those leftist college classes such as black studies (hate white people), women’s studies (hate men) and gender studies (hate straight people).
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# ? Aug 2, 2019 21:07 |
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Wait til rockinsqranch finds out about Pence and horses.
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# ? Aug 2, 2019 21:11 |
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"Pubic tax payer funded Libraries" I know it's a pretty common typo, but it makes me laugh nonetheless.
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quote:There is nothing more seriously damaging to our national welfare and security that that of obstinately defying the determined Will of the Creator and His non-negotiable non-transformable Design and Purpose for the human creature. Yes, nailed it. THIS is the most damaging thing Trump has done.
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# ? Aug 3, 2019 06:13 |
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Fathis Munk posted:"Pubic tax payer funded Libraries" Waaaiiiitttt are you not paying it??? Am I the only clean shaved one down there?!!
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# ? Aug 3, 2019 06:29 |
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quote:To: DarthVader Just another day in America.
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# ? Aug 4, 2019 02:06 |
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It rules that we live in a country where rightwingers commit mass murder weekly and literally the only movement to stop them from organizing into an even greater force is routinely demonized by both political parties and the entire media.
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Mantis42 posted:It rules that we live in a country where rightwingers commit mass murder weekly and literally the only movement to stop them from organizing into an even greater force is routinely demonized by both political parties and the entire media. "moronic leftists who think guns are cool" isn't a political party, dude.
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# ? Aug 4, 2019 05:10 |
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Of course Antifa isn't a political party, they actually have positive results and are a mass, decentralized movement by the working class. The bourgeois parliamentarians aren't capable of or willing to stop the fash terrorists.
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