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It nearly always fails to save new passwords, generating a new password is far too many clicks, the locking behavior doesn’t necessarily follow how it’s configured, logging in from a new computer requires the hex “secret key”, uhh I’m sure there’s more. I switched from lastpass maybe a year ago and I’m constantly low-key annoyed to the point that I let the browser remember everything and only use 1password to share data between the iOS password store on my phone, the chrome one at home, and the chrome one at work
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Achmed Jones posted:It nearly always fails to save new passwords, generating a new password is far too many clicks, the locking behavior doesn’t necessarily follow how it’s configured, logging in from a new computer requires the hex “secret key”, uhh I’m sure there’s more. I switched from lastpass maybe a year ago and I’m constantly low-key annoyed to the point that I let the browser remember everything and only use 1password to share data between the iOS password store on my phone, the chrome one at home, and the chrome one at work For the first time, yes you need to enter the secret key to authenticate new devices. After that the master password only is required. However, there are ways around that by authenticating devices through the web-portal. I've never had it fail to save to new passwords nor had it fail to update passwords when I've changed them. I have no idea why your locking behavior isn't working. Maybe you're holding it wrong.
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Jul 27, 2019 19:46
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Are you using the One Password X, or the binary + extension version?
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Achmed Jones posted:It nearly always fails to save new passwords, generating a new password is far too many clicks, the locking behavior doesn’t necessarily follow how it’s configured, logging in from a new computer requires the hex “secret key”, uhh I’m sure there’s more. I switched from lastpass maybe a year ago and I’m constantly low-key annoyed to the point that I let the browser remember everything and only use 1password to share data between the iOS password store on my phone, the chrome one at home, and the chrome one at work I've literally never had any failure to save new passwords. Requiring the secret key on a new computer is intended because you're on a new unknown untrusted device. No clue if maybe the iPhone app is poo poo or not, the Android one works great with the Autofill API.
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Jul 27, 2019 21:14
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I tried 1password for a few weeks and then went back to KeepAss. On Firefox, I found it failing to remember passwords, creating duplicate entries, failing to recognize password fields and whatnot. Beta quality, not ready for production.
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Jul 27, 2019 21:59
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EssOEss posted:I tried 1password for a few weeks and then went back to KeepAss. On Firefox, I found it failing to remember passwords, creating duplicate entries, failing to recognize password fields and whatnot. Beta quality, not ready for production. ....are you people using janky 3rd party add-ons or something?? Mine has worked flawlessly for a year plus now.
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CLAM DOWN posted:....are you people using janky 3rd party add-ons or something?? Mine has worked flawlessly for a year plus now. There were a couple versions of the non X version of the extension that didn't save passwords, or had trouble auto filling for me. Probably about a year, year and a half ago.
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Another one not having any issues with password remembering and what not. Generate random password by clicking the icon in the password field and done running the full extension not the plugin to desktop app extension
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I've had issues with it not offering to save a site when I create a new account, or the first time I log into it on a device that has 1password installed.
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Stanley Pain posted:Are you using the One Password X, or the binary + extension version? Both, depending on what device I’m using
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My only complaint about 1Password is I have it configured to wait the maximum time before asking again for my master password (vs using Face ID or Touch ID), which is several weeks. And I swear every few days it just goes “lmao sorry bro, you gotta enter your master pass again for no reason”. I’m a good boy with a mega long pass phrase so every time I have to type it it’s very annoying. But maybe this is an Apple thing more than 1Password. Other than that I don’t have any usability complaints.
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Achmed Jones posted:Both, depending on what device I’m using I had one of your problems, but it was when I was using the binary+extension about 1.5 years ago. When I switched to X they went away.
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Jul 28, 2019 18:48
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There are two 1passwords? I never knew that. I wonder which one I used. I remember a desktop app existing.
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EssOEss posted:There are two 1passwords? I never knew that. I wonder which one I used. I remember a desktop app existing. There's a desktop app and a browser plugin.
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PBS posted:There's a desktop app and a browser plugin. That's one, and then there's the new 1P X which is entirely a browser extension with no desktop half
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I use the extension that requires the desktop client. I have trust issues with browser add-ons.
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I read all the responses and I guess password management is a complicated thing that will never be figured out. I'll try 1password out and see if I like it enough to recommend it. Really this is mostly about getting one dude off his stupid password excel sheet, I tell him all the time "just use keepass if you are doing that, its basically the same thing except more secure" and he just won't budge from his old habit. he doesn't want to change unless it's for good (which means a manager with team features). I'll play around with the self-hosted managers too (bitwarden, passbolt) since I'd like to self-host my own manager for personal reasons.
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Alpha Mayo posted:I read all the responses and I guess password management is a complicated thing that will never be figured out. I'll try 1password out and see if I like it enough to recommend it. It'd be nice to have a FIDO2 world where you just log in with your yubikey or faceid or whatever for everything, but realistically the Strawberrynets of the world will always have lovely authentication practices because ~*~*customer experience*~*~ trumps all other concerns in their website and POS design.
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Microsoft are doing some really interesting stuff re: passwordless. FIDO2 keys now work in Azure AD, and while the password is still required for now, the plan is to remove them.
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Thanks Ants posted:Microsoft are doing some really interesting stuff re: passwordless. FIDO2 keys now work in Azure AD, and while the password is still required for now, the plan is to remove them. I have passwordless auth turned on for my personal microsoft account with the app and it is fantastic. If this is the future, I can't wait.
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The Fool posted:I have passwordless auth turned on for my personal microsoft account with the app and it is fantastic. If this is the future, I can't wait. Have a read of https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/security/identity-protection/hello-for-business/passwordless-strategy Thanks Ants fucked around with this message at 20:47 on Jul 30, 2019 |
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Kerning Chameleon posted:realistically the Strawberrynets of the world will always have lovely authentication practices because ~*~*customer experience*~*~ trumps all other concerns in their website and POS design. piece of poo poo design alright
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Add another person who is completely happy with 1Password. It took me forever to get Chrome to completely drop all my old passwords and stop trying to autofill the passwords even though I said "please delete all the saved passwords", but once I got it all configured, I can't imagine using something other than it, it works well for me. My one pet peeve with is the tiny UX disparities between mobile versions. iOS has a fancy recents page on the favorites view of recently used ones, Android doesn't get that.
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on the topic of 1password are there any compelling reasons for me to update from my pre subscription 1password version 6?
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zhar posted:on the topic of 1password are there any compelling reasons for me to update from my pre subscription 1password version 6? At the moment, probably not. At some point in the future, they will no longer support your version of 1password through their browser extension. Also, if you haven't updated your vault format from way back when, you should upgrade to their newer opvault format - the really hypersecure 1password used to store all metadata as plain text.
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Watchtower is a moderately useful add-on in the newer versions, up to you if it's worth the cost
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I mean, not using vulnerable out-of-date products is a good practice too, imho
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zhar posted:on the topic of 1password are there any compelling reasons for me to update from my pre subscription 1password version 6? I'd say sync specifically designed for passwords and a year of deleted item recovery are pretty compelling, along with the watchtower analytics as mentioned.
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hmm, probably not then, there is something called watchtower already in 6, I sync and backup with icloud already and I've never bothered to empty the trash in it which is way more than a years worth. there aren't any cve's for my version so I think I'm happy to stick with it.
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Relevant https://blog.1password.com/never-better-time-to-upgrade-to-1password-7/ Basically, they won't support Catalina/Safari 13 https://blog.1password.com/safari-13-is-awesome-upgrade-from-1password-6/
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Is decrypting incidental internet communications illegal in US law? If you kick back in a internet cafe and collect a bunch of packets and then later on decrypt some of them without acting maliciously with them is that illegal or am I not understanding how networking works and asking a stupid question.
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Raenir Salazar posted:Is decrypting incidental internet communications illegal in US law? Intercepting private traffic to look at it on a network you don’t administrate is definitely breaking some kind of law.
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Raenir Salazar posted:If you kick back in a internet cafe and collect a bunch of packets and then later on decrypt some of them without acting maliciously with them is that illegal or am I not understanding how networking works and asking a stupid question. Even if this isn't illegal in the USA (I'm pretty sure it is), it's creepy and ethically disgusting.
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taqueso posted:I thought you had to circumvent some kind of security measure. encryption is totally a security measure
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I thought we were talking about an open wifi. I reread and yeah that's illegal.
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Raenir Salazar posted:Is decrypting incidental internet communications illegal in US law? Remember the ethical part in ethical hacking. Absolutely snooping on people's encrypted traffic is a crime, but it's morally wrong regardless. Don't do anything on a network you don't own or have permission to operate on.
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