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haveblue posted:NeverTrumpers arose in the late middle of 2016 to describe Republicans who had enough spine to declare that Trump was terrible but not enough to actually oppose him in any tangible way or take stands of principle like leaving the party.
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T. Bombastus posted:And now they all get work writing columns where they offer "friendly advice" to Democrats ahead of the 2020 election. Beating Trump is the most important thing in the world, so the Dems need to tack right to pick up moderate voters like uhh David Brooks and Bret Stephens. And not even mention policies with >60% support, for some reason
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Angry_Ed posted:No it was a bunch of Republicans saying they would never vote for or support Trump...then promptly did anyway. haveblue posted:NeverTrumpers arose in the late middle of 2016 to describe Republicans who had enough spine to declare that Trump was terrible but not enough to actually oppose him in any tangible way or take stands of principle like leaving the party. Owlofcreamcheese posted:Trump was a largely unpopular candidate. He 'won' the primary with 44% of the vote, with a lot of super tuesday wins being in the 30s. There was a ton of resistance to him and a ton of "anyone can win as long as it's not him". Like that doesn't translate to republican politicians suddenly being democrats instead or suddenly voting against conservative policy, but the "everyone loves trump" thing isn't really how it went. He won the nomination sort of by default in a split race where most people voted for someone else but he won because no one someone else got more. I am not sure why I remember Never Trumpers being dems. I knew he was unpopular among some republicans but I don't remember those republicans talking about it. Thanks for clearing that up.
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skylined! posted:Ya. Saying that you grew up in Atlanta and [therefor can make the claim that] it’s not a part of the Deep South says waaayyyyyy more about you and your experiences then it does about Atlanta. john lewis grew up in southern alabama and went to college in nashville, he only ended up in atlanta as an adult as part of his career in pollitical activism this isn't to argue with you, it's just that's how deep south he is. he's from a part of the rural south which was heavily black Mr. Fall Down Terror fucked around with this message at 15:13 on Jul 31, 2019 |
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Caros posted:Thanks. I needed some white hot rage this morning. Kind of feels like America needs some nationwide PSA about only calling police in instances were the need is for people to be killed (ie. never). I mean, we're at the point now were it feels like police kill more folks than criminals do. Another 20-30 years and we'll have to call the criminals to protect us from the police.
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Make no mistake, NeverTrumpers really do not like Trump, but none of them have the moral fiber to actually take a stand about it, BECAUSE HE WON. The second he loses, or is impeached, or is no longer in office for any reason whatsoever they will turn on him quicker than you can ever imagine. And they will try to gaslight us all into believing that they NEVER supported him, NEVER enabled him, and always took a moral stand against him to protect Conservative Values™. It's a bit like if their favorite NFL team was going to sign a racist, misogynist, and rapist to be their QB. Let's call this hypothetical quarterback "Ben Roethlisberger". They're gonna take a stand and say they don't support him and he doesn't represent the values of their team. And then once he starts winning football games, they shut up about it and cheer just as loud as everyone else in the stands.
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DandyLion posted:Kind of feels like America needs some nationwide PSA about only calling police in instances were the need is for people to be killed (ie. never). This would not go the way you think and would hardly discourage Becky's from calling the cops since killing black people is just a sad consequence of not following the rules of where to hold a barbque in their worldview.
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skylined! posted:Ya. Saying that you grew up in Atlanta and [therefor can make the claim that] it’s not a part of the Deep South says waaayyyyyy more about you and your experiences then it does about Atlanta. The media perspective of much of the country is basically HERE BE DRAGONS. The Deep South is part of that imaginary terrain to them. Atlanta isn't the Deep South to them because they have some familiarity with Atlanta and they didn't see any Dragons anywhere.
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Mahoning posted:Make no mistake, NeverTrumpers really do not like Trump, but none of them have the moral fiber to actually take a stand about it, BECAUSE HE WON. The second he loses, or is impeached, or is no longer in office for any reason whatsoever they will turn on him quicker than you can ever imagine. And they will try to gaslight us all into believing that they NEVER supported him, NEVER enabled him, and always took a moral stand against him to protect Conservative Values™. I laughed because I used to live in Pittsburgh, and that part.
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SickZip posted:The media perspective of much of the country is basically HERE BE DRAGONS. Atlanta isn't the Deep South to them because they have some familiarity with Atlanta, they've been to Atlanta and they didn't see any Dragons anywhere. This guy very specifically DID see dragons. https://twitter.com/andrewperezdc/status/1156567199726940160?s=21
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Mahoning posted:...  Well done.
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DandyLion posted:Kind of feels like America needs some nationwide PSA about only calling police in instances were the need is for people to be killed (ie. never). What makes you think that it’s ignorance and not intended? White people treat the cops like their personal customer service agents when it comes to minorities. Literally nobody is making those spurious calls out of good faith for public safety purposes.
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As someone who didn't vote for Trump, actually left the Republican party, and is pretty much lined up to cast my first Democratic presidential vote ever in 2020 - I don't think it's unreasonable to be interested in how the primaries are shaping up, given the ideological differences between the candidates. Being concerned about policies that strip people of employer insurance options (for example) isn't some double-secret headfake to triple-own the dems - another Trump term would be horrible for everyone, so running a candidate without broadly unpopular positions is a good thing.
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Caros posted:Thanks. I needed some white hot rage this morning. Years ago now, back in like 2008 after I started a new job, I was hit by a car while riding my bike and thrown across the road. When I came to, two cops were pulling me off the road onto the grass. This happened about 100 yards from the local police station. I felt ok, you know, thanks to shock and I had to be to work in a couple hours. I was worried because I had no way to pay for medical bills or down time and that I would be fired if I missed a day so early on. So after I refused to go to the hospital the cops on the scene started threatening me to go. Even as far as to threaten restraining me and taking me there themselves. The lady that hit me was having panic attacks because she hadn't seen me conscious, she thought she'd killed me. I don't know what the cops were saying to her, but it certainly wasn't the loud demands they were making to me and it was confusing me because I was the victim. After about, I guess, 45 minutes, I was sent on my way after the paramedics had done their thing. That's my police brutality story. No where near as bad as this dude, but it baffled me for some time why I was being threatened and yelled at when it was me that got hit. As for straight up harassment stories I have lots thanks to being a poor living in a town of well off assholes that leaned really right SocketWrench fucked around with this message at 15:25 on Jul 31, 2019 |
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Jul 31, 2019 15:21
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Are these emojis available cause they're neat
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TheDisreputableDog posted:As someone who didn't vote for Trump, actually left the Republican party, and is pretty much lined up to cast my first Democratic presidential vote ever in 2020 - I don't think it's unreasonable to be interested in how the primaries are shaping up, given the ideological differences between the candidates. Being concerned about policies that strip people of employer insurance options (for example) isn't some double-secret headfake to triple-own the dems - another Trump term would be horrible for everyone, so running a candidate without broadly unpopular positions is a good thing. https://twitter.com/IdahoBones/status/1156557672348606464
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Hakarne posted:This is a fantastic idea and I think you should keep working on and expanding this. Maybe it's better on desktop, but I feel like the sources should be more prominent on the mobile version. I did eventually find it in the drop down, but I could easily see someone dismissing it because it's just a disembodied graph. Slap that authoritative source right up front for easy viewing! Thanks. I've added links to the sources to the blurb at the bottom after you make your guess. FronzelNeekburm posted:This is interesting, but it would probably help to show the scale on the X axis after the user makes a choice. Some of them are kind of hard to parse when it's a tweet from July, I pick something to the right of it on the chart, and it says, "No, you picked February!" Yep. Unfortunately, labeling the axis requires making a call to redraw the entire chart, which will lose the trump head and the location of the user's selection so the lack of labels on the axis is out of pure laziness on my part not wanting to code around that. I'll fix it this afternoon after work. Sub Par fucked around with this message at 15:38 on Jul 31, 2019 |
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TheDisreputableDog posted:As someone who didn't vote for Trump, actually left the Republican party, and is pretty much lined up to cast my first Democratic presidential vote ever in 2020 - I don't think it's unreasonable to be interested in how the primaries are shaping up, given the ideological differences between the candidates. Being concerned about policies that strip people of employer insurance options (for example) isn't some double-secret headfake to triple-own the dems - another Trump term would be horrible for everyone, so running a candidate without broadly unpopular positions is a good thing. https://twitter.com/topherspiro/status/1156555853446733825?s=21
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This is such a missed point about not paying for private insurance when you have publicly funded medical care. How do you pithily communicate this that it's loving good? Bernie's quote about being 'delighted to pay higher taxes' completely cuts off the '...because they don't have to pay for their own healthcare' part. God it's so drat frustrating.
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ewiley posted:This is such a missed point about not paying for private insurance when you have publicly funded medical care. How do you pithily communicate this that it's loving good? Bernie's quote about being 'delighted to pay higher taxes' completely cuts off the '...because they don't have to pay for their own healthcare' part. each time bernie and warren made this point they were interrupted a hundred times with BUT WILL YOU RAISE TAXES? ADMIT IT! ADMIT YOU WILL RAISE TAXES!! seemingly designed solely to give republicans clips to use in their future ads
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ewiley posted:This is such a missed point about not paying for private insurance when you have publicly funded medical care. How do you pithily communicate this that it's loving good? Bernie's quote about being 'delighted to pay higher taxes' completely cuts off the '...because they don't have to pay for their own healthcare' part. A bunch of dumb white people are basically getting scammed by their work with "good benefits" instead of salary, and if the government pays for it, well then I won't have better benefits than everyone else!!!
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Party Plane Jones posted:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1156574362918686720 NO DOWN, ONLY UP!
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SocketWrench posted:Never thought I'd see the day when the president would take the podium and shout "NO U!"
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theflyingorc posted:A bunch of dumb white people are basically getting scammed by their work with "good benefits" instead of salary, and if the government pays for it, well then I won't have better benefits than everyone else!!! Now you do have to admit that if employers suddenly could get 0$ health insurance for workers there's no way they're raising salaries right away
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Awwww he deleted his tweet. https://twitter.com/jonathanweisman/status/1156571898433679360 And he's getting ratio'd to hell on that one too.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/JoeMyGod/status/1156576737368649734quote:Along U.S. 64 in Murphy, a billboard advertising a gun store mocks “the 4 Horsemen” — freshmen U.S. Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ilhad Oman, Rashida Tlaib and Ayanna Pressley. The “Cherokee Guns” tag at the bottom (it’s a mile ahead on the right) almost seems like an afterthought. His Facebook page for the gun store quote:Alright my fellow Infidels for Trump…due to OVERWHELMING demand…you may come by the shop (next week) and get your very own FOUR HORSEMEN COMETH STICKER…simple…eat a piece of bacon…tell us you’re voting for Trump in 2020…then get your limited edition bumper sticker!! (While supplies last!) Snowflakes and Liberals are not eligible…sorry…
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ewiley posted:Now you do have to admit that if employers suddenly could get 0$ health insurance for workers there's no way they're raising salaries right away Oh, of course. But that's not the part they'll be mad about, it's that they don't have something to lord over other people.
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Yep, like my post explicitly said, and the article my post linked to pointed out - policies that remove private options aren't popular.
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Faustian Bargain posted:Really? Do you not remember the no puppet you're the puppet thing? Yeah, but that was primaries. And Hilary, among republicans, has a rep for being controlled by others while controlling those others because the right is dumb. This was just out of loving nowhere
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This is incredibly disingenuous. The poll that this guy is touting is a crap poll that frames the difference between Medicare for all and their Medicare extra or medicare for america or whatever other name they want to call it exclusively through the lens of choice. Of course if you say "you can have this plan, or be able to chose between this plan and what you have" you're going to get people picking the one with more choice. But the issue is that the single biggest item in terms of why healthcare costs in the US are so much higher than elsewhere is because of overhead of dealing with multiple different networks, billing and coding systems. Bernie's medicare for all eliminates a lot of private insurance not for the hell of it, but because that is where the savings are. Disingenuous hacks like Topher Spiro know they can't argue that their medicare plan is actually better in terms of cost or coverage, so he has to constantly troll about popularity and how hard it'd be to pass M4A. Of course, he also hopes that you don't notice that his employer, CAP, takes a lot of money from AHIP, the health insurance association. Of course, by this point people should realize that whatever the popularity levels are now, things will change once they actually are discussed. You'd think that after seeing Romneycare go from super popular with Republicans to absolutely toxic as Obamacare people would push for the policy that is actually the best instead of trying to triangulate popularity.
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It owns as a white dude that I can not be racist by saying "I'm not racist".
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/JoeMyGod/status/1156576737368649734 The audacity of talking about how the people with their foreign religion are dangerous IN CHEROKEE, NORTH CAROLINA CHEROKEE
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/JoeMyGod/status/1156576737368649734 Don't you know? You can say whatever you want as long as you call it your opinion. Calling muslim women terrorist sympathizers for no reason? Just my opinion. Riling up people while handing them out guns? My opinion. Supporting a racial war? Just my opinion, why are you so worked up?
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Kobach has released his first senate ad https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8OWFiUGCp8 quote:Kansas GOP Senate candidate Kris Kobach blamed his gubernatorial loss last year on “propaganda” and is vowing to take a new approach to his Senate bid. “I’d failed to anticipate just how powerful the propaganda would be,” the former Kansas secretary of State said in a five-minute video released by his campaign.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/JoeMyGod/status/1156576737368649734 Genuinely surprised he didn't offer to sell bullets dipped in pig's blood.
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