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Making Hercules an Eternal in the movies wouldn't be all that surprising.
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Jul 31, 2019 05:51
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You'd think that would have come up last week when they announced the full cast. I love Herc but he's not a big enough character that they're keeping it under wraps.
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Jul 31, 2019 06:05
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Roth posted:Making Hercules an Eternal in the movies wouldn't be all that surprising. It would definitely confuse the poo poo out of people if the Eternals are meant to be completely distinct from mythological gods like Thor.
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Jul 31, 2019 06:09
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Roth posted:Making Hercules an Eternal in the movies wouldn't be all that surprising. Have you read Incredible Hercules? This is a minor plot early on in the run.
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Jul 31, 2019 06:34
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Rhyno posted:Have you read Incredible Hercules? This is a minor plot early on in the run. Two years ago, and I don't remember what I had for dinner two days ago.
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Jul 31, 2019 06:36
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I always liked Herc but doesn't MCU Thor's personality kind of make him redundant
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Jul 31, 2019 08:37
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I think Herc's popularity in the comics was always that he was the fun god next to Thor being the serious god.
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Jul 31, 2019 09:22
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I could see them blurring the line between Eternals and gods.
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Jul 31, 2019 15:10
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Eternals are more demigods than anything, no?
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Jul 31, 2019 15:20
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The mcu line is already pretty blurry, between the asgardians, elders, celestials and whatever else is out there.
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Jul 31, 2019 16:32
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Rhyno posted:Have you read Incredible Hercules? This is a minor plot early on in the run. i havent read it, is he actually supposed to be an eternal? because i was under the impression that he definitely is part of the actual literal olympion pantheon
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Jul 31, 2019 16:39
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site posted:i havent read it, is he actually supposed to be an eternal? because i was under the impression that he definitely is part of the actual literal olympion pantheon SPOILERS Herc and Amadeus are on a quest and they run into the recently revived Eternals who think he is Gilgamesh. Ikaris and Herc fight while they try to convince Hercules that he isn't who he thinks he is. The Eternals end up being wrong It's a great run, everyone go read it!
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Jul 31, 2019 16:47
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The Hercules/Eternals talk just makes me think of a badass scene from What If the Avengers Lost Galactic Storm. It's one of those What Ifs that gradually kills off most of the cast and there's a scene where a blind Hercules and Sersi are taking on an army of Kree soldiers with Herc telling her, "LET US SHOW THEM HOW IMMORTALS DIE!"
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Jul 31, 2019 17:36
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https://twitter.com/outmagazine/status/1156610232665010177
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Jul 31, 2019 18:02
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Sera time, baby 😎
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Jul 31, 2019 18:07
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Retro Futurist posted:You'd think that would have come up last week when they announced the full cast. I love Herc but he's not a big enough character that they're keeping it under wraps. well, Sersi wasn't in the cast announcement either, nor are any of the Deviants, so you never know but yeah, Hercules was just speculation based on a rumored set of character descriptions
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Jul 31, 2019 18:22
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I'd think Marvel would shy away from a character they don't 100% own the universal rights to. Edit: Meaning the assorted versions of Hercules on tv and film.
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Jul 31, 2019 18:26
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Rhyno posted:I'd think Marvel would shy away from a character they don't 100% own the universal rights to. You mean like Thor? They don't own the rights to the concept of Thor either.
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Jul 31, 2019 18:29
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Vince MechMahon posted:You mean like Thor? They don't own the rights to the concept of Thor either. Fair, but Marvel Thor is far more defined than any other version and also, what versions have any sort of PC penetration? There was just a Hercules flick a couple years ago starring the Rock.
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Jul 31, 2019 18:36
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Barry Convex posted:well, Sersi wasn't in the cast announcement either, nor are any of the Deviants, so you never know Feels like that character description would apply to Gilgamesh, the way he was described at comic con.
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Jul 31, 2019 18:38
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Rhyno posted:Fair, but Marvel Thor is far more defined than any other version and also, what versions have any sort of PC penetration? There was just a Hercules flick a couple years ago starring the Rock. Didn't that movie remove all supernatural elements and totally bomb?
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Jul 31, 2019 18:41
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mikeraskol posted:Feels like that character description would apply to Gilgamesh, the way he was described at comic con. Well hey in the Incredible Hercules story I previously mentioned they slot Gilgamesh into Herc's past and they were mistaken for each other. So that works. Vince MechMahon posted:Didn't that movie remove all supernatural elements and totally bomb? And? That doesn't mean people forgot it. And there's always Hercules in New York.
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Jul 31, 2019 18:42
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there was a hercules with the rock?
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Jul 31, 2019 18:44
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site posted:there was a hercules with the rock? Yeah it was awful but it happened. It looks like Paramount owns the rights to use the name in film right now so Marvel ever moved forward he'd never get a headlined film.
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Jul 31, 2019 18:47
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Rhyno posted:And? That doesn't mean people forgot it. And there's always Hercules in New York. I don't think anyone remembers this movie. The one with the Rock. Hercules in New York is clearly a timeless classic.
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Jul 31, 2019 18:47
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Rhyno posted:Yeah it was awful but it happened. It looks like Paramount owns the rights to use the name in film right now so Marvel ever moved forward he'd never get a headlined film. Wait. I don't think that's how it works.
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Jul 31, 2019 18:48
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That actually makes me think, I wonder if Disney has pursued the other classic action guys for roles since Stallone cameoed. I'd love to see Arnie pop up.
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Jul 31, 2019 18:49
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Ok, I'll do it. I was Peaseblossom in Midsummer Night's Dream when I was nine and Gaston's awful goblin from Beauty and the Beast when I was 16 so I've got the chops.
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Jul 31, 2019 19:00
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Hey SA comic book nerds, I only watch the movies. What character would this potentially be for?
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Jul 31, 2019 19:41
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the only trans woman in the marvel comic universe is Sera, the wife of Angela, so she would be the obvious choice. unless this is someone brand new
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Jul 31, 2019 19:43
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It's gonna rip if they bring in Angela too. Holy poo poo this flick could rule so hard.
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Jul 31, 2019 19:48
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Rhyno posted:It's gonna rip if they bring in Angela too. Holy poo poo this flick could rule so hard. If she does who gets the money, Gaiman?
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Jul 31, 2019 20:18
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He sold her to Marvel so he probably gets a creator credit and a decent royalty check.
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Jul 31, 2019 20:28
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site posted:the only trans woman in the marvel comic universe is Sera, the wife of Angela, so she would be the obvious choice. unless this is someone brand new There's also, uh, Tong the moloid child, an adorable character from the Fraction/Allred FF. And, a quick google search unfortunately turns, up, two rapists who "turned trans" after being castrated by the Vulture, thanks a million Ron loving Zimmerman.
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Jul 31, 2019 20:49
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site posted:there was a hercules with the rock? I never saw it, but from what I heard, the trailers and commercials showed all this badass, crazy fantasy stuff and then the movie shows it all in the first few minutes to go, "This is what people think Hercules did, but it's all exaggeration. Here's some mundane bullshit of what REALLY happened."
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Jul 31, 2019 21:03
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Macaluso posted:Hey SA comic book nerds, I only watch the movies. What character would this potentially be for? Off the top of my head, the Jessicas I can think of are Jessica Jones and Jessica Drew and I don't think they would cast a trans actress for either of them. I mean, I would be fine with them casting a trans actress, but I don't see Marvel doing that.
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Jul 31, 2019 21:14
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Gavok posted:I never saw it, but from what I heard, the trailers and commercials showed all this badass, crazy fantasy stuff and then the movie shows it all in the first few minutes to go, "This is what people think Hercules did, but it's all exaggeration. Here's some mundane bullshit of what REALLY happened." It's also noteworthy for The Rock getting loving massive to play the role. Even by his own standards he was absolutely jacked.
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Jul 31, 2019 21:20
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He still does some silly stuff like push over a 100 foot statue and hiptoss a horse.
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Jul 31, 2019 21:36
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The only other trans character in all of Marvel I can think of (besides those already mentioned) is Koi Boi. That seems.. a little low, Marvel. Maybe get on that.
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Jul 31, 2019 21:48
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asecondduck posted:Off the top of my head, the Jessicas I can think of are Jessica Jones and Jessica Drew and I don't think they would cast a trans actress for either of them. I mean, I would be fine with them casting a trans actress, but I don't see Marvel doing that. iirc the Ultimate universe Jessica Drew had a lot of themes of gender dysphoria even though I don't think she identified as trans. Using that as inspiration could be interesting, but probably unlikely if they're using Jess in the Spider-Verse spinoff.
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