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is Shaymin even any good as a pokemon
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Jul 31, 2019 18:03
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indigi posted:is Shaymin even any good as a pokemon Sky Forme is real good. Or was the last time I paid any attention to it in Gen IV
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Jul 31, 2019 18:05
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Yeah she’s an Uber without any chance of getting unbanned from OU.
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Jul 31, 2019 18:05
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indigi posted:is Shaymin even any good as a pokemon 127 base speed + 120 special attack + double chance of effect procs means you are a good Pokemon
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Jul 31, 2019 18:11
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sky forme looks like trash but the normal one is v cute
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Jul 31, 2019 18:16
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TheKingofSprings posted:127 base speed + 120 special attack + double chance of effect procs means you are a good Pokemon Plus Seed Flare.
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Jul 31, 2019 18:18
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indigi posted:at least post a link or quote some choice meltdowns I'd love to but from the reaction I've seen here already it'll cause a smoldering tire fire in the thread so just check the reaches of Google I suppose?  TheKingofSprings posted:“Check out these kids getting mad, while we’re at it let’s bring back a topic that’s never going to see a resolution because I want to see more people get mad”, said the poster having an increasingly normal one Buddy, just point on the doll where the Dexit posters touched you, jesus
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Jul 31, 2019 19:26
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I cannot wait for opinions on the anime to do a sharp 180 when Ash inevitably loses At the very least, Gladion may throw him a bone by deferring the Masked Royal exhibition match over to him instead, as he doesn't care (or know) about Royal, so there'd be no point in fighting him
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Jul 31, 2019 19:34
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Vinylshadow posted:I cannot wait for opinions on the anime to do a sharp 180 when Ash inevitably loses You say this as if we're not expecting Ash to trip and fall on his face in the final stretch. That's been his modus operandi since the series loving started.
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Jul 31, 2019 21:02
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https://twitter.com/PokemonGoApp/status/1156656943504793600 Ya know... I feel like they maybe should've gone back at some point and changed Rayquaza's shiny colors, or at the very least change the lips
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Jul 31, 2019 21:16
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Shiny Whimsicott is problematic as well, especially because of the whole cotton thing.
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Jul 31, 2019 21:21
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Flopsy posted:You say this as if we're not expecting Ash to trip and fall on his face in the final stretch. That's been his modus operandi since the series loving started. Hey he didn't do anything wrong in XY, he made no really bad mistakes, just ran into the writers OC do not steal
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Jul 31, 2019 21:41
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:Hey he didn't do anything wrong in XY, he made no really bad mistakes, just ran into the writers OC do not steal That's the point. He's a character at the mercy of the writers whims and they are never going to let him win. It's so overdone at this point it's not exactly a shocker when it happens.
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Aug 1, 2019 01:32
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Flopsy posted:That's the point. He's a character at the mercy of the writers whims and they are never going to let him win. It's so overdone at this point it's not exactly a shocker when it happens. I mean, he won the Orange League and the Battle Frontier.
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Aug 1, 2019 01:58
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Macaluso posted:Ya know... I feel like they maybe should've gone back at some point and changed Rayquaza's shiny colors, or at the very least change the lips If Rayquaza was humanoid instead of serpentine then there might be a case...
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Aug 1, 2019 02:01
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I forget, does the concept of an Elite Four even exist in the anime? I know that at least a few members from various regions pop up from time to time but I don’t know if the official group has ever been mentioned.
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Aug 1, 2019 02:03
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Silver2195 posted:I mean, he won the Orange League and the Battle Frontier. Anime nerds ignore anything for the sake of complaining.
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Aug 1, 2019 02:11
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Larryb posted:I forget, does the concept of an Elite Four even exist in the anime? I know that at least a few members from various regions pop up from time to time but I don’t know if the official group has ever been mentioned. They exist, but there's no elite 4 challenge because it would be unrealistic for these strong trainers to just wait around in 4 separate rooms in the off chance that someone with eight badges would challenge them. That's why they have leagues instead. So they exist as really strong trainers who trounce anyone who challenges them, but there are quite a few that never had an anime appearance.
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Aug 1, 2019 02:14
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Larryb posted:I forget, does the concept of an Elite Four even exist in the anime? I know that at least a few members from various regions pop up from time to time but I don’t know if the official group has ever been mentioned. Yes. It’s explained in DP that the Elite Four, Champion (or Champion Master, as they’re called in the anime), and League Tournament winners of a given region compete in something called the Champion League. Edit: The details of how you become an Elite Four member in the anime are somewhat unclear to me, though. Winning a League Tournament is strongly implied or maybe outright stated to be a prerequisite, but are you required to specialize in 1-2 types, or do the Elite Four members we meet just happen to be type specialists because they feel like it? Silver2195 fucked around with this message at 02:30 on Aug 1, 2019 |
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Aug 1, 2019 02:14
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Silver2195 posted:Yes. It’s explained in DP that the Elite Four, Champion (or Champion Master, as they’re called in the anime), and League Tournament winners of a given region compete in something called the Champion League. Elite Four members who've appeared in the anime main canon include: Lorelei (was named Prima in the dub, apparently to match the # of syllables, appeared in the Orange Islands, I believe?), Bruno, Lance, Agatha, Koga (but only as a Gym leader in the first season, has not appeared as an Elite Four member), Drake, all four of the Sinnoh Elite Four, Caitlin, Siebold, and Malva. Alola of course doesn't have an Elite Four, but I've heard that supposedly the current tournament is meant to determine who Alola's Elite Four will be?
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Aug 1, 2019 02:35
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All of the members that made up the Alola Elite Four in the game have shown up in the anime though (in fact, all but one of them are actually semi regular characters as well). And no, the tournament has nothing to do with any sort of Elite Four as far as I remember.
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Aug 1, 2019 02:46
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Silver2195 posted:I mean, he won the Orange League and the Battle Frontier. Orange league was an anime only league for a filler arc and as far as I can tell Battle Frontier isn't actually an official league it's a battle facility. And I'll accept this is just me nitpicking details here. But what I'm saying is him winning is such a rarity that I don't even recall those previous two times. And lets be honest what impact did they have in the long run? Did Ash get smarter? Did they change his character in any way? No? There you go. Status quo is God and X&Y destroyed any hopes I had it would ever get better.
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Aug 1, 2019 02:54
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Why doesn't ash just win all the leagues? Why doesn't wile e coyote ever just eat the road runner?
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Aug 1, 2019 03:00
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Seriously though, how would letting Ash win a league actually change anything? They could always just have him continue his journey onto the next region regardless. It doesn’t need to happen every time but a few victories here and there wouldn’t hurt.
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Aug 1, 2019 03:03
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What would winning give him? Wile E chases for the chase. Ash battles for the battles.
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Aug 1, 2019 03:05
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BlazetheInferno posted:Elite Four members who've appeared in the anime main canon include: Lorelei (was named Prima in the dub, apparently to match the # of syllables, appeared in the Orange Islands, I believe?), Bruno, Lance, Agatha, Koga (but only as a Gym leader in the first season, has not appeared as an Elite Four member), Drake, all four of the Sinnoh Elite Four, Caitlin, Siebold, and Malva. I always found it weird that some Elite Four members never appear in the anime. I guess Will is too boring (you could do a storyline about Prima resigning from the Elite Four and her younger brother Will joining, but that's about it). Karen could have been fun, though. I made a previous post about how the talking Murkrow from the games that gives you the password was a missed opportunity for the anime; they could have given Butch and Cassidy their own Meowth equivalent that was initially mined for comedy but turned out to be a spy infiltrating Team Rocket on behalf of Karen all along. Koga appears in the anime, but as a result of him only appearing as a Gym Leader, Janine does not. There was actually a Battle Frontier episode where our heroes visited a ninja school near Fuschia City, which would have been a perfect opportunity to introduce Janine, but they didn't take it. The Hoenn Elite Four other than Drake are just never mentioned. Maybe that's for the best, as Phoebe and Glacia are really boring characters. Sidney is potentially fun, though, even if he isn't very complex.
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Aug 1, 2019 03:34
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I guess the general format of the anime really prevents them from making a lasting impact. They might get a token episode where the episode revolves around how awesome they are, but don't really move the narrative forward. The Sinnoh Elite four is a good example as as far as I'm aware, three of them (Lucian, Aaron and Bertha) show up in filler episodes while Flint is the only one who is important to Diamond and Pearl's plot (since he has a close relationship with Volkner).
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Aug 1, 2019 03:39
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:What would winning give him? It would put lipstick on the pig.
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Aug 1, 2019 04:13
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Silver2195 posted:I mean, he won the Orange League and the Battle Frontier. He's also won a million other smaller tournaments and competitions and consistently places top sixteen or higher in League tourneys (which should be considered a huge feat in itself), but everyone has excuses on why none of that matters. Silver2195 posted:Koga appears in the anime, but as a result of him only appearing as a Gym Leader, Janine does not. There was actually a Battle Frontier episode where our heroes visited a ninja school near Fuschia City, which would have been a perfect opportunity to introduce Janine, but they didn't take it. They didn't really do much with the whole idea of Ash revisiting Kanto in that arc, did that? Kind of disappointing.
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Aug 1, 2019 08:13
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Vandar posted:He's also won a million other smaller tournaments and competitions and consistently places top sixteen or higher in League tourneys (which should be considered a huge feat in itself), but everyone has excuses on why none of that matters. They did almost literally nothing with it, not a single character outside the main cast from season 1 reappeared that I can remember.
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Aug 1, 2019 08:17
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Flopsy posted:anime only
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Aug 1, 2019 08:40
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You know, I threw this together years and years ago when I got peeved at people throwing the old "Red vs Ash" comparison image designed to make Ash look pathetic. I just kinda wrote in my own comments in bold beneath the base image's "comparisons".
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Aug 1, 2019 10:42
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Sir this is the Battle Buffet. So do continue
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Aug 1, 2019 12:02
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BlazetheInferno posted:You know, I threw this together years and years ago when I got peeved at people throwing the old "Red vs Ash" comparison image designed to make Ash look pathetic. I just kinda wrote in my own comments in bold beneath the base image's "comparisons". You're not the only person to point this out.
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Aug 1, 2019 13:50
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Any evidence that refutes my position is a different canon.
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Aug 1, 2019 14:26
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I'm crying rear end-pull
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Aug 1, 2019 16:08
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Nidoking is too small. Furret is exactly long enough.
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Aug 1, 2019 16:34
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Larryb posted:Seriously though, how would letting Ash win a league actually change anything? They could always just have him continue his journey onto the next region regardless. It doesn’t need to happen every time but a few victories here and there wouldn’t hurt. That’s part of the problem: winning really wouldn’t change anything with Ash. If he won, he’d get a shiny trophy for his room, then go right to the next region with nothing but Pikachu. He’d then repeat his old pattern, relearn the same lessons and still act and be treated as little better than a rookie. We mock Ash not just for losing, but because we have long ago realized that the journey we were at one point invested in will never have any payoff. The anime needs to keep advertising the games and is terrified of making a new main character to replace the current one, so Ash is left in a state that demands that his journey can never reach any climax and growth can only stay in the smallest ways. If we had someone new each time, things would be different, but the marketing department demands that the show play it safe and wait for the audience to recycle itself rather than risk losing whoever they think is that attached to Ash at this point.
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Aug 1, 2019 16:37
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Exactly, so what’s the harm in just letting him win a tournament or two a bit more often then? The status quo will still remain the same regardless (Ash drops off his Pokemon somewhere, he and Pikachu head to the next region with Team Rocket following close behind, and the cycle starts all over again).
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Aug 1, 2019 16:40
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The only series he acted and was treated like a rookie in recent times was Black and White. Ever since he's been fairly cool and collected and everyone treats him with some reverence. In XY he starts out by saving a Berserk Garchomp from itself on national television because of how experienced and empathetic he is, and in Sun/Moon he starts with a local God coming down to give him a bracelet because he's the chosen one and everybody at the school being in awe. John Wick of Dogs fucked around with this message at 16:50 on Aug 1, 2019 |
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Aug 1, 2019 16:44
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