Roth posted:So the same audience targeted by DC and Marvel then Oh yeah. That does explain it
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very cool gimmick of "guy who only reads cooking mangas so he can tsk tsk people for thinking that all manga are not as wholesome as cooking mangas, and complain that there aren't more western comics about cooking"
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The past two "anime derails" I've started only involved anime because somebody else brought it up. I made a joke about the X-Men from the past being Britney Spears fans and somebody was like, "You're just saying that because Britney Spears' son drew Goku once!". Just now, I was engaging in a preexisting conversation about the prevalence of rape in American superhero comics and suddenly people were all like, "oh what so manga doesn't have any rape in it?" And I will never apologize for complaining about the lack of western comics about cooking, because that's a serious issue that should concern anyone who cares about comics
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Jul 29, 2019 04:22
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Gyros In Crisis House of Eggs
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Alaois posted:very cool gimmick of "guy who only reads cooking mangas so he can tsk tsk people for thinking that all manga are not as wholesome as cooking mangas, and complain that there aren't more western comics about cooking" This reminds me that Image canceled flavor.
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I remember one of the first manga I read that wasn't a major shonen series was a short romance series called Bitter Virgin that I just kinda stumbled upon. The entire premise was about how the main girl was afraid of pursuing a love life because she had been repeatedly sexually abused by her stepfather and had to have two abortions with her mother calling her a slut and a whore for getting pregnant. This is kind of half remembered from reading it in high school, so I have no idea if it holds up as even remotely tasteful as that kind of subject matter can be in a manga series.
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Teenage Fansub posted:Gyros In Crisis Doomsday Cook
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Sous Videsion Tex-Mexiles Teen Tacos Crisis on Infinite (yo)'Ghurts
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Archyduchess posted:Thanks both, I found "Marvel Press (#124)" on a checklist of Davis' work under posters, and the details check out. I also found a four-year-old CBR forums thread attempting to piece together a comprehensive list of these posters but it seemed pretty patchwork which, as E&C points out, is weird and a shame because the ones I've stumbled on today are frequently dope. I found the same thread and realized I had the checklist someone references and I also have a ton of fanzines floating around and so uh I kind of tried to make a proper checklist? This is what I have so far I think a lot of the info from both the thread and the old CBG guide are dodgy (they attribute a bunch of art to "Bryne" and "Chido" and "Sienkiewicq" and some of the numbering looks a little off. The attribution in the CBR thread is similarly spotty, and the images are a whole other level of dodgy. The point where the CBG checklist leaves off (1993) is also not long before Marvel breaks off and self-distributes for a few years, then goes back to Diamond, then declares bankruptcy, so it's tougher than normal to track down solicitations from that era, so there's a lot of missing numbers/missing posters from that point forward, but I start filling in what I could find from the distributor catalogs I've already scanned. If anyone wants to go full GOON PROJECT on this and track down some decent photos/scans or the original sources for any of the artwork (I think over half of the poster from about #100 onward are either covers or art from trading cards) that would also be rad! I am through crate digging for the night. Here's a link to all of the poster images I've scraped together too Edge & Christian fucked around with this message at 05:26 on Jul 29, 2019 |
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By the way, I finally got JLA/Avengers in physical form, and I'm really overjoyed to own it
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David D. Davidson posted:Never read Berserk have you? berserk handles rape a million times better than any super hero comic i've ever read. one of the things that surprised me the most is how much of it is about characters trying to reckon and move past their experiences being sexually assaulted. Archyduchess posted:The subtext of this conversation so far also had me thinking, if one takes hentai and stuff out of the equation and narrows manga down to stuff someone might reasonably pick up for their kid or read on the subway, is there really, statistically, more sexual violence than Western comics? I truly couldn't even hazard a guess, honestly, because I feel like online reception of manga culture has latched onto stuff that's perhaps culturally marginal in Japan. i think you could pin some of the prevalence of "sexual violence" on japan being more lenient on stuff like boobs appearing in comics made for kids. it's not like you can't find gross attitudes towards women in the past 100 years of american comics, but it's framed in a certain way because artists aren't allowed to be as explicit. anyway, i wouldn't say the stuff that's popular in the west is marginal in Japan, but it's important to consider that there is a. lot. of. manga. in. Japan. and a lot of what is popular and translated for the west right now are isekais, which are mostly comprised of trashy trash trash. but even with that stuff its reputation tends to get overblown. something like goblin slayer started (i think, don't quote me) as a gross as hell web novel, became a less gross light novel, then an even more toned down anime. and a lot of the stuff popular in the west (visibily anyway) is boys comics made by men. but there's an enormous amount of women creators in manga, making comics for girls, on a scale that western stuff still can't even remotely compare to. so
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Parallax posted:something like goblin slayer started (i think, don't quote me) as a gross as hell web novel, became a less gross light novel, then an even more toned down anime. i think it was literally a #chan thread that got turned into a web novel that got turned into a light novel that got turned into an anime also Gripweed posted:The past two "anime derails" I've started only involved anime because somebody else brought it up. I made a joke about the X-Men from the past being Britney Spears fans and somebody was like, "You're just saying that because Britney Spears' son drew Goku once!". Just now, I was engaging in a preexisting conversation about the prevalence of rape in American superhero comics and suddenly people were all like, "oh what so manga doesn't have any rape in it?" gee guy goodbody i wonder if there's some kind of precedence that would make people think that
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The anime is still incredibly gross. It straight up shows a woman having her clothes torn off to be raped by goblins who dig their claws into her hard enough to draw blood. I looked at the manga when I was told that the manga was even more graphic out of morbid curiosity, and just about the only real difference is that the artist drew the nipples.
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Edge & Christian posted:If anyone wants to go full GOON PROJECT on this and track down some decent photos/scans or the original sources for any of the artwork (I think over half of the poster from about #100 onward are either covers or art from trading cards) that would also be rad! I am through crate digging for the night. I know I saw a few Elektra posters that were taken from Sienkiewicz's Elektra: Asssassin series when I was searching the other day. What I was doing was putting in "Marvel Press Poster [year]" and that was turning up a fair number of them, though not a whole lot of high res scans:  I noticed that Moebius did a surprising number of these posters and not just a Silver Surfer one like you might expect. Random Stranger fucked around with this message at 06:01 on Jul 29, 2019 |
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Sienkiewicz is definitely my favorite of the 80s Marvel artists. There art on New Mutants and Moon Knight just feels ahead of its time compared to most everyone else at the time. Super excited for his take on Question.
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Roth posted:Sienkiewicz is definitely my favorite of the 80s Marvel artists. There art on New Mutants and Moon Knight just feels ahead of its time compared to most everyone else at the time. Most of his 80s art feels ahead of its time now.
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Roth posted:By the way, I finally got JLA/Avengers in physical form, and I'm really overjoyed to own it They're really fun! I found half of them at a Half Price Books for cover price, then hunted down the other two. The trade is really pricey but the individual issues aren't too bad.
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Jul 29, 2019 11:29
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If you can get your hands on the slip case edition it's totally worth it.
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Alaois posted:very cool gimmick of "guy who only reads cooking mangas so he can tsk tsk people for thinking that all manga are not as wholesome as cooking mangas, and complain that there aren't more western comics about cooking" Hey now they also read volleyball mangas and ask why there's not American comics about volleyball.
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Edge & Christian posted:I found the same thread and realized I had the checklist someone references and I also have a ton of fanzines floating around and so uh I kind of tried to make a proper checklist? That Storm poster is as punk as gently caress! Also kind of bummed to see Rogue having a confederate flag towel 
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Madkal posted:That Storm poster is as punk as gently caress! Let's say she's deliberately dragging it on the ground to ruin it.
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You know what weighs a ton when you're moving? Boxes of hard cover omnibuses.
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Madkal posted:That Storm poster is as punk as gently caress! Just pretend it's a Dukes of Hazzard towel.
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Madkal posted:
It's probably Kitty's towel.
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Alhazred posted:It's probably Kitty's towel. 
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RE: that giant image dump of Marvel posters. Who's the Thor on the far right? I know Beta Ray Bill, OG Thor and Eric Masterson, but the last one.
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Skwirl posted:RE: that giant image dump of Marvel posters. Dargo Ktor.
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Now I'm trying to remember if I learned how to pronounce "Corps" because of some offhand magazine remark about how "Thor Corps" rhymes or, if it was a similar remark about how the Valiant title "H.A.R.D. Corps" is not as pornographic as the title suggests. It was definitely from one of them!
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Edge & Christian posted:Now I'm trying to remember if I learned how to pronounce "Corps" because of some offhand magazine remark about how "Thor Corps" rhymes or, if it was a similar remark about how the Valiant title "H.A.R.D. Corps" is not as pornographic as the title suggests. It was definitely from one of them! I'm pretty sure it was getting corrected on the "Green Lantern Corpse" here.  I think that poster is actually the cover from Future Thor's last appearance (well, presumably he shows up in the background of some Secret War tie-in just because everybody does). So his prominence on it is kind of weird.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:New Marvel card game from FFG looks decent.  LOL it wouldn't be a Fantasy Flight Game without a ton of random poo poo on the table
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That poster dump stirred up a memory for me; I had that one of Wolverine in a speedo eyeing up the shark as a boy. Not a poster I'd have had up and prominent in high school or college, but I like the implied violence to come. Very much eye candy for lovers of the male form, too, which is kind of cool, given how much female form eye candy there is.
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https://twitter.com/xtop/status/1156964333462540288 which one is it this time
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site posted:https://twitter.com/xtop/status/1156964333462540288 I've heard they're cancelling the new Hickman X books after just six issues.
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site posted:https://twitter.com/xtop/status/1156964333462540288 Wildcats?
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I always like it when creators show each other this kind of respect and admiration. https://twitter.com/sinKEVitch/status/1156879115892301824?s=19 Also, has anyone read this run? Doug Moench writing F4 sounds intriguing.
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Skwirl posted:I always like it when creators show each other this kind of respect and admiration. Also whatever happened to Moench? I loved his Batman run with Jones, and every now and again they reunite, but it seems he had a steep drop off after the late 90's which is a shame.
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Skwirl posted:I always like it when creators show each other this kind of respect and admiration. It's a short run that isn't great. It also suffers because it was the run right before Byrne and Byrne's FF is the first time the book was really good since Lee/Kirby. It also features everyone's favorite villains, Salem's Seven!
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Rhyno posted:Wildcats? First issue isn't dropping and it was a mini the whole time. I guess they could cut it off at 3 issues, but the artist said it's only a delay to catch up from missed deadlines.
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Teenage Fansub posted:First issue isn't dropping and it was a mini the whole time. I guess they could cut it off at 3 issues, but the artist said it's only a delay to catch up from missed deadlines. Oh I thought the first issue actually shipped. I am totally ignorant since I don't sell comics anymore.
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