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marktheando posted:The separation scene just goes on forever and ever, feels almost TMP like. up till “Heart of Glory” Worf is basically an insulting caricature as token minority, but from an ethnic group that doesn’t actually exist, which is would be kind of impressive if there was any intent behind it and not just laziness/inability of old man Gene to give a gently caress
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Snow Cone Capone posted:I know they planned to do the saucer separation as a regular thing, but I wonder if they also planned to play the theme song every time it happened? I think that's literally exactly the thing they were going for. Footage that could be re-used to fill time with something exciting and expensive-looking. They didn't fall back on that crutch very often because they didn't need to.
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Sir Lemming posted:I think that's literally exactly the thing they were going for. Footage that could be re-used to fill time with something exciting and expensive-looking. They didn't fall back on that crutch very often because they didn't need to. you have to lock that stuff in by the pilot too, otherwise the producers will never budge to get you a more expensive set
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oh yeah they used the battle bridge as a set for many other spaceships didn't they, gotta lock that down in the pilot
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The battle bridge was just a redress of the movie Enterprise bridge set, which had been around since TMP. Even without the separation sequence in the pilot, the set would have been around and available to redress again and again (I believe it was also the laboratory that Lal was born in). No, the bigger motivation was definitely getting the stock footage of the ship exteriors done, especially because during TNG pre-production, the idea was that they were going to shoot a big batch of stock footage before the series and in between seasons, and then rely almost exclusively on that stock footage for the Enterprise exteriors. This went out the window basically immediately after production started, but it was almost certainly a big motivator behind cramming the episode full of as many exterior shots as they could. Also, I'm not sure if they knew this when they were doing the writing, but TNG lucked out and got to hire ILM on the cheap. Allegedly it was because ILM was between jobs and something was better than nothing. Either way, it was certainly to TNG's advantage to get as much footage out of ILM as they could while they could.
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I had totally forgotten until I rewatched 'Farpoint' that immediately after Picard makes Riker watch the first part of the episode, he makes Riker do a manual saucer re-connection just to be a dick.
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:The battle bridge was just a redress of the movie Enterprise bridge set, which had been around since TMP. Even without the separation sequence in the pilot, the set would have been around and available to redress again and again (I believe it was also the laboratory that Lal was born in).
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How many shuttle craft does Voyager lose in total? So far by episode 5 of season 4 it is up to 3 shuttles. How does Voyager replace these things?
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.......oh, god, is that timeline supposed to imply that Ziyal is Kira's half-sister??
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:Also, I'm not sure if they knew this when they were doing the writing, but TNG lucked out and got to hire ILM on the cheap. Allegedly it was because ILM was between jobs and something was better than nothing. Either way, it was certainly to TNG's advantage to get as much footage out of ILM as they could while they could. The intro sequence of TNG still looks great today in the HD rescan, which for something made 30+ years ago for television is amazing. edit: Based on that timeline DS9 is only 18 years old at the start of the show? I always assumed it was much older. Senor Tron fucked around with this message at 06:16 on Aug 1, 2019 |
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FlamingLiberal posted:I had totally forgotten until I rewatched 'Farpoint' that immediately after Picard makes Riker watch the first part of the episode, he makes Riker do a manual saucer re-connection just to be a dick. It was weird how antagonistic Picard was to Riker at first, like he didn't want him on his ship. Especially considering Gene's philosophy of "no conflicts between the crew."
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Something I found amusing was them making Troi and Worf a thing. In at least two episodes they pair off, on in which Troi is hallucinating a relationship with him due to a psychic imprint, and the next time when they all deevolve he tries to mate with Troi, which was a great episode because it was just giving the makeup artists room to do whatever they wanted: Writer: And then Barkley turns into.... uhhhh... Makeup Guy: Ooooh, ooh! A Spider! Can we turn him into a spider? Go full Brundle-fly on him!? Writer: Why the hell not. Also, make Worf a Lobster who spits acid. Makeup guy and Michael Dorn in unison: Hell yeah!
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BioEnchanted posted:Something I found amusing was them making Troi and Worf a thing. In at least two episodes they pair off, on in which Troi is hallucinating a relationship with him due to a psychic imprint, and the next time when they all deevolve he tries to mate with Troi, which was a great episode because it was just giving the makeup artists room to do whatever they wanted: Lol yeah I am sure Michael Dorn was like, "hell yeah, MORE makeup!"
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To be fair that one was probably more bodysuit and fitted mask than actual makeup.
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Voyager travels to 1996! I didn't know this episode existed. It's... so incredibly 1996. I've never experienced 1996 so intensely, even though I lived through the year and possibly even saw this episode live and forgot about it. Sarah Silverman is flirting with Tom Paris and I am not drunk enough for this. Now right wing doomsday preppers are shooting the Doctor with a shotgun and there's the lamest car chase between a VW camper and a tractor trailer. Star Trek. Jesus. People give Voyager poo poo, but it's sure as heck not boring. Sometimes.
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I... like, that episode? Certainly not because it's good or because it has any real redeeming features whatsoever but for some reason it hits all the right buttons for brain off entertainment. It's stupid in a way that most people can't purposely conceive of and as a result it's a sick sort of fun.
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The next episode begins with that gif of the zoom in on Neelix's feet as he dances with women in swimsuits people keep posting here. I want to go back to 1996 already.
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I said come in! posted:How many shuttle craft does Voyager lose in total? So far by episode 5 of season 4 it is up to 3 shuttles. How does Voyager replace these things? 
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Not the Voyager, but I did that stage 9 Enterprise D VR walkthrough some months back that is supposedly based on the ship layout plans as imagined. I took the turbo lift down to the shuttlebay C or something and there were hundreds of the drat things in each variant off in each direction. Supposedly that's what you'd see if you just turned the camera around from the one corner of the bay with the one shuttle that's in frame. No wonder they seem to never sweat crashing or blowing them up.
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Isometric Bacon posted:Not the Voyager, but I did that stage 9 Enterprise D VR walkthrough some months back that is supposedly based on the ship layout plans as imagined. Yeah, but the D's a mobile starbase, it's got something like literally ten times the volume of Voyager. The Delta Flyer wouldn't even fit through the doors of Voyager's shuttlebay. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 11:21 on Aug 1, 2019 |
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I know the answer is “because Voyager” but how the gently caress did space-redneck Tom Paris build not one, but two gigantic Delta Flyers in his spare time? The drat thing has a warp core, escape pods, and a full size aft cargo bay thing 
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I know the answer is “because Voyager” but how the gently caress did space-redneck Tom Paris build not one, but two gigantic Delta Flyers in his spare time? He designed it in his spare time, but building it was a full-team effort for a week. Maybe they stripped an existing shuttle for the stuff like the warp system and fitted them into a new spaceframe with upgrades.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I know the answer is “because Voyager” but how the gently caress did space-redneck Tom Paris build not one, but two gigantic Delta Flyers in his spare time?
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piratepilates posted:you have to lock that stuff in by the pilot too, otherwise the producers will never budge to get you a more expensive set The expensive set they wrote a tiny scene for to lock down was engineering actually. Picard walks through it a bit at the start of the episode and that's it.
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:.......oh, god, is that timeline supposed to imply that Ziyal is Kira's half-sister?? The timeline specifically says who both Kira and Ziyal's parents are, so no.
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Perhaps these shuttles are mostly assembled IKEA pieces made from industrial sized replicators.
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Shuttles are actually a self-replicating plague the Federation is trying to eliminate. Every shuttle crash is actually a deliberate attempt to cull their numbers before they breed out of control.
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Whalley posted:Janeway vastly overestimated how many nebulas would need to be harvested for her coffee Overestimated? You saw how crazy Janeway was getting after seven years of half-ration coffee.
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Watching TNG Time Squared. God I loved these kinds of episodes. Same for Where Silence Has Lease.
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1000 Brown M and Ms posted:The expensive set they wrote a tiny scene for to lock down was engineering actually. Picard walks through it a bit at the start of the episode and that's it. That might explain why The Orville's engineering set looks so cheap compared to their other ones, they didn't go there until episode 4 or 5
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Bobbin Threadbare posted:Overestimated? You saw how crazy Janeway was getting after seven years of half-ration coffee. Imagine if O'Brien was on the Voyager and couldn't order his "Coffee, Jamaican style, DOUBLE SWEET, DOUBLE STRONG" every single time he passed a replicator.
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:That might explain why The Orville's engineering set looks so cheap compared to their other ones, they didn't go there until episode 4 or 5 Also what is up with Disco's engineering set? Originally I thought it was supposed to be Stamets science lab, with the cell for milking the nipple clamped monster and his mycelliuwhatever forest, but it seemed somewhere along the line it became engineering with a couple of glowy canisters on the walls.
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Isometric Bacon posted:Also what is up with Disco's engineering set? Originally I thought it was supposed to be Stamets science lab, with the cell for milking the nipple clamped monster and his mycelliuwhatever forest, but it seemed somewhere along the line it became engineering with a couple of glowy canisters on the walls. Yeah also the ship with the most engineering we've ever seen other than maybe the Prometheus doesn't have a chief engineer, apparently I fee like they really just didn't think about it. We've never seen the warp core or anything but they started interchangeably referring to the spore lab as engineering. 
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The Bloop posted:Yeah also the ship with the most engineering we've ever seen other than maybe the Prometheus doesn't have a chief engineer, apparently Doesn't Disco have a TOS-style warp core (or at least something evocative of it) on the back wall of the spore lab thing? At work and can't be hosed to take 20 minutes to try to find a screenshot.
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I thought it was Engineering and it contained all the spore stuff because that was one of Disco's methods of propulsion? I think it makes sense that the Spore Drive would be in the same area as the Warp Drive. Also the glowy cylinders contained the spore samples, they were essentially fuel cells for the Spore Drive. e: there's definitely a warp core in the back of the room: 
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Drone posted:Doesn't Disco have a TOS-style warp core (or at least something evocative of it) on the back wall of the spore lab thing? At work and can't be hosed to take 20 minutes to try to find a screenshot. Looks like it, yeah. https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Crossfield_class?file=USS_Discovery_Engineering.jpg
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