Glasses Optional posted:

He is the only candidate discussing changing the constitution and political systems from being pants on head stupid and that enough gets my head turned and places him solidly outside the horse poo poo Biden camp.

GreyjoyBastard posted:

don't be a shitbag, especially in response to an effortpost

uglycat is contributing on-the-ground lived-experience stuff about buttigieg, and maybe should be engaged with more than a driveby shitpost

VH4Ever posted:

Here's an angle I haven't seen anyone take yet in response to this: I don't doubt at all what you say and there's not one word I could say to challenge anything you've told us because that's your lived experience. But maybe you're a bit too close to Pete to be objective about both his pros and his cons?

Main Paineframe posted:

No, he's not. He's saying that Pete is really bad, but we should excuse him for it since it's not his fault he's bad, and there's a lot of progressives in South Bend so we should like Pete despite his badness. Also, he's going on at length about how Uglycat, personally, is a progressive superstar, and Pete went to the same school that he did, wink wink. He's actually posting nothing but criticism about Pete, but he's burying it in enormous amounts of misleading, off-topic, and irrelevant garbage, along with plenty of backhanded "sure, Pete is terrible on black issues, but it can't be helped since he's a white mayor, so we shouldn't hold it against him" poo poo.

Also, he claims to have close insider ties to the Buttigieg administration, and has bragged about personal involvement in every single one of Pete's scandals.

Blind Pineapple posted:

I really hope the current polls are greatly flawed in some way, because I can't stomach the thought of watching Biden and Trump sundowning simultaneously on stage this time next year.

gohmak posted:

https://twitter.com/MikeGravel/status/1156769592838172672?s=20

Blind Pineapple posted:

I really hope the current polls are greatly flawed in some way, because I can't stomach the thought of watching Biden and Trump sundowning simultaneously on stage this time next year.

Mind_Taker posted:

Holy poo poo that ending was perfect. Biden is senile

TulliusCicero posted:

So is 50%+ of the electorate

"He's just like us!": Brain damaged from dementia and lead fumes

Uglycat posted:

Fair.
Take me for exactly what I am, offering exactly what I offer.

The Muppets On PCP posted:

i dunno expectations for him are probably sufficiently lowered this time around even if he mr magoos it again the reaction won't be quite as drastic

quote:

Joe Biden was good enough. And that, in itself, was a victory.

His fellow Democrats began attacking him in the very first minute of Wednesday night’s debate, and they didn’t stop. They attacked him on health care. They attacked him on immigration. They attacked him on crime. They attacked him on inequality, race, climate change, trade, equality, abortion and Iraq.

And Biden was . . . perfectly adequate. He wasn’t the most eloquent or stylish debater on the stage. He struggled to find words at times, he seemed over-rehearsed, he seemed not to grasp how texting works (“Go to Joe 30330”), he cut himself off when his allotted time expired and, at times, he seemed stunned by the ferocity of the barrage — which, in fairness, was stunning.

But in contrast to his lifeless performance at the first debate, Biden was energetic and prepared. He returned fire with fire and, for the most part, he held his own.

JesusSinfulHands posted:

Bernie, Warren, and Harris are definitely gonna tag team to go after Biden during the next debate.

Darko posted:

Also, these debates are a block away from where I live and I now have an anti abortion truck with pictures of a dismembered (probable) miscarriage sitting in front of my loft.

Blind Pineapple posted:

I really hope the current polls are greatly flawed in some way, because I can't stomach the thought of watching Biden and Trump sundowning simultaneously on stage this time next year.

Failed Imagineer posted:

The worst part about Joe 30330 is that it's not even an election year. Is he really talking about the 30330 midterms already?

FizFashizzle posted:

The people propping him up watched the same debate we did. Sure there’s an army of dc leaches pointing to polls saying he’s still in the lead, but the money has to realize he’s a sinking boat at this point.

Mooseontheloose posted:

I still think part of the reason CNN and other media types are pushing Biden is because they have the narrative written and if Warren, Sanders, Harris, or someone else becomes the nominee they don't know how to write a new narrative or want to cover the race.

Marxalot posted:

While I'm still of the opinion that the dems are going to trip over their own dicks and reelect trump, there's one minor flaw in modern polling. Just a slight one.




Who the -gently caress- do you know that is willing to answer a phonecall from a random unlisted number? Much less actually sit on the line for a while and answer a poll on a workday lmao.

OhDearGodNo posted:

That’s only part of that. There is a nonzero chance that many who poll won’t admit to voting for Trump to anyone but still will do so.

It is believed to be one of the largest reasons exit polling was so off back in 2016.

Blind Pineapple posted:

I really hope the current polls are greatly flawed in some way, because I can't stomach the thought of watching Biden and Trump sundowning simultaneously on stage this time next year.

Uglycat posted:

I catch WiFi at truck stops, traveling between primitivist intentional communities, operating by consensus. I jug, I dumpster dive, and I live happy. Three years, I been on the road. I spent three months at standing rock. Two in flint. I camped in protest at the rnc. I helped a kitchen feed hundreds in Texas, after a hurricane. I was pepper sprayed, naked, at the inauguration, holding off a phalanx. I scrawled "kaine/buttigieg 2020" in chalk outside the convention center when Hillary won the nomination. Project Veritas caught footage of a meeting I attending a meeting at an anarchist bookshop in Brooklyn. I marched with the black bloc on j20. I was on the border earlier this year, at an indigestion led resistance camp, watching border control hunt humans. I've been in the black hills twice, playing cat and mouse with forest service. And that's all after spending 6 years actively building south bend.

Pete good.

FizFashizzle posted:

My favorite was him claiming he'd put a cap on copays at 1k.

Even assuming he meant deductibles thats still loving garbage.

FizFashizzle posted:

My favorite was him claiming he'd put a cap on copays at 1k.

Even assuming he meant deductibles thats still loving garbage.

Uglycat posted:

joepinetree posted:

Holy crap. Kamala's campaign may be the most cynical and disingenuous yet. She tweeted this today:

https://mobile.twitter.com/KamalaHarris/status/1156733317141676032

Except that Obama said this long before Kamala came up with her plan and called it Medicare for all.

This may be the single most egregious example of contempt for voters of this cycle. What's next? She's going to create a policy called the new deal and then Rob ads on how her new deal proposal is endorsed by fdr?

Groovelord Neato posted:

harris is quickly overtaking biden in who's worse. biden's poo poo but at least he's out there with his poo poo harris says one thing then does the opposite. calling her plan medicare for all, that aipac poo poo. it's almost weirder she has huge fans than if biden did.