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mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




TheDemon posted:

Most of that escort and the CAP were KI-84s. And hey, no P-39s shot down while on defense at least.

The P-39 was crap in the Pacific, but at least it got used to good effect by the Soviets.

The P-39/-63 campaigns in IL2 Sturmovik are first class flight-sim fun. The P-63 around the Black Sea gave a great mix of A2A, A2G, and A2S missions in a pretty solid aircraft. The P-39 was so successful against German bombers with that phat 37mm that the P-63 was produced.

e.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pal8pHJLw9A

mllaneza fucked around with this message at 07:09 on Jul 31, 2019

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Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets






The skies are clear of enemy planes today.



It's my turn to ruin runways and put down planes.






I remember when Liberators scared me.






Yeah, I'm in control over the Marianus now.

David Corbett
Feb 6, 2008

Courage, my friends; 'tis not too late to build a better world.
Tomorrow is a very big day. Good luck, GH.

Imaginary Baron
Apr 14, 2010
The Soviets activate on August 9th correct? I’m curious what actions, if any, the AI will take with the Russian units at that point to make things interesting.

Top Hats Monthly
Jun 22, 2011


People are people so why should it be, that you and I should get along so awfully blink blink recall STOP IT YOU POSH LITTLE SHIT
Get a task force sailing for Vladivostok immediately :black101:

OpenlyEvilJello
Dec 28, 2009

29 July 1945

Okinawa claims its final picket destroyer: USS Callaghan sinks after a kamikaze hit.

30 July 1945

This is a historic day, on which we bear witness to one of the US Navy's greatest disasters and, in the same incident, the final Allied warship sunk in World War II. Four days ago, USS Indianapolis, a Portland-class Treaty cruiser launched in 1931 that had served as Raymond Spruance's Fifth Fleet flagship, delivered the uranium-235 and other components of the atomic bomb Little Boy to the island of Tinian in the Marianas, setting speed records in the process. Two days later, two days ago, she departed the Marianas for Leyte in the Philippines to undergo training. Today, July 30, approximately 15 minutes after midnight, Indianapolis was fatally struck by torpedoes launched by the Japanese submarine I-58. In just 12 minutes she rolled over and dived for the ocean floor, taking some 300 men with her. Nearly 900 therefore remained in the water, adrift, with little survival gear. Indianapolis slipped through the cracks in Navy record-keeping, and it was not until August 2 that anyone else learned of the sinking, when a PBY and Ventura chanced to fly overhead on routine patrol. By the time rescue arrived, only 316 men remained of a crew of 1195. The loss of the Indianapolis remains the single greatest loss of life from a single ship in US Navy history.

In slightly more mundane news, the destroyer Hatsushimo sinks to a mine strike near Maizuru and the escorts Okinawa and No. 2 are sunk by carrier aircraft nearby.

31 July 1945

A British midget submarine sinks the heavy cruiser Takao in Singapore Dockyard.

Lord Koth
Jan 8, 2012

OpenlyEvilJello posted:


31 July 1945

A British midget submarine sinks the heavy cruiser Takao in Singapore Dockyard.

Uh, where are you getting that Takao sunk? All I was aware of (or seeing) was Operation Struggle further crippling the seaworthiness an already crippled ship that was just being used as an AA platform in the harbor, and continued fulfilling that role afterwards too. Not even a matter of the harbor being so shallow the deck could remain above water either - the ship just settled in the water a bit but remained afloat.

Though at the very least the Brits didn't actually lose any lives in that completely pointless task, unlike the attacks on Kure.

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

I've been here the whole time, and you're not my real Dad! :emo:
RIP Quint

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22

mllaneza posted:

The P-39/-63 campaigns in IL2 Sturmovik are first class flight-sim fun. The P-63 around the Black Sea gave a great mix of A2A, A2G, and A2S missions in a pretty solid aircraft. The P-39 was so successful against German bombers with that phat 37mm that the P-63 was produced.

e.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pal8pHJLw9A

supposedly the armament was a huge pain in the dick because the muzzle velocity of the M4 cannon was like 2/3 of the Browning M2s, pretty hard to zero and with quite a bit of dispersion around the zero point

OpenlyEvilJello
Dec 28, 2009

Lord Koth posted:

Uh, where are you getting that Takao sunk? All I was aware of (or seeing) was Operation Struggle further crippling the seaworthiness an already crippled ship that was just being used as an AA platform in the harbor, and continued fulfilling that role afterwards too. Not even a matter of the harbor being so shallow the deck could remain above water either - the ship just settled in the water a bit but remained afloat.

Though at the very least the Brits didn't actually lose any lives in that completely pointless task, unlike the attacks on Kure.

I've been going off David Brown, Warship Losses of World War Two, which has a day-by-day reckoning. He says "Sunk in Singapore Dockyard (laid up damaged – see 23 October 1944) by charges laid by crew of RN midget submarine XE-3." But I agree, that does seem to be an error.

The Sandman
Jun 23, 2013

Okay!

So, I've, like, designed a really sweet attack plan that I'm calling Attack Plan Ded Moroz, like "Deadmau5!"

WUB!
Once Grey finishes overrunning Assam and Darjeeling, he just needs to take Ceylon and the British will be forced to surrender on account of inadequate tea reserves.

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets






I'm through playing, now we just finish them.






Here they come again.



Sigh, same old.






I wonder if anything interesting happens today.



Bring it on!




The data from the last game stops here, so the graphs get a bit weird.



Guess who got nukes.



Operation silk road sees the number of based the Allies hold actually decrease.



I think this one really shows how poorly the AI is performing.



Aircraft losses close to just 240.



The over two to one losses the Allied army has taken in the war is stunning – they managed to lose more than the AI did!



When was the last time we saw and Allied carrier? Though it should be said my own carriers are not cutting the mustard due to pilot losses.



With 2.5x the number of ships lost and 3x the value, the Allied navy has left me in control.

What does this mean? I will be, unless the Soviets prove interesting, be accepting the Allied surrender in one months time.

Top Hats Monthly
Jun 22, 2011


People are people so why should it be, that you and I should get along so awfully blink blink recall STOP IT YOU POSH LITTLE SHIT
Not a step back! Er...I mean, banzai?

Moon Slayer
Jun 19, 2007


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Imaginary Baron
Apr 14, 2010

Moon Slayer posted:

ronpaul_itshappening.gif

YEEEEESS. :ussr:

Kangxi
Nov 12, 2016

"Too paranoid for you?"
"Not me, paranoia's the garlic in life's kitchen, right, you can never have too much."
Here we loving go!!!!!

Broken Box
Jan 29, 2009

kirov reporting

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:

supposedly the armament was a huge pain in the dick because the muzzle velocity of the M4 cannon was like 2/3 of the Browning M2s, pretty hard to zero and with quite a bit of dispersion around the zero point

Yeah, the big cannon and the .50s are really, truly separate. The 37mm is pretty high velocity, but it's still a case of lobbing the shell in an arc. The convergence setting for the cannon is going to be where the shell comes back down and crosses the level plane, going down in its arc.

Akratic Method
Mar 9, 2013

It's going to pay off eventually--I'm sure of it.

Any day now.

Broken Box posted:

kirov reporting

I don’t even know if this is what you were referencing but Hell March immediately started playing in my head.

Serpentis
May 31, 2011

Well, if I really HAVE to shoot you in the bollocks to shut you up, then I guess I'll need to, post-haste, for everyone else's sake.

Akratic Method posted:

I don’t even know if this is what you were referencing but Hell March immediately started playing in my head.

That, or the Apocalypse Tank's "It is day of JUDGEMENT" seems appropriate.

Onward, Grey! Show that communism is just as weak and heartless as capitalism!

Arcturas
Mar 30, 2011

How are your points and the AI Japanese points about the same, since you're ahead on what seems like every metric compared to the AI Japan.

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
The first war was a bloodbath.

Jesenjin
Nov 12, 2011

Akratic Method posted:

I don’t even know if this is what you were referencing but Hell March immediately started playing in my head.

Red Alert 2 - Kirov airships

HannibalBarca
Sep 11, 2016

History shows, again and again, how nature points out the folly of man.
Beach all your unused crusiers on the coastline of Korea in hull-down position. Not much else is gonna be able to damage those IS-2s :v:

Chunky Monkey
Jun 12, 2005
Kill the Gnome!
I love how something as important as the Soviet Union declaring war on you is relegated to a single line at the end of the intelligence report. Never change WiTP. Never change.

Nth Doctor
Sep 7, 2010

Darkrai used Dream Eater!
It's super effective!


Chunky Monkey posted:

I love how something as important as the Soviet Union declaring war on you is relegated to a single line at the end of the intelligence report. Never change WiTP. Never change.

IIRC, the atomic bomb was merely an all caps last time around.

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets
Right - plans for ending this thing.

Of course, I don't want this to go out on a whimper - I'm board guys, see you later, so here is the plan.

I'm going to move the carriers and battleships back to Japan, then give them a week or so to replenish and re-arm. Rabaul is a bit low on supplies due to the lost convoys.
The I'm going to sail to Pearl Harbour.

My reasoning is this - the Allies are losing on every front, and a second attack on Pearl Harbor will break American morale - they have lost huge numbers of men and ships for no gain in four years. even an unsuccessful raid will force them to the peace table. For the Japanese, losing the fleet to win the war is a worthwhile trade.

This is not realistic of course, but will have to do for this LP.

Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!
I know there are AARs where a skilled Japan player manages to sail over to the West Coast and mess with American production/supplies there, but have there been any times when people skilled at the land game (insofar as you can be good at it) withstood the Soviet invasion of Manchuria?

Comstar
Apr 20, 2007

Are you happy now?

Grey Hunter posted:

I'm going to move the carriers and battleships back to Japan, then give them a week or so to replenish and re-arm. Rabaul is a bit low on supplies due to the lost convoys.
The I'm going to sail to Pearl Harbour.

I think the Yamato firing main gun armament on Pearl Harbour could be defined as "war winning".

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets
Shame she's sunk then.

Arbite
Nov 4, 2009





Grey Hunter posted:

Shame she's sunk then.

Good thing my Mutsu is there to take the lead then.


TehKeen posted:

You'll be lucky if she doesn't randomly explode in port for no reason on the first turn. :v:

Hah!

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Arcturas posted:

How are your points and the AI Japanese points about the same, since you're ahead on what seems like every metric compared to the AI Japan.

if you look, Grey-as-the-Allies also lost a lot more men and materiel than the AI-as-the-Allies, so doing better also came at a much higher cost.

Comstar
Apr 20, 2007

Are you happy now?

Grey Hunter posted:

Shame she's sunk then.

Well it's a good thing no one's told the IJA about that!

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

Pirate Radar posted:

I know there are AARs where a skilled Japan player manages to sail over to the West Coast and mess with American production/supplies there, but have there been any times when people skilled at the land game (insofar as you can be good at it) withstood the Soviet invasion of Manchuria?

One player decided to invade the Soviet Union straight off. It was an interesting move.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
in the non-Admiral's Edition version of the game it was a legitimate strategy to invade the USSR right off the bat because the land combat model was even more broken at the time to the point where the Japanese would have a good shot at succeeding

Grammarchist
Jan 28, 2013

The reason we haven't seen Allied Carriers is because their intelligence somehow missed the sinking of the Yamato and the papers have turned the ship into a Flying Dutchman responsible for every unexplained sinking and mishap in the Pacific. They're basically chasing the fourth of three pigs and losing the war for it.

CannonFodder
Jan 26, 2001

Passion’s Wrench

gradenko_2000 posted:

if you look, Grey-as-the-Allies also lost a lot more men and materiel than the AI-as-the-Allies, so doing better also came at a much higher cost.
I think Grey-as-the-Allies also took Midway only to lose it later at great cost.

GatA also lost a lot of ships properly pushing back Japan instead of sitting in San Diego like the Allies in this game.



Grey: if any of the KB is left after Pearl Harbor Harder, is Vladivostok worth bombarding?

Oh, and actually sink a dang ship this time. Third time's the charm.

CannonFodder fucked around with this message at 17:49 on Aug 2, 2019

PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

Grey Hunter posted:

I'm going to move the carriers and battleships back to Japan, then give them a week or so to replenish and re-arm. Rabaul is a bit low on supplies due to the lost convoys.
The I'm going to sail to Pearl Harbour.

Hell yes.

Cantorsdust
Aug 10, 2008

Infinitely many points, but zero length.

Grey Hunter posted:

The I'm going to sail to Pearl Harbour.

Banzai!

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acidia
Oct 31, 2012
Let's make this end the way it began.

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