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RatHat posted:In the Vivre card databooks Mother Carmel is only listed as "missing" history is written by the victors!
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Also seems to confirm that King isn't a human, though, and him and Queen are both huge. Like, significantly bigger than Whitebeard. Oda's really good at cliffhangers and this is definitely one of his crazier ones.
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Aug 2, 2019 08:06
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So she’s missing three races, Giant’s, Skypieans and “one lost to time”. Wonder what that last one is.
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Aug 2, 2019 08:11
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the big D's!!
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Aug 2, 2019 08:16
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Everyone is sleeping on the fact that Franky just casually rolls out on a horse with a tiger's head and Robin just blasting Brooke for being a skeleton with no body heat Also, what are the other two races that aren't in Big Mom's crew (Besides whatever King is)? Skypedian in one we haven't seen yet, Giants are almost definitely there. The last panel where the sky splitting is a throwback to when Whitebeard and Shanks had a disagreement way back when. Both crews commented on it but we didn't see a real clash, so this must be what happens when two super heavyweights Haki start to clash against each other. It makes me believe that Shanks isn't a happy go lucky good guy and he said something that really pissed Whitebeard off, possibly why he's in reviere talking to the shadow government.
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Aug 2, 2019 08:34
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RatHat posted:In the Vivre card databooks Mother Carmel is only listed as "missing" if she's still alive wouldn't that make her like 140
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Aug 2, 2019 08:48
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I think the idea with Brook is that he looks like a horrible ghost that no one wants to even acknowledge lest they become targets of his wrath.
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Aug 2, 2019 09:03
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U-DO Burger posted:if she's still alive wouldn't that make her like 140 Kureha's 141 so it's not like that'd be impossible.
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Real Cool Catfish posted:So she’s missing three races, Giant’s, Skypieans and “one lost to time”. Wonder what that last one is. The giant hat people obvs, unbeknownst to her the government keeps one in suspended animation (like Akira).
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Aug 2, 2019 10:00
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is it messed up big mom basically quoted brook from when they clashed?
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Aug 2, 2019 10:04
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Seems maybe kinda fitting, since Brook is kinda a worthy foe for her and also one of her few peers in her age group, along implicitly with Kaido.
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Aug 2, 2019 10:18
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I'm guessing that this will end with Big Mom and Kaido remembering the good old days and deciding to team up for a scrap for old times sake, because regardless of Kaido's strength, so far everything is basically going to plan for the allied forces, as Kin'emon confirmed this chapter, and it wouldn't be Oda (or shonen in general) if a massive wrench wasn't suddenly thrown into everything and the stakes raised.
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Aug 2, 2019 11:04
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if the fighting doesn't split the island, the post-fight loving will
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Aug 2, 2019 11:14
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:I'm guessing that this will end with Big Mom and Kaido remembering the good old days and deciding to team up for a scrap for old times sake, because regardless of Kaido's strength, so far everything is basically going to plan for the allied forces, as Kin'emon confirmed this chapter, and it wouldn't be Oda (or shonen in general) if a massive wrench wasn't suddenly thrown into everything and the stakes raised. Like I said a few weeks ago, the situation seemed way too smooth, and Kaido has too few named commanders for a massive battle. BM and Kaido means Luffy needs more allies, though. Grand Fleet? Fujitora showing up? A Katakuri-led splinter faction of the BM pirates? The Revolutionaries? All of the above?
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Aug 2, 2019 11:38
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Please stop, I can only get so erect.
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Aug 2, 2019 11:39
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RealFoxy posted:Everyone is sleeping on the fact that Franky just casually rolls out on a horse with a tiger's head and Robin just blasting Brooke for being a skeleton with no body heat I forget, was there a Fishman among Big Mom's crew? Unless Jinbei counted in that regard in which case that'd probably be one of the races she needs now.
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Aug 2, 2019 12:29
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Larryb posted:I forget, was there a Fishman among Big Mom's crew? Unless Jinbei counted in that regard in which case that'd probably be one of the races she needs now. Katakuri is half-Fishman, so even without Jinbei or his crew anymore she should still be good there. And Fishman are relatively common, it'd be strange if she didn't have some random fishmen citizens somewhere along her many islands. Especially since Fishman Island used to be one of her islands. I think the ones she needs are a Dwarf, as someone mentioned before, a Giant, because Elbaf hates her, and then whatever King is, who seems to be the last of his kind.
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Aug 2, 2019 12:49
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gnome7 posted:Katakuri is half-Fishman, so even without Jinbei or his crew anymore she should still be good there. And Fishman are relatively common, it'd be strange if she didn't have some random fishmen citizens somewhere along her many islands. Especially since Fishman Island used to be one of her islands. As far as Giants go, wouldn't Big Mom herself technically count in that regard?
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Aug 2, 2019 12:52
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Larryb posted:As far as Giants go, wouldn't Big Mom herself technically count in that regard? No, she's explicitly a very oversized human, not a giant.
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Tolth posted:No, she's explicitly a very oversized human, not a giant. Ah, nevermind then.
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Aug 2, 2019 13:05
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gnome7 posted:Katakuri is half-Fishman, so even without Jinbei or his crew anymore she should still be good there. And Fishman are relatively common, it'd be strange if she didn't have some random fishmen citizens somewhere along her many islands. Especially since Fishman Island used to be one of her islands. Katakuri isn't half-fishman, unless Daifuku and Oven are, too, and I don't see it. Big Mom has a mermaid daughter that ran away with Jinbei's crew so that counts anyway.
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Aug 2, 2019 13:13
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I always imagined Oven and Katakuri as Kaidou's kids.
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Aug 2, 2019 13:54
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Grouchio posted:I always imagined Oven and Katakuri as Kaidou's kids. I've seen theories about that and it makes sense as they seem to match in physical resemblance to him and are both strong as hell.
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Uruoge was a very public Skypean so King is likely not one if he's regarded as the last of his kind
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Aug 2, 2019 15:12
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I wonder if King is from Enel's sky island, his wings look like the kind that the Enel priests (and Urouge) have
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Oh hey, we going back to the rest of the gang now! Been a little bit. Haha those wanted posters are great. Wait, Law would totally just kill his own crew to kill Hawkins? I dunno if he was bluffing and Hawkins fell for it, but it totally fuckin worked. Either way, ice fuckin cold, Law. Holy poo poo, the Usopp and Robin faces. I also love Brook just floatin' on by. Oh gently caress, Kaido's crew is feeding Big Mom? Are they gunna try to team up with her or something? Oh wait, King is an extinct race?! I wonder what it is... OH gently caress KAIDO IS LETTING BIG MOM OUT OF THE SEASTONE SHACKLES! Is this gunna be a big showdown?! OH gently caress IT IS AAAAAAAAAAAA
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Aug 2, 2019 15:53
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Hm... honestly, makes me wonder if the lost race isn't some sort of dragon. But I'm a fan of the theory that's Kaido being a dragon that ate some sort of Oni devil, so might just be wanting something to support that. Also, chat about Weevil made me realise that the little catch up with Moria and Blackbeard earlier kinda works against a popular theory with him; that he was something Moria had stitched together and taken control off.
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Came up before, and yeah, the father and species of Big Mom's oldest kids isn't confirmed but she and Kaido do have history together from early on in her pirate career, and Katakuri's childhood is specifically shown to be when Big Mom's family didn't scare everyone shitless yet. (Although now they bully each other plenty instead) And we've had a lot of reveals lately that are pretty obvious if you look at the implications. Also Big Mom does seem to be kind of a skank. Random note; Boa Hancock was previously believed to be a candidate for most powerful woman in the One Piece world, but I think so far Big Mom claims that title handily. Not sure they have a lot in common, in fact they're almost opposites... well, aside from being dangerously childish because they've got pretty big mental problems portrayed in sometimes surprisingly realistic ways. (Hancock basically acts like a bratty princess as a queen and a smitten teenage girl around Luffy... and going into even the slightest implications about her backstory probably means she has has reasons for her arrested development that we do not need to go into detail about) Big Mom specifically said King is apparently of a race that was 'erased from history', though I dunno how literal that translation is, maybe it has something to do with the Void Century?
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King isn't from the race erased from history, he's from the "third" that she doesn't have already. So it is Giants, King's Race (probably Skypeians or whatever the ones with wings are?) and the erased from history one.
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tbp posted:King isn't from the race erased from history, he's from the "third" that she doesn't have already. So it is Giants, King's Race (probably Skypeians or whatever the ones with wings are?) and the erased from history one. Maybe the JB translation is bad but the line in that is "One of those was supposedly extinguished from history itself...but you are alive and standing here!" The MS translation is slightly more ambiguous but in either case it seems odd to transition from talking about a dead race to then specifically pointing out that King is alive. Like if he's just a skypean, then yeah no poo poo he's alive, a bunch of them are.
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No Wave posted:is Kappa a race? Fishman, I think.
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Aug 2, 2019 17:10
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king is deffo from the foregone race
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Guy A. Person posted:Maybe the JB translation is bad but the line in that is "One of those was supposedly extinguished from history itself...but you are alive and standing here!" Aye, that was the implication I took from it; makes for a good backstory of who is meant to be the strongest member of Kaido's crew as well. Still, could just be odd translation.
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Aug 2, 2019 17:13
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give king a senor pink quality backstory please
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Aug 2, 2019 17:22
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I lol'd hard at Usopp and Robin's "disguises" with Brook "haunting" them. Robin's face reminds me of something you'd see on r/PrettyGirlsUglyFaces.
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Aug 2, 2019 17:25
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the faces are remarkably close to their HAA? faces
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Aug 2, 2019 17:28
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as completely bullshit as it would have been, I was kinda expecting big mom to break the chains and one shot king after he refused to join
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Aug 2, 2019 17:30
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It's quite likely that Kaido thinks that Big Mom might be one of the few people in the world with a chance at killing him. And even if not, it's probably easier to fight her himself than get even more of his manpower and material destroyed fruitlessly going against her, even moreso than the inevitable Kaiju battle that's about to ensue. Comedy option, which you never know in this manga: Kaido and Big Mom end up rekindling their romance and realise basically all of their lives since their old days together has been one big mistake, and elope, abandoning their empires. Luffy officiates their marriage.
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