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| Joe Biden, the Inappropriate Toucher |
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18 | 1.46% |
| Bernie Sanders, the Hand Flailer |
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665 | 54.11% |
| Elizabeth Warren, the Plan Maker |
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319 | 25.96% |
| Kamala Harris, the Cop Lord |
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26 | 2.12% |
| Cory Booker, the Super Hero Wannabe |
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5 | 0.41% |
| Julian Castro, the Twin |
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5 | 0.41% |
| Kirsten Gillibrand, the Franken Killer |
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5 | 0.41% |
| Pete Buttigieg, the Troop Sociopath |
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17 | 1.38% |
| Robert Francis O'Rourke, the Fake Latino |
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3 | 0.24% |
| Jay Inslee, the Climate Alarmist |
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8 | 0.65% |
| Marianne Williamson, the Crystal Queen |
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86 | 7.00% |
| Tulsi Gabbard, the Muslim Hater |
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23 | 1.87% |
| Andrew Yang, the $1000 Fool |
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32 | 2.60% |
| Eric Swalwell, the Insurance Wife Guy |
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2 | 0.16% |
| Amy Klobuchar, the Comb Enthusiast |
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1 | 0.08% |
| Bill de Blasio, the NYPD Most Hated |
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4 | 0.33% |
| Tim Ryan, the Dope Face |
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3 | 0.24% |
| John Hickenlooper, the Also Ran |
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7 | 0.57% |
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FYI, those smaller blue spots are where all the people live E: Also this is from the map that excludes Bernie, lol
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You described South Bend as being a very progressive place that prevented a concentration camp from being built. Why, then, did they not run Pete out of town for harassing poor people out of their homes? Or for harassing homeless people? He's a real piece of poo poo.
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Aug 2, 2019 17:46
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it's great mayor pete has half as many donors as bernie but has raised almost as much money. very normal.
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King of Solomon posted:You described South Bend as being a very progressive place that prevented a concentration camp from being built quote:Why, then, did they not run Pete out of town for harassing poor people out of their homes? Or for harassing homeless people? Uglycat fucked around with this message at 17:51 on Aug 2, 2019 |
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Aug 2, 2019 17:47
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Aug 2, 2019 18:00
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Groovelord Neato posted:it's great mayor pete has half as many donors as bernie but has raised almost as much money. very normal. Looking at those NYT maps Buttgeig is the candidate of choice for people living in the ultra-wealthy sections of major cities (ex Manhattan).
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Aug 2, 2019 18:02
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WampaLord posted:FYI, those smaller blue spots are where all the people live on the bernie included map there is a biden area - oddly enough matches up with the massive nightmare retirement community known as "the villages": 
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Aug 2, 2019 18:05
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Groovelord Neato posted:on the bernie included map there is a biden area - oddly enough matches up with the massive nightmare retirement community known as "the villages": Yup that makes perfect sense, The Villages is dying rich Boomer central. Thankfully Florida is a very populated state and the big cities are more than enough to overwhelm the voting influence of The Villages
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Aug 2, 2019 18:06
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twice burned ice posted:You're right; ensuring free and fair elections is something so stupid that only a lib could care about it. the united states is an incredibly undemocratic country
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Aug 2, 2019 18:06
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WampaLord posted:Yup that makes perfect sense, The Villages is dying rich Boomer central. Thankfully Florida is a very populated state and the big cities are more than enough to overwhelm the voting influence of The Villages Not when it is suppressed, and they bus in new snowbirds and the shittiest boomers by the day my dude
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Aug 2, 2019 18:09
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TulliusCicero posted:Not when it is suppressed, and they bus in new snowbirds and the shittiest boomers by the day my dude Might as well give up now, then! What's the point of doomsaying like this?
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Aug 2, 2019 18:10
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here's the full florida map:
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Aug 2, 2019 18:12
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All who oppose Bernie remain invalid.
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Aug 2, 2019 18:13
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Nonsense posted:All who oppose Bernie remain invalid.  https://www.jfklibrary.org/learn/education/profile-in-courage-essay-contest/past-winning-essays/2000-winning-essay-by-peter-buttigieg
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Aug 2, 2019 18:17
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WampaLord posted:Might as well give up now, then! Doomsaying? I'm saying no one can be complacent about Florida anymore. Vote now, or it will become the chuddiest state in the union.
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Aug 2, 2019 18:18
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TulliusCicero posted:Doomsaying? I'm saying no one can complacent about Florida anymore. Vote now, or it will become the chuddiest state in the union. Okay, well, yeah, I agree with you and I've got me and my whole family voting for Bernie and I've been doorknocking for months now. I just don't see the point in chicken littling about snowbirds or whatever you're scared about because we can't control that.
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Aug 2, 2019 18:19
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Uglycat posted:that's right https://www.southbendtribune.com/ne...f834f073f0.html So this article is just lying then? https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/henrygomez/mayor-pete-buttigieg-south-bend-gentrification And this article, which mentions how the city used aggressive code enforcement for homes on the "demo list," it's lying too? (The article has a lot of good things to say about Pete too, for what it's worth, but it sounds like his 1000 homes in 1000 days plan was a gentrifying nightmare)
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Aug 2, 2019 18:23
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That map only shows donors not voters. Let's not fool ourselves into thinking that crazies that donate to national campaigns mean that they are any sort of percentage that will help vote out Trump in 2020. And I'm highly suspect that these people are excited enough to donate anyway. A person making minimum wage isn't going to make the choice between feeding their kids or giving money to a millionaire. That money is mostly likely either from foreign sources or was gained illegitimately. /s
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Aug 2, 2019 18:23
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:I mean most of the candidates will not measurably improve the lives of the millions of Americans who are poor and dying from lack of healthcare but gently caress me for giving a poo poo about that I guess Which candidates’ healthcare plans do you imagine will pass Congress in 2021? Let me vote for this hero. yronic heroism fucked around with this message at 18:39 on Aug 2, 2019 |
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Aug 2, 2019 18:24
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Uglycat posted:that's right Are you saying that Pete's plan to fine people for minor issues never once led to someone losing their home? Or are you saying that because Pete forgot to measure racial impact we can't prove it had racial impact?
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Aug 2, 2019 18:25
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 I don’t understand this poll compared to the map of blue. Something’s Fucky....and choose to believe the map of blue.
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Aug 2, 2019 18:26
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Groovelord Neato posted:here's the full florida map: oops all bernies
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Aug 2, 2019 18:26
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This is like when Republicans try to show why the electoral college is actually good 
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Aug 2, 2019 18:33
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Gatts posted:
People who respond to phone polls are a distinct group from those who donateto campaign s.
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Aug 2, 2019 18:38
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King of Solomon posted:https://www.southbendtribune.com/ne...f834f073f0.html No, that happened. It's disgraceful. We set up a tent city for Occupy in 2011, when Pete was elected; he didn't clear us, but the weather did. It's not safe to be homeless in South Bend in the winter. Every winter since occupy, a tent city has gone up under that viaduct (near the tier-4 data center, around the corner from the fake AT&T NSA building). Every year, Pete has had it bulldozed - just as every mayor in every northern city does. Every year, I loudly protest. I'm tight with a lot of the homeless rights advocates in this town - and I know that Pete does lend his ear, which is a start. The tech his police force employs to clear the camp is the same they used to clear a lot of occupations in 2012. Announce that it's 'unsatary conditions', give lots of fair warning, try to offer (inadequate) help, set a deadline, yield a little, then bulldoze before the really dangerous weather hits. It's a poo poo way of doing it. Of course, Pete's also built actual residences, and a *lot* has been done in this town to afford homeless people /actual homes/. And, of course, that has not proven to be as easy or permanent a solution as Pete might have naively thought. I live in tents, squatting under bushes, when I'm not traveling. By my metrics, Pete good. Oh yeah, when that data server really gets running, it's going to have all this waste heat. They'll be pumping it as steam under the streets to warm nearby structures. That's going to turn the viaduct into something that /can/ be safely inhabited through the winter,. Not by design. I don't think Kevin Smith or Pete Buttigieg have thought about this yet. https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/henrygomez/mayor-pete-buttigieg-south-bend-gentrification And this article, which mentions how the city used aggressive code enforcement for homes on the "demo list," it's lying too? (The article has a lot of good things to say about Pete too, for what it's worth, but it sounds like his 1000 homes in 1000 days plan was a gentrifying nightmare) [/quote] Well, I'm facebook friends with Regina Williams-Preston, what can I ask her on your behalf? These are important issues - the issues Mayors in America in 2019 face. I want the overton window focused on /these issues/. Gentrification. Homeless rights. Antifascist direct action. Black lives matter. ACAB. Gentrification. Combined sewer overflow. Incrementalism vs. radical transformation. Evidence based best practices for going forward. Climate change. I don't want to be talking about Russian Hackers and North Korean bombs and a porn star in the white house. Pete's your candidate, if these are the issues you want to be at the forefront. Well, Bernie, /then/ Pete. Call it a hack, shifting the overton window. He's intimately familiar with these challenges, and has employed South Bend, Indiana has a laboratory for the last 8 years (with, I think, remarkable results - and while what's come of it is certainly not utopian, I've been through a LOT of cities in the last 2 years, and South Bend is the best put-together - whereas I lived here before pete took over, in the depths of the crash, and it was utterly devestated).
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Aug 2, 2019 18:48
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A billion words and none of them actually refuting the reality of what happened. Pete used a racist policy to kick people out of their homes, and defended it by refusing to track racial impact.
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Aug 2, 2019 18:50
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Uglycat posted:These are important issues - the issues Mayors in America in 2019 face. I want the overton window focused on /these issues/. Gentrification. Homeless rights. Antifascist direct action. Black lives matter. ACAB. Gentrification. Combined sewer overflow. Incrementalism vs. radical transformation. Evidence based best practices for going forward. Climate change. I don't want to be talking about Russian Hackers and North Korean bombs and a porn star in the white house. I guess "if you want these issues to be at the forefront, electing someone bad on those issues will accomplish that" is, uh, technically true. Mahoning posted:I'll admit I have a pretty small bubble on Twitter but I did not see a single person use #KamalaHarrisDestroyed unless they were talking about the fact that it was trending. And my bubble is pretty full of "Kamala Harris sucks and is a cop" kinda people. So if someone says "the Russian bots pushed the #KamalaHarrisDestroyed hashtag", I'm not gonna exactly doubt it because twitter sucks really bad and I have no doubt that they've done nothing to fix the whole bot issue to begin with. It doesn't make sense to treat as your default assumption (based on anecdotal evidence even) that a tag trending is due to Russia. I think this tag is largely trending among right-wingers, also, so that would explain why you aren't seeing it among left-leaning anti-Kamala people. In discussions about this issue, people frequently treat "Russia did a thing" and "the thing they did is relevant/meaningful" as synonymous (or at least put the burden on others to show it isn't meaningful), but this doesn't make sense. The burden of proof should be on people to show that whatever social media stuff Russia did actually had some sort of notable impact (which is doubtful given the low amount they spend on it). Uglycat posted:Name a possible us president that is not complicit. I mean Vermin (also a personal friend) is making a Colbert turn and seeking the Libertarian party nomination on a socialist playform. He also good - but not an experienced Administrator. It still isn't remotely clear why you think this guy is good, aside from having positive feelings towards the city he became mayor of. Stuff like being a Rhodes Scholar or going to Oxford isn't remotely good. Bill Clinton was also a Rhodes Scholar. I think (/hope) we can agree that Bill Clinton is very much Not Good. I'm actually kinda baffled regarding your opinion on this; I can understand pro-Buttigieg sentiment from some people, since Buttigieg has the type of personality/demeanor that is very appealing to upper-middle class white professionals, but you are not an upper-middle class professional (which is a good thing, just in case that somehow comes off like an insult). Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 18:54 on Aug 2, 2019 |
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Aug 2, 2019 18:50
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Trabisnikof posted:A billion words and none of them actually refuting the reality of what happened. Pete used a racist policy to kick people out of their homes, and defended it by refusing to track racial impact. The conspiracy thread is over there.
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Aug 2, 2019 18:53
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Uglycat posted:The conspiracy thread is over there.  I’m saying that those articles are factual and accurate and you can call them lies all you want, but you’ve yet to provide an ounce of proof.
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Aug 2, 2019 18:56
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Trabisnikof posted:
Well watch the rally that's happening downtown Saturday. BLM rally, following the death of a black man at the hands of SBPD, calling for the officer to be fired. I'll be there. I'll know most of the people there. Maybe I'll shoot some video for you.
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Aug 2, 2019 18:58
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Uglycat posted:Well watch the rally that's happening downtown Saturday. BLM rally, following the death of a black man at the hands of SBPD, calling for the officer to be fired. I'll be there. I'll know most of the people there. Maybe I'll shoot some video for you. Again, that’s just a nonsensical response to the fact Pete’s 1000 House policy was racist.
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Aug 2, 2019 19:00
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The nefarious conspiracy to pre-sink the candidacy of Pete Buttigieg about a year before anybody had ever heard of him sounds like a pretty wild story.
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Aug 2, 2019 19:02
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:if russia meddles theyll probably help bernie win. im fine with that. Russia's support for various political factions and parties has tended to be far-right, both in Europe and the US. They're not going to help Bernie win, and the belief that they're some kind of anti-imperialist paragon is mind-boggling when they're visibly a far-right capitalist state.
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Aug 2, 2019 19:02
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LinYutang posted:Indeed, blaming external actors is a pretty typical way to avoid introspection for one's failures. Like we can already see this with Bernie supporters already priming the narrative that his potential 2020 loss is because of the "establishment," instead of an inability to build a substantial coalition. He has more individual donors and more donations than any other candidate in the race?? What about all the other candidates inability to build as substantial a coalition as Bernie, huh??
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Aug 2, 2019 19:03
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Uglycat posted:Well watch the rally that's happening downtown Saturday. BLM rally, following the death of a black man at the hands of SBPD, calling for the officer to be fired. I'll be there. I'll know most of the people there. Maybe I'll shoot some video for you.
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Aug 2, 2019 19:04
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Uglycat posted:Well watch the rally that's happening downtown Saturday. BLM rally, following the death of a black man at the hands of SBPD, calling for the officer to be fired. I'll be there. I'll know most of the people there. Maybe I'll shoot some video for you. Can you say it to us today in front of all these cameras that black lives matter?” “Did you just ask me if black lives matter?” the normally unflappable Buttigieg replied, anger in his voice. “Yes, we want to hear you say it,” another said. “Of course black lives matter,” Buttigieg said into a microphone. “You running for president and you expect black people to vote for you?” a black woman asked him. “I’m not asking for your vote,” Buttigieg said. “You ain’t gonna get it either,” the woman shot back. Hell of a fella that Pete
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Aug 2, 2019 19:04
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Uglycat posted:Well watch the rally that's happening downtown Saturday. BLM rally, following the death of a black man at the hands of SBPD, calling for the officer to be fired. I'll be there. I'll know most of the people there. Maybe I'll shoot some video for you. Literally nobody's asking for proof that you exist, stop making this thread about you
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Aug 2, 2019 19:05
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Aug 2, 2019 19:05
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Poor Calibanibal may have finally met his match in uglycat, a poster whose arguments are literally beyond parody.
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Uglycat, just to head this all off at the pass, is there any argument or information that anyone here could present that would modify your opinion of Mayor Pete in any way?
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