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So, I'm missing a single ship stand for my Armada collection...a medium one, from the Imperial Light Cruiser. Are there any people out there making decent stand-ins for the ship stands/bases themselves? I didn't see any, and I've contacted FFG Customer Service to see if they would sell me one...but if there's an easier/quicker way than waiting for them to respond, I'm all ears. I don't even really need it, I just put all of my ships/squadrons on display on some shelves and don't want to leave it out 
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It'll be a few weeks but I 100% assure you FF will just send you one for free.
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Jul 27, 2019 00:25
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ShineDog posted:It'll be a few weeks but I 100% assure you FF will just send you one for free. Sounds good then. Just in time for the Super Star Destroyer to invade the top shelf 
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Jul 27, 2019 00:27
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So it looks like Armada's getting a wave of ST ships in the near future, I'm guessing in time for the next movie?  
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Aug 1, 2019 07:12
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Well I like the designs of those quite a bit whatever they are from.
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Aug 1, 2019 08:04
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I'm pretty sure those are both from The Last Jedi?
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Aug 1, 2019 08:11
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The New Republic ship hasn't appeared on film, but was mentioned in Battlefront 2 and the Aftermath books. The Onager Class hasn't been on film either, and was only briefly mentioned in a reference book as a Seige Breaker, with theoretical mini death star tech. Who knows what it actually has.
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Aug 1, 2019 09:29
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Going into leak territory here but as I understand it its got something like the seige gun from TLJ but bigger between the prongs
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Aug 1, 2019 09:34
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Carteret posted:The New Republic ship hasn't appeared on film, but was mentioned in Battlefront 2 and the Aftermath books.
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Aug 1, 2019 09:39
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Carteret posted:The New Republic ship hasn't appeared on film, but was mentioned in Battlefront 2 and the Aftermath books. Apparently the Onager is mentioned in that reference book as being an Imperial, not a First Order, ship, but word is that FFG is angling to be able to use these to cobble together First Order and New Republic factions for Armada, so who knows... Also, apparently spoilers for TROS indicate that a major plot point is the return from the Outer Reaches or whatever it's called of the Imperial remnant sent there by Palpatine. Only now it's become a Sith fleet with red ships and troopers, including modified Star Destroyers that include mini Death Star lasers inspired by this TFA concept art:  So even more Death Stars. Thanks JJ!!!  MeinPanzer fucked around with this message at 10:19 on Aug 1, 2019 |
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Aug 1, 2019 10:11
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It’s interesting that the rebels are getting yet another large base ship. At some point you would figure they would get another medium to supplement the Assault Frigate. Something a little more specialized that might see use.
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Aug 1, 2019 15:24
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The switchover from EU to new canon seems to have sort of left FFG struggling in places like that. There really aren't all that many ships of the required size in Star Wars.
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Aug 1, 2019 15:44
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The games kind of exist in a weird place, canon-wise. It seems like FFG is free to mine the old EU, or outright create a ship here and there (Raiders, anyone?). X-Wing had the same problem (to a greater degree) of straddling the Disney buyout, but I think Armada was in development when that happened. That could also be why they’re leaning into Clone Wars era ships, and they haven’t even touched the New Republic/Resistance/First Order era yet, either. I don’t think the FO ships would have to be that much bigger than their imperial counterparts, just noticeably bigger (that sliding scale is getting abused at this point, though).
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Aug 1, 2019 15:53
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The Raider is interesting in that it's an old EU ship that FFG created, which was then part of the EU to draw upon when EA wanted a small Imperial ship to use as a base for Battlefront II, so it made its way back into canon, but at a "higher" level due to the new structure. TBH I'm not sure what the distinction in size between it and the Arquitens is because the miniatures are so similar but they're totally differently styled. It is really cool to have multiple small ships that aren't Star Destroyers floating around though, even if they have ignored that the Dreadnought is canon again for some reason, even though it's hypothetically usable by the Rebellion too.
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Aug 1, 2019 16:04
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At one point I wanted to run an entire small-ship imperial list. It’s me, I’m the guy with 2 raiders and 2 arquitens Using all 4 of those and the Quasar carrier was my ultimate goal, but I never got around to it. My other gimmick list (3x nebulon b, 2x GR-75 flotillas, 10 squadrons) was too much fun for me to put down for long enough 
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Aug 1, 2019 16:53
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Official announcement: https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/...pl1xSbDymvL-GrI
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Aug 1, 2019 17:05
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I think especially for Armada they need the freedom to just make up ships. There's always an abundance of new fighters but the screen stuff is slow to reveal new ships. Honestly probably the biggest problem around FFG's neck is how the IP is just two sides and not that deep if you go by what's on screen.
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Eimi posted:I think especially for Armada they need the freedom to just make up ships. There's always an abundance of new fighters but the screen stuff is slow to reveal new ships. Honestly probably the biggest problem around FFG's neck is how the IP is just two sides and not that deep if you go by what's on screen. The rebels have quite a few if you squint real hard at the background of ESB and ROTJ. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5b0cxF8HOE But ultimately, I think the prequels will be Armada's strength. It's more about big fleet battles anyway.
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Aug 1, 2019 17:15
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The new Imperial Commander appears quite strong for only 20 points. Paraphrased: If a friendly ship makes an attack that is obstructed by a ship or obstacle, instead of removing a die, add a red die. Makes the obstacles a much more important part of the game for that commander.
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Aug 1, 2019 17:42
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Madurai posted:The rebels have quite a few if you squint real hard at the background of ESB and ROTJ. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5b0cxF8HOE
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Aug 2, 2019 02:11
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The Malevolence was only about 5km long, and I think that was the biggest separatist ship, outside of Lucrehulks? That’s only a bit bigger than the First Order Star destroyers (3km length), and bigger than any Mon Cal cruiser currently in the game. If the Venators get a large base, I’ll be surprised...they’re closer to a medium base size, in my mind.
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Aug 2, 2019 02:24
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It's not the scale vs other Armada ships I mean, it's the fact that even the smallest fleet engagements on-screen are at least a squadron of three Venators vs 5+ varied CIS ships of some form. I know the Battle of Coruscant is non-representative, but in a quick skim there I counted twenty five Venators before the camera angles made it difficult to keep track of which squadron was which. Their fighter capacities are pretty huge compared to the Rebellion era stuff too, with multiple hundreds of ships per bay.
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Aug 2, 2019 02:37
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I take it Imperial Assault is dead or on life support? What are the chances there'll be more content for the app? My local game store still has Heart of the Empire, but we haven't been playing the game very frequently lately, so I don't know if it's worth it.
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Aug 2, 2019 17:44
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Judging by what they did with Descent, I bet they'll keep supporting it for a while. Descent was dead as poo poo when the app came out and we got 3 campaigns and change. IA is still getting content, and they use their app stuff to drive purchases of expansions that undersold. Frustratingly, they are usually completely radio silent as to what their app plans are. Descent would go six months without news and then a campaign would drop from the sky with no fanfare. So expect a lot of annoyance.
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don’t worry, I’m sure they’ll shovel out impass 2.0 soon enough at a slightly different scale and ruleset to encourage you to rebuy it all
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Speaking of Imperial Assault...if anyone wants the core box, I’ve got one that I’ll probably never play, so it’s up for grabs. I’ll do my best to make sure all components are there, but I can’t promise that without looking through it. I’ll check it if someone wants the box, though...it just takes up space in my apartment. Ditto for the XCOM game, I just never got into it and don’t want it to collect dust at my place.
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Eimi posted:I think especially for Armada they need the freedom to just make up ships. There's always an abundance of new fighters but the screen stuff is slow to reveal new ships. Honestly probably the biggest problem around FFG's neck is how the IP is just two sides and not that deep if you go by what's on screen. Are the West End games and earlier EU creations still off the table? Seems like that still hasn't been mined completely.
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Aug 2, 2019 20:36
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Failson posted:Are the West End games and earlier EU creations still off the table? Seems like that still hasn't been mined completely. I thought the Interdictor was a WEG creation?
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ROCKET SCIENCE
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illectro posted:I thought the Interdictor was a WEG creation? It's in Rebels and the Armada one is based off it, not the Vindicator version.
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Arquinsiel posted:I dunno if Armada is small scale enough to do the prequels really. They'd want to be throwing around Venators and Providences on small bases at the largest with Arquitens and Peltas being the freighter-sized squadrons, and squadrons being a different type of gunfire. A scale change is a tempting idea, certainly, but I don't see them giving up the existing Arquitens mold, nor the ability to re-sell the Venator in Imperial colors. The only big-ship actions of any significance we saw in the OT were Scarif and Endor, and they're too big to do in Armada already. (I mean, in terms of standard match sizes. Scarif in particular could probably be wrangled if you had a good long time to play it out.)
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3 ISDs fit in a standard list with Vader (barely), but the sheer number of TIE fighters alone would be too much...and that's before getting into the rebel side of it. I think someone did the math on the FFG forums and it came out to like ~1000pts for the rebels, vs ~400 for the Empire (before the Death Star shows up, at least). Having said that, I've used an ISD with Vader as admiral and Gunnery Teams on board, and he sawed straight through a full rebel fleet I lined him up perfectly 
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Aug 2, 2019 23:33
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A link to the Armada GenCon winner's list if anyone is interested. http://www.steelstrategy.com/2019/08/the-ballad-of-garm.html?m=1#more
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This link has good pictures of every card in the new Armada Campaign box. https://cannotgetyourshipout.blogsp...o_uhefpMVI8&m=1 Some nifty ship titles in there that seem really useful. One lets a VSD turn 2 clicks at speed one and add engine techs. Or a nebB with gunnery teams and a redirect added.
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  I really like Rogue One and was patiently awaiting an Imperial assault expansion related to it but then Legion happened and IA appears to be at the very least on a physical product hiatus. I wanted to play all three games IA, XWing and Armada in a pseudo recreation of the movie, but I'm not investing in Legion just to get a couple of the character models when I would just have to mock up cards for them anyway to play in my nearly complete collection of IA. Also, finding a close aerial shot with a top-down perspective of the base on Scarif has not been easy for the X-wing section of the plan but I think it was Mel Miniatures that posted this image for the Armada level space map so I had it printed for about $45 with coupons.
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Aug 6, 2019 03:41
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Didn't Imperial Assault have a single-player (or co-op?) mode that one could play, via a helper app or something? I never played but I've always kinda wanted to, but playing with my husband is a complete no-go if it's 1v1 competitive.
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Drone posted:Didn't Imperial Assault have a single-player (or co-op?) mode that one could play, via a helper app or something? I never played but I've always kinda wanted to, but playing with my husband is a complete no-go if it's 1v1 competitive. Yeah, I'm pretty sure they released an app for it towards the end of its life.
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Aug 6, 2019 10:09
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Yup, called Legends of the Alliance.
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Aug 6, 2019 10:57
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drat that's a nice looking mat!
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Drone posted:Didn't Imperial Assault have a single-player (or co-op?) mode that one could play, via a helper app or something? I never played but I've always kinda wanted to, but playing with my husband is a complete no-go if it's 1v1 competitive. Yeah, I've played it, it's fun. The app is free, you tell it what IA products you have, and that unlocks more things. There's only one campaign if you only have the base game, but still a fair bit of gameplay, and it tells you what you need to unlock the other ones if you decide you enjoy it enough you want to do it. It works single player or co-op.
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Failson posted:Are the West End games and earlier EU creations still off the table? Seems like that still hasn't been mined completely. Madurai posted:A scale change is a tempting idea, certainly, but I don't see them giving up the existing Arquitens mold, nor the ability to re-sell the Venator in Imperial colors.  This shot is great. Super well done.
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