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ThomasPaine posted:I'm probably being super racist but I've always wondered about this because as far as I can see she's... not black? She has a white dad. Her mum is a not-super-dark-skinned black lady:
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ThomasPaine posted:I'm probably being super racist but I've always wondered about this because as far as I can see she's... not black? Her mother is African American. https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/2019072075521/meghan-markle-parents-mother-father-details-update/
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well I just wasted an hour of my life https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PFL0wMlhMw
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Anyone know if they made an updated Blue Yeti with Micro USB or USB C yet? The original only had MINI USB and was wobbly as gently caress, the most common failure point, I've still got one boxed up that I've been meaning to sell and replace with something a bit more reliable like a discounted Yeti Pro for the XLR connection.
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ThomasPaine posted:I'm probably being super racist but I've always wondered about this because as far as I can see she's... not black? she's mixed-race, which to the kind of gammons who camp out for a week to wave a flag whenever a royle babby gets popped out means she may as well be straight off a marmalade jar
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It's kind of an interesting thing because in some BAME communities there is a hierarchy of 'blackness' where (depending on the community/culture/class etc.) being light or dark skinned is seen as being more desirable.
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ThomasPaine posted:I'm probably being super racist but I've always wondered about this because as far as I can see she's... not black? She's mixed race by British standards, but that's offensive in a lot of places due to connotations to the whole "race mixing is communism" thing in the 50s. She's [long string of unprintable poo poo] by UK newspaper standards. As a pan-Africanist friend of mine likes to say, race is a myth, racism is real.
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Azza Bamboo posted:well I just wasted an hour of my life Lmao
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Azza Bamboo posted:well I just wasted an hour of my life  move over cassetteboy
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WhatEvil posted:It's kind of an interesting thing because in some BAME communities there is a hierarchy of 'blackness' where (depending on the community/culture/class etc.) being light or dark skinned is seen as being more desirable. One of the most shocking things I found in the Middle East is the prevalence of tv adverts for skin bleach "Fair and Lovely" with adverts suggesting that in order to get the good jobs and handsome guys you need to use it. Ironically, it is a Unilever product as is the Dove 'natural beauty' brand. I'm given to understand it is also heavily pushed in India, Pakistan and other eastern countries. A Nigerian friend I used to share a flat with told me that dumping yourself in a bleach bath to lighten skin was common in Nigeria when she was young.
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Heners_UK posted:Just curious if the podcasters have anything they'd recommend for those of us who spend all day on Online Meetings with headsets on. I figure that I'm spending so much time presenting etc I should put some effort into the audio. Chances are whatever online meeting software you're using will be compressing the audio anyway, so not likely to make that much difference.
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Some podcast titles: Agreeing With Nick A Requiem for Pissflaps Glinner's Super Rainbow Funtime Hour Crispcast (the Monster Munch veneration station) Five Go Spare In Brexit The (un)Official Change UK podcast
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Aug 3, 2019 17:25
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Ratjaculation posted:I look forward to no-one learning from this dam incident, that our infrastructure is almost completely unsuitable for our changing climate. don't be silly, ain't noone got time for pointless stuff like "infrastructure" when there's ~~brexit~~ to think about
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:One of the most shocking things I found in the Middle East is the prevalence of tv adverts for skin bleach "Fair and Lovely" with adverts suggesting that in order to get the good jobs and handsome guys you need to use it. Ironically, it is a Unilever product as is the Dove 'natural beauty' brand. Worth remembering that while skin-lightening treatments are often relics of colonialism, they aren't always. Pale skin was admired and fetishised in East Asia long before white people had any real presence there simply because it was a symbol of wealth and sophistication - you could afford to stay out of the sun, unlike those grubby brown peasants. Same reason being fat was often seen as something to aspire to - the sixteenth-century Chinese adventure novel Journey to the West goes into quite a lot of detail about what a sexy BBM Tang Sanzang (one of the two main characters) is. Darth Walrus fucked around with this message at 17:31 on Aug 3, 2019 |
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BizarroAzrael posted:Some podcast titles: https://twitter.com/lfeatherstone/status/1134821134833258497 Also not to piss on anyone's chips but if you make this podcast about UKMT jokes you're better off just keeping it as a conference call because there's nobody outside this thread who will understand or care about jokes about crisps or mandolins.
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This is pretty good. https://twitter.com/YoungScotsUnion/status/1157687657973071872?s=20
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Also not to piss on anyone's chips but if you make this podcast about UKMT jokes you're better off just keeping it as a conference call because there's nobody outside this thread who will understand or care about jokes about crisps or mandolins. I would probably put piss above mushy peas myself.
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BizarroAzrael posted:Some podcast titles:
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Guavanaut posted:Can't believe there isn't a UK podcast called It's Never Sunny And Paedophilia Yet.
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WhatEvil posted:This is pretty good.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:https://twitter.com/lfeatherstone/status/1134821134833258497 Well, nobody understands it but everyone will get the joke. It wouldn't surprise me if it's on the Life In The UK test.
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Azza Bamboo posted:well I just wasted an hour of my life Do we really need to resort to mocking Tory women by claiming ownership of their sex organs? If someone had made a video like this about Laura Pidcock we'd rightly be calling it out. There's plenty of things to have a go at Liz Truss about cause she's a raging oval office, we don't need to reduce her to her actual one.
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oscarthewilde posted:Few pages back, but just I was busy helping someone move today so a bit of a late response, but I can't say I agree. Especially when it comes to your characterisation of rationality in neo-liberal politics. Neo-liberalism does in fact rely in great part on a rational modernity and a very particular conception of rationality. As you, quite rightly, say neo-liberalism does in fact rely on a totally rational market as the foundation of their politics, but within this market and within their politics people are completely and totally rational. Their entire conception of man is one of a Homo Economicus, the rational actor in a market situation who would always do what is rational in a particular situation. This gives them the ability to claim that the market does not allow for any kind of discrimination. There would be no need for top-down measures to alleviate in-equality, both in opportunity and outcome, because no market (which is perfectly rational by definition) would allow for this kind of irrational behaviour. Very much agreed that neoliberalism isn't as heinous as fascism, I just found the parallels kind of interesting, that's all! The disagreement here is down to definitions of neoliberalism, I think. For neoclassical economics, yes, the individual actor is taken to be rational. I'm running with the Philip Mirowski historical / textual analysis of neoliberalism as a project of political philosophy; it's a view based on what the founding members of the Neoliberal Thought Collective wrote and spread, not always founded in neoclassical econ, and a large part of the foundation being Hayek. One of the things in Hayek (from my second-hand understanding) is the assumption that individuals are not Homo Economicus (there's a quote where he calls people "naturally socialistic", or words to that effect; basically, people don't work like free markets want). Another is that markets are the best possible way to process information; humans cannot process information to the same capacity as a market, because there is too much unknown, too much hidden, which markets reveal and consolidate through the process of transactions (this forms part of a natural neoliberal defence against socialism - rational planning cannot exist, because it's not market-based, so misses stuff, hence cannot be rational as a market can). So as a political project, for the best, most rational, social outcomes, neoliberal societies must force people to become market actors so the markets work properly - it tries to constantly shape the individual into Homo Economicus using societal structures of discipline or control (and frequently fails); it's an ongoing process as opposed to an upfront assumption. (This is also where the anti-democratic aspect comes from, iirc - markets become better at democracy than actual democracy, because they reveal more about people's preferences through exchange than human "rationality" can understand and express through voting.) I saw a pretty good summary of the difference between liberalism and neoliberalism as something like: liberalism - descriptive, assumes the nature of humans is trade and barter (i.e. economic), so they must be left alone as far as possible; neoliberalism - constructive, assumes the nature of humans is not economic, so they must be made economic using whatever means necessary, frequently via the state (e.g. JobCentre as a shaping disciplinary process). If anyone's interested in this view on neoliberalism, there are free papers by Mirowski The Political Movement That Dared Not Speak Its Own Name Hell Is Truth Seen Too Late (he's done HITSTL as a lecture too, I'd really recommend it) and his book Never Let A Serious Crisis Go To Waste, which is great reading and where most of this analysis comes from. ed: he's better at explaining it, with sources and all
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Rarity posted:Do we really need to resort to mocking Tory women by claiming ownership of their sex organs? If someone had made a video like this about Laura Pidcock we'd rightly be calling it out. There's plenty of things to have a go at Liz Truss about cause she's a raging oval office, we don't need to reduce her to her actual one. I get the feeling I've done something bad I don't fully understand. I'm willing to trust your judgment on this because you're much more informed on feminism etc than I am. On a practical level, what do I need to do now to put this wrong right?
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I know this isn't exactly a controversial opinion but Lizz Truss is a loving imbecile.
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Well gosh. I have never seen a more perfect summation of the Liberal Democrats.
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Azza Bamboo posted:I get the feeling I've done something bad I don't fully understand. I'm willing to trust your judgment on this because you're much more informed on feminism etc than I am. On a practical level, what do I need to do now to put this wrong right? 6 months complete isolation in a tibetan camp, bare minimum
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Wait Tibet still exists? I thought there was only China.
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WhatEvil posted:This is pretty good. These idiots can't even stand up to the most basic of follow up questions. It's probably why the media asks them so little.
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Azza Bamboo posted:Wait Tibet still exists? I thought there was only China. Depends who you ask.
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Azza Bamboo posted:Wait Tibet still exists? I thought there was only China. oh it still exists, and there are still tibetan camps
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Azza Bamboo posted:That's definitely not what I was picturing when I heard "Tibetan Camp". Funny, it’s exactly what I was picturing.
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I wasn't going to drink tonight but there's a music festival on in a park 5 minutes walk from my new place in Bristol and oh, well.
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Azza Bamboo posted:I get the feeling I've done something bad I don't fully understand. I'm willing to trust your judgment on this because you're much more informed on feminism etc than I am. On a practical level, what do I need to do now to put this wrong right? Yeah, I found it a bit difficult to put into words. Essentially I feel like reducing Liz Truss down to an 'lol she wants to be hosed' joke marginalises her as an MP and in favour of sexual objectification. Sure, she's an awful horrible cunty MP but she's still an MP and women MPs should be recognised as such. Plus there's some slut-shamey vibes in there as well. It's not like you need to do anything as penance or anything, just kinda be more aware of this stuff in future?
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Pistol_Pete posted:I wasn't going to drink tonight but there's a music festival on in a park 5 minutes walk from my new place in Bristol and oh, well. Oh poo poo which festival?
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Azza Bamboo posted:I get the feeling I've done something bad I don't fully understand. I'm willing to trust your judgment on this because you're much more informed on feminism etc than I am. On a practical level, what do I need to do now to put this wrong right? it's just a bit skeevy to sexualise her as a way of mocking her - the right does it a lot, whenever some woman speaks out about something, a common thing they do is photoshop her performing sex acts or being violated, as a way to humiliate women and assert dominance over them. When AOC was visiting those camps, there was a huge social media group for border guards that got exposed, and that kind of stuff was being posted in there (as well as, like, calls for a guard to assault her and they'd crowdfund a reward) I know you were going for more of a silly joke, but it's still not the kind of thing you want to do because it's still objectifying her, y'know? I'd go with lengthening the awkward awkward pauses (especially if you can find frames that link perfectly so you can't see the jump) or just "I've been in Beijing, opening new pork markets! *applause* THAT IS A DISGRACE" e- I've been in Yorkshire! THAT IS A DISGRACE shoutout to owlfancier
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