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If the deep state run the show how did trump get elected in the first place according to the q people
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History Comes Inside! posted:If the deep state run the show how did trump get elected in the first place according to the q people I think their logic is that his win was so overwhelming the deep state could only fudge it so much.
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Aug 3, 2019 15:20
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There’s not much of a gulf between q people and trump voters generally., is there? They’re all prone to violence under the right circumstance.
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Aug 3, 2019 15:29
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I think Qanon people might be some of the most aware Trump supporters. They realize that Trump appears to have done almost nothing that they wanted, so they rationalize that by saying things are happening in secret. They recognize that Trump appears to be a stumbling moron, so they rationalize that by saying it's an act.
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Aug 3, 2019 15:45
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The Chairman posted:As long as Trump's president I think the Qanon population's going to remain sated and keep trusting the process. I'd be worried about what happens when he's no longer President, especially if he loses next year or dies suddenly. I'm more worried about the election. Donny Smoothbrain has absolutely no problems inciting violence to get another boost to his ego. Leading up to the election it'll be all about how the perfidious Democrat is a threat to our nation and "someone" should "do something" about all those vicious, murderous antifa super soldier liberal snowflakes in their safe spaces. I'm thoroughly convinced he's going to tell his followers to "watch the polls" so "illegals" don't vote and, well, hey, ya never know how violent those "illegals" are so maybe have a second amendment solution on hand when you're standing there.
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Aug 3, 2019 15:50
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Blattdorf posted:If everyone is so concerned about Q, why not just ask the president about it? The press sure seems to spend a lot of time acknowledging Q's existence and disparaging it, but they can't be bothered to prod Trump about it. Isn't the president supposed to be a central figure in all of this? 🍊 posted:He is, I’m told, an incredible person. The most, amazing, people. I love him, and he, I think, loves me. I have the best followers. The best. They know, they know there’s no collusion. They know it’s a witch hunt. So he does too. I know it. And James Comey, it’s incredible what they let him get away with. Very illegal. The worst. That’s what would happen. Word salad congratulating himself and vomiting his catchphrases because he has no idea what the gently caress QAnon is beyond that they support him, and he really doesn’t care.
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Aug 3, 2019 17:03
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RagnarokAngel posted:Honestly people have killed for far less. I think you're really assuming too much about how far reaching this could be. It's pure sensationalism. Yeah, the nearest comparison I can think of is 90s NWO theories which were way more mainstream and (depending on how exactly you want to classify their influence on the militia movements) had *way* more of a body count.
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Aug 3, 2019 17:22
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bird food bathtub posted:I'm more worried about the election. Donny Smoothbrain has absolutely no problems inciting violence to get another boost to his ego. Leading up to the election it'll be all about how the perfidious Democrat is a threat to our nation and "someone" should "do something" about all those vicious, murderous antifa super soldier liberal snowflakes in their safe spaces. I'm thoroughly convinced he's going to tell his followers to "watch the polls" so "illegals" don't vote and, well, hey, ya never know how violent those "illegals" are so maybe have a second amendment solution on hand when you're standing there. That's too small minded. He'll lead up by saying the election is rigged, then refute the results if he loses. It's a built in defense for not stepping down.
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Aug 3, 2019 17:39
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Blue Moonlight posted:That’s what would happen. Word salad congratulating himself and vomiting his catchphrases because he has no idea what the gently caress QAnon is beyond that they support him, and he really doesn’t care. So he'd make a fool of himself and shake Q follower's faith in the whole movement. Wouldn't that be desirable? He'd turn a lot of people away from him.
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Aug 3, 2019 18:01
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Blattdorf posted:So he'd make a fool of himself and shake Q follower's faith in the whole movement. Wouldn't that be desirable? He'd turn a lot of people away from him. He makes a fool of himself almost daily, so nothing new there. Followers would just say he has to keep the mainstream media off the scent, trust the plan, blah blah blah, if they don’t treat it as outright confirmation that Q is real.
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Aug 3, 2019 18:49
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Blattdorf posted:So he'd make a fool of himself and shake Q follower's faith in the whole movement. Wouldn't that be desirable? He'd turn a lot of people away from him. If you haven't been keeping track, QAnon is literally built around the sort of mental gymnastics where anything validating Q is praised and anything that would seem to invalidate Q is merely disinformation or playing 4 dimensional chess. There is no desireable outcome if Trump talks about Q.
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Aug 3, 2019 18:49
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im on the net me boys posted:If you haven't been keeping track, QAnon is literally built around the sort of mental gymnastics where anything validating Q is praised and anything that would seem to invalidate Q is merely disinformation or playing 4 dimensional chess. There is no desireable outcome if Trump talks about Q. I think if he talks about Q-anon in a specific and clear way there are some potential voters who would be turned off by that. I know D&D likes to pretend otherwise, but I do think there are a significant number of voters who are economically fragile and don't give a gently caress about racism. So in a sense, they're passively racist. But these are the same voters who were pro-Bernie and then pro-Trump, the system isn't working for them and they want the system to change. If they see Trump actively courting a lunatic fringe that might help sway them.
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Aug 3, 2019 19:28
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Blattdorf posted:So he'd make a fool of himself and shake Q follower's faith in the whole movement. Wouldn't that be desirable? He'd turn a lot of people away from him. If you count the times he said Tshinaaa in the speech and add 4 to that you get 17 and the 17th letter of the alphabet is Q. So he outright confirmed Q and now there can be no doubt left. e: ffs, one of the q accounts outright said that JFK Jr. is dead and they took it as confirmation that he is alive.
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Aug 3, 2019 19:31
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If all Qanon can manage in about a year and a half is two deaths, it's way the gently caress behind the general Republican party with the 55 school shooting deaths it's directly responsible for in just 2018.
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Aug 3, 2019 20:15
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The "armed feral urban thugs are going to home-invasion you" conspiracy theory is far more dangerous than the goofy Q-Anon poo poo. Edit: To elaborate, most of the people who follow the conspiracy theory stuff like Pizzagate or Qanon don't really believe it. They like to sorta believe it, but they don't really believe it. If you really thought that your neighbor had a dungeon full of children that he was abusing, you wouldn't just fart around on the internet talking about it, you'd be calling the police every day or take matters into your own hands. Only a few Q people have believed the stuff hard enough to actually take it seriously and act, but there are a ton of people who buy personal arsenals because they're afraid of urban gangs attacking their suburb. Dr. Arbitrary fucked around with this message at 20:28 on Aug 3, 2019 |
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Aug 3, 2019 20:24
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pop fly to McGillicutty posted:That's too small minded. He'll lead up by saying the election is rigged, then refute the results if he loses. It's a built in defense for not stepping down. It's pretty clear that was his plan if he lost the first time around.
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Aug 3, 2019 20:41
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I agree that there are presently way more violent movements than QAnon that we should worry about right now but I still think it's not great to be dismissive of how it could get worse
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Aug 3, 2019 21:19
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I worry less about the QAnon mobility scooter corps getting violent and more about cross-pollination - already-violent groups latching onto specific aspects of Q mythology, even if they don't buy into the whole thing.
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Aug 3, 2019 22:11
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https://twitter.com/travis_view/status/1157762553235136513 See, Qanon thinks that these violent attacks are deep state false flags, mass shooters don't have high regard in their specific community, like they do on 8chan.
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Aug 3, 2019 22:26
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im on the net me boys posted:I agree that there are presently way more violent movements than QAnon that we should worry about right now but I still think it's not great to be dismissive of how it could get worse It just doesn't seem like it's in the cards for what Q-anon is and the makeup of its followers. Q-anon: very bad things are happening, you are of the elect in that you know this, a nebulous we are fighting on your behalf, your role is to understand the clues and disseminate the truth. If any of the various Q-anon prophets call for action, they'll be discredited and called false flag deep-state operations. Christianity is actually a brutally violent doctrine with apocalyptic prophecy, but for basically the last 500 years the people who said: "yes that's true, but you are a believer and essentially a good spectator" are the ones who've attracted followers. It's comparatively rare to see truly religious violence committed by Christians, given they make up about 1/4 of the world's population, spread across every continent.
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Aug 3, 2019 22:59
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/travis_view/status/1157762553235136513 Ah yes, the Deep State wanted Hurd to not run again so they shot up a Walmart...after he announced he wasn't running again.
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Aug 3, 2019 23:24
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1stGear posted:Ah yes, the Deep State wanted Hurd to not run again so they shot up a Walmart...after he announced he wasn't running again. no see the white hats are the good guys, so the good guys made Hurd step down because he's...in on the conspiracy against Trump because I think he once disagreed with Trump about the wall maybe? So THIS is the deep state fighting back by...shooting up a wallmart...
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Aug 3, 2019 23:37
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I believe the deep state are like dogs and they just sort of do things arbitrarily.
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Aug 3, 2019 23:46
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90s Cringe Rock posted:I believe the deep state are like dogs and they just sort of do things arbitrarily. true fact: one time I saw a deep state lizard person fart themselves out of a sound sleep
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Aug 3, 2019 23:51
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SatansOnion posted:true fact: one time I saw a deep state lizard person fart themselves out of a sound sleep Stop saying that I'm your WIFE, Gerald
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Aug 3, 2019 23:53
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https://twitter.com/lib_crusher/status/1157124771525681152?s=21
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Aug 4, 2019 05:00
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/travis_view/status/1157762553235136513 The “they think we’re literal garbage” guy may have a point.
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Aug 4, 2019 05:24
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The Satanic Panic in the 80s was about the widespread belief that ritualized child abuse was being carried out by Satanic cults in daycares. Meanwhile, actual evangelical schools and the Catholic Church really WERE carrying out child abuse on a mass scale. Pizzagate/Qanon represents a widespread belief that the elites are running pedophile sex rings. In real life, well, they are but also Trump is one of them. The 'populist right', represented by Infowars, believes that the global elite are preparing to genocide the vast majority of the human race and institute a police state. In actuality, we already live in a police state and the elite are planning to sacrifice most of the human race to climate catastrophe while they slink off to New Zealand. Conspiracy theories aren't even wrong, they're just a form of false consciousness to deal with the crimes of the powerful without sacrificing the belief in violent hierarchy that ALL conservatives believe in. That a billionaire can gently caress kids without problem is a condemnation of billionaires even existing. Contraction Cycles are just a natural result of the inherent contradictions of Capital which is why they only exist on the right.
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Aug 4, 2019 05:28
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Mantis42 posted:Contraction Cycles are just a natural result of the inherent contradictions of Capital which is why they only exist on the right. I wouldn't agree with "only". Ideological purity tests are for everyone!
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Aug 4, 2019 05:35
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Marxist-Leninists deal with their contradictions via rational self-criticism, actually.
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Aug 4, 2019 05:42
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I'm going to assume that's a joke
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Aug 4, 2019 05:49
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Mantis42 posted:Meanwhile, actual evangelical schools and the Catholic Church really WERE carrying out child abuse on a mass scale. https://www.insideedition.com/headl...rge-authorities https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/trump-s-oklahoma-campaign-chair-plead-guilt-child-sex-trafficking-n822461 quote:Child prostitution charges have been filed against Oklahoma Sen. Ralph Shortey, a member of President Trump’s state leadership team, after he was found with an underage boy in a motel room, authorities said Thursday. quote:Trump's Oklahoma campaign chair to plead guilt to child sex trafficking https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/06/03/trump-transition-figure-arrested-on-child-porn-charges/ quote:Trump transition figure arrested on child porn charges
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Aug 4, 2019 14:30
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Did Voat lock everything behind a registration page?
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Aug 4, 2019 17:27
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I'm at work so must be in haste: These two shooters, the Garlic Festival and the El Paso one , looking so alike is VERY UNFORTUNATE. I admit its uncanny, however I doubt it's some kind of false flag, we. But I can imagine how effing nuts Qrazies and conspiracy fans are going rn. I think this is enough to convince those who might have been wavering, and even bring some disillusioned Qtips back to the fold. Dang.
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Aug 4, 2019 17:56
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Spins posted:I'm at work so must be in haste: Vat grown. Obviously.
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Aug 4, 2019 18:03
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Spins posted:I'm at work so must be in haste: ehh the similarity is pretty much just "has prominent nose that looks kinda flat in the middle", "same hair color", "wears same glasses" (lol)
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Aug 4, 2019 18:30
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GreyjoyBastard posted:ehh the similarity is pretty much just "has prominent nose that looks kinda flat in the middle", "same hair color", "wears same glasses" (lol) Yeah almost any given detail of their face is very different.
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Aug 4, 2019 18:45
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Aug 4, 2019 18:55
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We already know that a common trait to Qanon is face blindness
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FFT posted:We already know that a common trait to Qanon is face blindness Yeah sadly. I mean we're agreeing people with face blindness will see them as identical but they would also see both of them as being secretly John Candy.
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