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Hurt Whitey Maybe
Jun 26, 2008

I mean maybe not. Or maybe. Definitely don't kill anyone.

Zzulu posted:

How come a homeless man makes more than me??? My life is utter poo poo? I'm incredibly unhappy!!! and this motherfucker is making bank while I have to be miserable at my job all day being the depressed sad sack that I am?? That homeless man deserves punishment! To make me feel better!

I’d be mad too if I was so underpaid it would make more sense to beg on the streets than go to my job. poo poo I’m on salary and work plenty of unpaid overtime, so who’s the dipshit, me or the homeless guy

it’s me

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Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9c1vSIpHA0

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

SplitSoul posted:

:hmmyes:

Latest example is the right losing its loving mind because the new government (which is also poo poo) decided to accept UN quota refugees again. Precisely 30 of them, those absolutely worst off.

Interestingly, the far-right lost a lot of steam in the election. The Danish People's Party was more than halved, although the New Bourgeois narrowly made it in and they're like the worst mix of ancaps and fascists. Thankfully, the literally brain-damaged lawyer who burns Qur'ans publicly and wants to ethnically cleanse the country didn't make it in (still got 1.8% of the vote, though).

ya turns out that there's quite a lot of basically nationalist centre-left voters in scandinavia and they are more xenophobic than left, so if they don't have anyone in the left bloc that caters to them they go fash

in norway, our big Racist Party For People Who Hate Immigrants has been pretty consistently at 10-15% for years. our farmers, decentralisation and vulgar patriotism party, the Centre, are currently growing, but since they prefer cooperating to the left, they're somehow effectively a major force against the sort of complete normalisation of the far right that you've got in denmark

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



Shame Boy posted:

Oh speaking of people who aren't chuds, I just got back from vacation last week and part of that was visiting my relatives. My uncle in particular was fun to interact with - he's basically a traditional northern-state conservative, in that he's for low taxes and small government but on social issues he's completely fine, thinks gays are ok, didn't even misgender my trans wife or anything, and he's pretty OK with unions because the teacher's union got him a pretty sweet retirement plan that he recognizes isn't really A Thing for most people. Anyway I think Trump has completely broken his brain. He hates Trump and everything Trump stands for, yet Trump represents basically everything that was just under the surface of the conservatism he's supported for his whole life, and it's clearly tearing him apart at the seams. Like my mom got talking to him about socialism (cuz she's a good ol' rabble-rousing socialist), and he just couldn't stomach the term, but when she phrased it in different words and mentioned Trump didn't like it he was totally for it.

My favorite part was when we got talking about how New York state (where he lives) was giving absurd tax breaks to companies to move to the state, like 10 years with no state taxes on top of all the incentives they're definitely already getting from the state and cities and counties. Someone mentioned the goal was to "create jobs" and he almost immediately went "well that's good! create jobs, lower taxes!" etc. and then I mentioned that as a result the cities in the region were clearly facing budget shortfalls and unable to cover basic infrastructure upgrades and maintenance and he immediately flipped to "that's bad! i'll have to pay for that from my taxes instead I bet! they should pay fair taxes!" and as the conversation went on he kept rapidly oscillating back and forth between "taxes bad, praise be to the job creators" and "wait everything around where I live is falling apart and the city needs money to fix it and stuff still needs to get paid for, if they don't pay taxes then I bet I'll have to pay higher taxes! Taxes good, tax those drat corporations and the rich!"

I'm not sure if he'll ever wind up figuring out or admitting that he's actually a pro-labor socialist but at least it was fun to watch :allears:

are you going to get him to vote for bernie

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

V. Illych L. posted:

ya turns out that there's quite a lot of basically nationalist centre-left voters in scandinavia and they are more xenophobic than left, so if they don't have anyone in the left bloc that caters to them they go fash

All it took was the Social Democrats and the Socialists caving on literally having a different set of laws for criminals in low-income areas, selling or demolishing affordable municipal housing, making the actual legal term "ghetto" defined by ethnicity, concentration camps with enforced prison-quality food next to army training grounds, but at least they nixed the former government's plans to build a concentration camp on a presently quarantined, uninhabited island used for animal disease research (the connecting ferry is named VIRUS), so I guess maybe that's something.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Shear Modulus posted:

are you going to get him to vote for bernie

My mom sure was trying to, or at least to explain to him that "democratic socialism" and "social democracy" and the other weak barely-socialisms that Bernie and the other left democrats stand for doesn't mean that we'd instantly rename New York City to Khrushchevgrad and send everyone living there to a gulag in Minnesota New Siberia. He was pretty resistant still but more open to like, honest discussion and facts than most conservatives I've met, so good for him :shrug:

Boksi
Jan 11, 2016

Shame Boy posted:

My mom sure was trying to, or at least to explain to him that "democratic socialism" and "social democracy" and the other weak barely-socialisms that Bernie and the other left democrats stand for doesn't mean that we'd instantly rename New York City to Khrushchevgrad and send everyone living there to a gulag in Minnesota New Siberia. He was pretty resistant still but more open to like, honest discussion and facts than most conservatives I've met, so good for him :shrug:

Talk to him about good ol' Merican Sewer Socialism and how the best-selling economist Henry George(American born and raised) has been completely buried by Big Money types despite the enormous influence his work had, being comparable to Adam Smith and Marx.

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

speaking as a seattle resident and working class schrub, I can say that pay docking, timesheet fuckery, and general shitheadedness is very much so a thing, and our city politicians can't do poo poo. I used to think Seattle was to the left, but it's basically just Neoliberalism: The City where we have rainbow painted crosswalks and legalized weed for the nazis and Amazon executives to enjoy

Bombadilillo
Feb 28, 2009

The dock really fucks a case or nerfing it.

Looking at Seattle. New York did great when they told Amazon to gently caress off.

Tiberius Christ
Mar 4, 2009

T-man posted:

speaking as a seattle resident and working class schrub, I can say that pay docking, timesheet fuckery, and general shitheadedness is very much so a thing, and our city politicians can't do poo poo. I used to think Seattle was to the left, but it's basically just Neoliberalism: The City where we have rainbow painted crosswalks and legalized weed for the nazis and Amazon executives to enjoy

Hello fellow seattle goon I hope your voting for inslee as well hes such a snacc!

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
I thought you said "paid docking" for a second and I was ready to move to Seattle

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
So Frasier is basically extremely accurate.

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

T-man posted:

speaking as a seattle resident and working class schrub, I can say that pay docking, timesheet fuckery, and general shitheadedness is very much so a thing, and our city politicians can't do poo poo. I used to think Seattle was to the left, but it's basically just Neoliberalism: The City where we have rainbow painted crosswalks and legalized weed for the nazis and Amazon executives to enjoy

its really lol to me as a california redneck that this state somehow still has the perception of being super progressive. other places have had gay mayors and didn't assassinate them, or ban gay marriage, or didnt forcibly sterilize female prisoners (guess which minority most of them were) up into 2013.

also most states didnt have industrial scale death camps for natives

Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

Choose this life you're on your own

Larry Parrish posted:

its really lol to me as a california redneck that this state somehow still has the perception of being super progressive. other places have had gay mayors and didn't assassinate them, or ban gay marriage, or didnt forcibly sterilize female prisoners (guess which minority most of them were) up into 2013.

also most states didnt have industrial scale death camps for natives

I've said it before, I'll say it again.

California is just Texas with more gay people and worse BBQ

Bombadilillo
Feb 28, 2009

The dock really fucks a case or nerfing it.

Forceholy posted:

I've said it before, I'll say it again.

California is just Texas with more gay people and worse BBQ

Ca is so huge and diverse that this is a real dumb statement

KiteAuraan
Aug 5, 2014

JER GEDDA FERDA RADDA ARA!


Some the gently caress how Phoenix (the actual city, not the metro area with its suburbs) seems less hostile to the homeless than San Francisco and Seattle.

It fucks with me, because Phoenix PD loving sucks.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Cops are bad. Rich people are worse.

VanSandman
Feb 16, 2011
SWAP.AVI EXCHANGER

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Cops are bad. Rich people are worse.

It's mostly this. Cops won't have any power without the government willing to back them up, and the government is controlled by and for the rich.

a new study bible!
Feb 2, 2009



BIG DICK NICK
A Philadelphia Legend
Fly Eagles Fly


What's the best way to destroy a lime scooter without recourse? Someone left a few of them blocking the sidewalk in front of my building and I'd like to remove them.

StrugglingHoneybun
Jan 2, 2005

Aint no thing like me, 'cept me.

a new study bible! posted:

What's the best way to destroy a lime scooter without recourse? Someone left a few of them blocking the sidewalk in front of my building and I'd like to remove them.

Buy a $20 kit from china to reprogram it to a regular electric scooter without gps or payments. Praxis.

duz
Jul 11, 2005

Come on Ilhan, lets go bag us a shitpost


a new study bible! posted:

What's the best way to destroy a lime scooter without recourse? Someone left a few of them blocking the sidewalk in front of my building and I'd like to remove them.

if they are blocking the sidewalk, toss them in a nearby waterway, field, alley or dumpster
if they are just an annoyance, sticker over the qr code

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

a new study bible! posted:

What's the best way to destroy a lime scooter without recourse? Someone left a few of them blocking the sidewalk in front of my building and I'd like to remove them.

Take it apart and sell it to a scrap yard and take the electronics to a recycling place that pays you by weight.

Lambert
Apr 15, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
Fallen Rib

duz posted:

if they are blocking the sidewalk, toss them in a nearby waterway, field, alley or dumpster
if they are just an annoyance, sticker over the qr code

How about no, don't pollute waterways or fields. This suggestion really is prime capitalism.png.

Also, maybe consider why so much space is reserved for cars but it's suddenly a huge issue to you when new modes of transportation come around.


a new study bible! posted:

What's the best way to destroy a lime scooter without recourse? Someone left a few of them blocking the sidewalk in front of my building and I'd like to remove them.

Act like a normal person instead of a weirdo right-winger/goon and go around it.

a new study bible!
Feb 2, 2009



BIG DICK NICK
A Philadelphia Legend
Fly Eagles Fly


What are the cameras like on those things?

a new study bible!
Feb 2, 2009



BIG DICK NICK
A Philadelphia Legend
Fly Eagles Fly


Lambert posted:

How about no, don't pollute waterways or fields. This suggestion really is prime capitalism.png.

Also, maybe consider why so much space is reserved for cars but it's suddenly a huge issue to you when new modes of transportation come around.


Act like a normal person instead of a weirdo right-winger/goon and go around it.

I'll tell my disabled neighbor to take her wheelchair offroad. Thanks.

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

KiteAuraan posted:

Some the gently caress how Phoenix (the actual city, not the metro area with its suburbs) seems less hostile to the homeless than San Francisco and Seattle.

It fucks with me, because Phoenix PD loving sucks.

They're only less hostile because they just buy them bus tickets to the coast.

Lambert
Apr 15, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
Fallen Rib

a new study bible! posted:

I'll tell my disabled neighbor to take her wheelchair offroad. Thanks.

Yeah, cars should really be removed to make more space for the disabled, I agree.

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

a new study bible! posted:

I'll tell my disabled neighbor to take her wheelchair offroad. Thanks.

Why don't you just go move them? Idk if they have cameras but yeah don't dump them into a river or whatever.

Lambert
Apr 15, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
Fallen Rib

Moridin920 posted:

Why don't you just go move them? Idk if they have cameras but yeah don't dump them into a river or whatever.

Because he's a weirdo asking on forums about property destruction.

Lambert has issued a correction as of 17:20 on Aug 4, 2019

a new study bible!
Feb 2, 2009



BIG DICK NICK
A Philadelphia Legend
Fly Eagles Fly


Lambert posted:

Yeah, cars should really be removed to make more space for the disabled, I agree.

Across the sidewalk?

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
we have the rental bike versions of these in Sacramento and theres a bunch of bike rack space now... that your only allowed to use for the lovely expensive rental bikes.

a new study bible!
Feb 2, 2009



BIG DICK NICK
A Philadelphia Legend
Fly Eagles Fly


Forums user Lambert thinks that you drive cars on sidewalks... Right winger identified.

mandatory lesbian
Dec 18, 2012

a new study bible! posted:

Forums user Lambert thinks that you drive cars on sidewalks... Right winger identified.

He might just be from New Jersey, where I've seen people use them as right hand turn lanes

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



Larry Parrish posted:

we have the rental bike versions of these in Sacramento and theres a bunch of bike rack space now... that your only allowed to use for the lovely expensive rental bikes.

those have been around here for a year or two before the scooters showed up

cakesmith handyman
Jul 22, 2007

Pip-Pip old chap! Last one in is a rotten egg what what.

How long until someone releases a dockless scooter that just up and drives itself autonomously when it's been left somewhere unprofitable?

Giga Gaia
May 2, 2006

360 kickflip to... Meteo?!

cakesmith handyman posted:

How long until someone releases a dockless scooter that just up and drives itself autonomously when it's been left somewhere unprofitable?

probably cheaper just to keep the gig economy battle royale collection system going

Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

The first thing we do, let's kill all the cars.
Grimey Drawer
The scooter problem is easy to fix: get rid of street parking (aside from cutout loading zones), expand the sidewalk to take up the newly-freed-up space. Problem solved.

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

capitalism isn't good even when it's making e-scooters

Brrrmph
Feb 27, 2016

Слава Україні!
Scooters in Sota are mostly ridden by drunk, white males. Finally something the cyclist, driving, and mass transit communities can hate together.

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KiteAuraan
Aug 5, 2014

JER GEDDA FERDA RADDA ARA!


Moridin920 posted:

They're only less hostile because they just buy them bus tickets to the coast.

Nah, we actually have a fairly sizeable homeless population and encampments and the like. I live there, the homeless population is around and keeps growing. Phoenix has even flat out backed off on kicking people out of parks and stopping them from using facilities and the like because they gotta poo poo and sleep somewhere. Basically, don't shoot up in the streets or acost people and the city seems to leave you alone.

It's not ideal, but it is far, far, far better than supposed "progressive" cities with more affluent populations. And behind like, ya know, Salt Lake City and Victoria, BC's plan of "give them homes".

Like, I get that it is popular to lump Phoenix in with its suburbs and Maricopa County as a whole, but it votes like most big cities and has a large, somewhat Left-leaning Mexican population that just gets more politically engaged every election cycle. The suburbs and county suck loving poo poo tho.

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