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RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester


Rewrite the script to something less bad then

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Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Dec 22, 2005

GET LOSE, YOU CAN'T COMPARE WITH MY POWERS
Okay just bought this and I'm super overwhelmed with all these skill choices, immediately. It seems like I'm incentivized to plan out everyone from the start, but I'm looking at thirty classes or something. Are any of the default goals for black eagles egregiously dumb or sub-optimal? Why is Linhardt training reason and faith? Who should I send on group activities?

I haven't played a fire emblem since the gameboy advance one, which was just a series of battles.

Taear
Nov 26, 2004

Ask me about the shitty opinions I have about Paradox games!

RBA Starblade posted:

Rewrite the script to something less bad then

I mean it is kinda about him

Dr Pepper
Feb 4, 2012

Don't like it? well...

RBA Starblade posted:

Rewrite the script to something less bad then

I mean him getting murderized was a pretty great scene.

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

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Dr Pepper posted:

I mean him getting murderized was a pretty great scene.

Princess Anime going to town then hugging the bloody sword was pretty fun but he has the best design of the animes so far

Dr Pepper
Feb 4, 2012

Don't like it? well...

Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:

Okay just bought this and I'm super overwhelmed with all these skill choices, immediately. It seems like I'm incentivized to plan out everyone from the start, but I'm looking at thirty classes or something. Are any of the default goals for black eagles egregiously dumb or sub-optimal? Why is Linhardt training reason and faith? Who should I send on group activities?

I haven't played a fire emblem since the gameboy advance one, which was just a series of battles.

The characters specialties will lead them down a strong path. Anybody with a budding talent (the stars next to a skill) can usually be used to branch them off into something else if you want.

Linhardt is training Reason and Faith because he's inclined more towards magic. Reason is Offensive Magic while Faith is Healing and support.

And for Group Activities just pick two people who you want to boost their support.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

All magic classes can use both Reason and Faith, even if they specialize in just one, so all mage characters should train in both. Even someone like Hubert who's bad at Faith should train it because he can still toss around a heal every now and then if he has nothing better to do.

Radio Free Kobold
Aug 11, 2012

"Federal regulations mandate that at least 30% of our content must promote Reptilian or Draconic culture. This is DJ Scratch N' Sniff with the latest mermaid screeching on KBLD..."




Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:

Okay just bought this and I'm super overwhelmed with all these skill choices, immediately. It seems like I'm incentivized to plan out everyone from the start, but I'm looking at thirty classes or something. Are any of the default goals for black eagles egregiously dumb or sub-optimal? Why is Linhardt training reason and faith? Who should I send on group activities?

I haven't played a fire emblem since the gameboy advance one, which was just a series of battles.

the defaults are honestly pretty good. just make sure you have 1-2 each: bow specialists, faith specialists (healing magic), reason specialists (killy magics).

ferdinand is basically made to be a cavalier/paladin
edelgard is made for AXE. i got her up to A-rank in swords and now she has a unique axe only she can use and i'm just kicking myself
bernie makes a good sniper and has a hidden talent for riding, very good as either a sniper or cavalier. i'm trying to make her a Bow Knight
in my game caspar was pretty underwhelming but as soon as i trained him for brawling he became a murder machine
your player character should specialize in swords
all the Master classes are cross-class hybrids - aim to have everyone in some sort of advanced class, but don't feel like you gotta go higher.

Radio Free Kobold fucked around with this message at 22:11 on Aug 4, 2019

Nissin Cup Nudist
Sep 3, 2011

Sleep with one eye open

We're off to Gritty Gritty land




On a first playthrough, is renown only good for upgrading the statues?

Eimi
Nov 23, 2013

I will never log offshut up.


As well if someone's stats suck but you still want to use them, focus on their skills and getting them to level 20. Once they hit an advanced class they will get a huge grab bag of stats and become useful. Caspar went from trash to, no Edelgard but he can put out some pain.

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!

Nissin Cup Nudist posted:

On a first playthrough, is renown only good for upgrading the statues?

Yes.

Countblanc
Apr 20, 2005

Help a hero out!
is there a trick or shortcut for getting class exp? i feel like my units are leveling up way faster than they are mastering classes and if i just keep changing classes they'll never actually get any skills.

Jerry Manderbilt
May 31, 2012

No matter how much paperwork I process, it never goes away. It only increases.
oh god golden deer chapter 17 looks like it'll be a huge pain in the rear end now that i'm looking at not only enemy edelgard and dimitri with 70 attack and distant counter each, but also a ballista which can stop my mages from doing their thing, petra with 78 avoid and enough AS to double my entire roster, and of course demonic beasts to hinder my advance. i guess it's fitting with the plot that there's only like, 10 faerghus enemies including dimitri, dedue and mercedes, but i'm in for reinforcement hell from the empire, aren't i

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

I can already tell I'm going to halfass being a teacher

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!

Countblanc posted:

is there a trick or shortcut for getting class exp? i feel like my units are leveling up way faster than they are mastering classes and if i just keep changing classes they'll never actually get any skills.

No it's normal and class mastery doesn't mean much for 90% of the classes. The only ones worth sticking around for in the 2nd tier are Brigand (deathblow) and mage (Fiendish blow).

Hyper Crab Tank
Feb 10, 2014

The 16-bit retro-future of crustacean-based transportation

Countblanc posted:

is there a trick or shortcut for getting class exp? i feel like my units are leveling up way faster than they are mastering classes and if i just keep changing classes they'll never actually get any skills.

Upgrading all the statues to get all the Class Exp +1 perks is about the only thing. But many of the classes don't have masteries worth getting anyway, with a few notable exceptions like Fiendish Blow from Mage, maybe the speed one from Pegasus Knight.

Kiranamos
Sep 27, 2007

STATUS: SCOTT IS AN IDIOT
I started making Sylvain into an axe god because Ferdinand came first with the lances. I might be making a huge mistake

Snake Maze
Jul 13, 2016

3.85 Billion years ago
  • Having seen the explosion on the moon, the Devil comes to Venus

RBA Starblade posted:

I can already tell I'm going to halfass being a teacher

Just like in real life, the secret to being a good teacher is to eat three or four lunches every Saturday.

Hyper Crab Tank
Feb 10, 2014

The 16-bit retro-future of crustacean-based transportation
Don't forget handing out garbage bags full of flowers to everyone you see.

Radio Free Kobold
Aug 11, 2012

"Federal regulations mandate that at least 30% of our content must promote Reptilian or Draconic culture. This is DJ Scratch N' Sniff with the latest mermaid screeching on KBLD..."




somehow, post-timeskip Hubert looks even more evil. guy went from "Disney villain" or "evil vizier" to loving dracula.

Jerry Manderbilt
May 31, 2012

No matter how much paperwork I process, it never goes away. It only increases.
Hunter’s Volley (Sniper) is real good for advanced mastery skills

Like, free brave bow effect plus added hit and critical potentially from 5 range?

Wes Warhammer
Oct 19, 2012

:sueme:

I'm on January with 4 paralogues to do (playing as the Blue Lions with Dorothea, Hilda, and Ignatz poached). Are there any paralogues that get added on the last month before the time skip, or will I be able to knock all of these out before then?

Countblanc
Apr 20, 2005

Help a hero out!
alright cool, thank you.

also do npc units forever-die in Classic if they die? i just had the old knight guy die on the mission where enemies attack from the rear while you're storming a tower because he missed Over 9000 70% attacks and took a billion chip damage and i'd rather not restart if that wont impact things but i will if necessary

Lord Koth
Jan 8, 2012

Countblanc posted:

alright cool, thank you.

also do npc units forever-die in Classic if they die? i just had the old knight guy die on the mission where enemies attack from the rear while you're storming a tower because he missed Over 9000 70% attacks and took a billion chip damage and i'd rather not restart if that wont impact things but i will if necessary

Not that I recall, though there are some chapters with NPCs that need to stay alive or it's a loss. Gilbert will just retreat on that mission (he's also Blue Lions exclusive in terms of recruitment, and will auto-join them eventually).

Scrap Dragon
Oct 6, 2013

SECRET TECHNIQUE:
DARK SHADOW
BLACK FALLEN ANGEL!


Jerry Manderbilt posted:

oh god golden deer chapter 17 looks like it'll be a huge pain in the rear end now that i'm looking at not only enemy edelgard and dimitri with 70 attack and distant counter each, but also a ballista which can stop my mages from doing their thing, petra with 78 avoid and enough AS to double my entire roster, and of course demonic beasts to hinder my advance. i guess it's fitting with the plot that there's only like, 10 faerghus enemies including dimitri, dedue and mercedes, but i'm in for reinforcement hell from the empire, aren't i

Reinforcement hell from the Kingdom, actually. I just did that chapter earlier today and almost got sandwiched between the two sides once they showed up

The Kingfish
Oct 21, 2015


Countblanc posted:

alright cool, thank you.

also do npc units forever-die in Classic if they die? i just had the old knight guy die on the mission where enemies attack from the rear while you're storming a tower because he missed Over 9000 70% attacks and took a billion chip damage and i'd rather not restart if that wont impact things but i will if necessary

One of my students fell in a similar way on this map.

I’m pretty annoyed that students don’t die on classic mode. They really don’t handle it well at all.

Taear
Nov 26, 2004

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RBA Starblade posted:

I can already tell I'm going to halfass being a teacher

That's a really big part of how your characters work and tbh without it there's not loads of game!

It looks like if you don't speak to Edelgard at the end of February in Explore you can't pick the Chaos route.
I bet loads of people have lost it that way because speaking to your characters during explore isn't really that important, bet loads of people just stopped doing it.

Countblanc
Apr 20, 2005

Help a hero out!

Lord Koth posted:

Not that I recall, though there are some chapters with NPCs that need to stay alive or it's a loss. Gilbert will just retreat on that mission (he's also Blue Lions exclusive in terms of recruitment, and will auto-join them eventually).

awesome, thank you. that's what the dialogue implied but i wasn't sure.

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


I do not understand recon missions at all. Are these like balloon popping in Mario Odyssey? It says there are clues on my mini map but I don't see poo poo.

Jerry Manderbilt
May 31, 2012

No matter how much paperwork I process, it never goes away. It only increases.

Scrap Dragon posted:

Reinforcement hell from the Kingdom, actually. I just did that chapter earlier today and almost got sandwiched between the two sides once they showed up

hahahahahaha mother FUCKER :suicide:

I guess when I get back to my switch I can see if I can warp someone to the Ballista to take out the sniper. And if it might be viable to have the kingdom forces bear west for Edelgard’s head?

Funky Valentine
Feb 26, 2014

Dojyaa~an

Deer route really hammers home that Edelgard and Dimitri basically can't function without Byleth to drag them from the event horizon. Edelgard in particular, gently caress you lady just because Claude's an outsider doesn't mean he can't help you.

Leal
Oct 2, 2009

Snake Maze posted:

Just like in real life, the secret to being a good teacher is to eat three or four lunches every Saturday.

Is that why every teacher, including weirdly the P.E. teachers, are fat?

Eimi
Nov 23, 2013

I will never log offshut up.


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The ultimate black eagles battle strategy

Snake Maze
Jul 13, 2016

3.85 Billion years ago
  • Having seen the explosion on the moon, the Devil comes to Venus

AlBorlantern Corps posted:

I do not understand recon missions at all. Are these like balloon popping in Mario Odyssey? It says there are clues on my mini map but I don't see poo poo.

It's hide and seek, basically. The other character is hanging out somewhere in the monastery, and you need to find and talk to them. There's some "You sense a presence" or "Getting close!" text on the left when you get near. After a little while hints show up on the minimap, which are big yellow circles showing the rough area an NPC is in, to help narrow down the search. You can't zoom out, though, so you still need to run close enough to even see the circle on the minimap.

As an aside, does anyone know if there's any benefit to being hard to find? I ended up placing my guy right near the start to make it easier for other players who just want the rewards, but I don't know if I'm missing out by not putting them in a random dorm room or something.

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


Funky Valentine posted:

Deer route really hammers home that Edelgard and Dimitri basically can't function without Byleth to drag them from the event horizon. Edelgard in particular, gently caress you lady just because Claude's an outsider doesn't mean he can't help you.

yeah its funny that eddy's a racist. kinda curious to see how much detail the other paths go into the deers, I get the feeling it would just be harder for Claude to get his plans done without Blythe there to make his cunning plans wkrk

Jerry Manderbilt
May 31, 2012

No matter how much paperwork I process, it never goes away. It only increases.

Agean90 posted:

yeah its funny that eddy's a racist. kinda curious to see how much detail the other paths go into the deers, I get the feeling it would just be harder for Claude to get his plans done without Blythe there to make his cunning plans wkrk

even on the Golden Deer route Claude had trouble keeping the alliance from splitting between pro and anti-imperial factions before Byleth returns, yet in the other routes I’m assuming he somehow gets it together enough to retake the bridge and show up for chapter 17

OddObserver
Apr 3, 2009
Accidental mys-story:
Beat 5 big bird beasts, get 5 items if fresh poultry.
Best a bunch of random bandits... Get 10 count of wild game.

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

Taear posted:

That's a really big part of how your characters work and tbh without it there's not loads of game!


Yeah I'm noticing that based on the whopping one mission I've done so far.

Less anime wooing more anime combat please

Radio Free Kobold
Aug 11, 2012

"Federal regulations mandate that at least 30% of our content must promote Reptilian or Draconic culture. This is DJ Scratch N' Sniff with the latest mermaid screeching on KBLD..."





this is the correct way to play fire emblem

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Taear
Nov 26, 2004

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RBA Starblade posted:

Yeah I'm noticing that based on the whopping one mission I've done so far.

Less anime wooing more anime combat please

I don't think this is your kinda game buddy :-/

In the starting bit when Sothis winds back time her big green circle has words on it. I've tried to read them and they are in English but obscured.
Does anyone know what they say?

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