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Agean90 posted:yeah its funny that eddy's a racist. kinda curious to see how much detail the other paths go into the deers, I get the feeling it would just be harder for Claude to get his plans done without Blythe there to make his cunning plans wkrk Edelgard route spoilers for Claude Claude is basically just barely able to keep the Alliance together before Edie pushes into Derdriu. He engineers a grand battle in the harbor that spares most of the city and basically risks everything. If he wins he'd decapitate the Empire there, but when Edie wins, basically he just put all the anti Empire nobles on the front lines so that the Alliance can be integrated peacefully. He's the only one who does okay without Byleth.
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:even on the Golden Deer route Claude had trouble keeping the alliance from splitting between pro and anti-imperial factions before Byleth returns, yet in the other routes I’m assuming he somehow gets it together enough to retake the bridge and show up for chapter 17 Well, in Blue Lions at least Claude does not take the bridge, you and the kingdom do after murdering Ferdinand and Lorenz and some empire lady I know nothing about along the way after having received Claude's(or at least House Rigans) permission to cross their lands to do so. There was some initial hope that the Dimitri's forces and the Alliance could... ally against that were dashed when the delegation of knights Gilbert sent out were found dead. No idea if Claude actually did this at least but he does traipse across the bridge after you to participate in the Great Gronder Kerfuffle where he is fighting against you. But he also tried to convince you to stop fighting him and unite against Edelgard which sounded fine but nobody wanted to trust him and I had to kill most of the golden deer for unclear reasons and was not terribly happy about it.
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Aug 4, 2019 23:27
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Whats the best class between Brigand, Armor Knight, and Brawler Ditto Priest and Mage
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Aug 4, 2019 23:27
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Whats the best class between Brigand, Armor Knight, and Brawler Depends on what you want to do. Brigand has the best mastery perk though. Priest is a healer mage is a damage dealer, but both can cast the others type of magic, one is just better at a certain type. Again depends on what you want to do with that unit.
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Aug 4, 2019 23:29
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Taear posted:I don't think this is your kinda game buddy :-/ The last FEs I played had like a few minutes of downtime so welp lol
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Aug 4, 2019 23:31
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If you take away the teaching stuff and only play the battles, this game becomes like traditional FE game but still with much more content than the previous ones. It's a massive game.
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Aug 4, 2019 23:34
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You don't even really have to engage that much with the teaching if you don't want to. Auto-instructing is an option, and most people's basic goals will be fine.
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Aug 4, 2019 23:38
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Caidin posted:Well, in Blue Lions at least Claude does not take the bridge, you and the kingdom do after murdering Ferdinand and Lorenz and some empire lady I know nothing about along the way after having received Claude's(or at least House Rigans) permission to cross their lands to do so. There was some initial hope that the Dimitri's forces and the Alliance could... ally against that were dashed when the delegation of knights Gilbert sent out were found dead. No idea if Claude actually did this at least but he does traipse across the bridge after you to participate in the Great Gronder Kerfuffle where he is fighting against you. golden deer chapter 17, everyone ingame legitimately seemed uncertain if dimitri was still alive up until KILL EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM, and claude could tell dimitri wasn't keen on joining forces anyway at that point and he and his troops advance toward your starting point in the north instead of going west to take on edelgard, as it turns out
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Aug 4, 2019 23:39
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Eimi posted:Depends on what you want to do. Brigand has the best mastery perk though. Dedue can kill things good in many ways and I want to optimize that Same with my mages, but they'll both end up as gremories in the end, so I dont think it matters much
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Aug 4, 2019 23:43
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Taear posted:It looks like if you don't speak to Edelgard at the end of February in Explore you can't pick the Chaos route. Is this true only if you pick Black Eagles or any house?
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Aug 4, 2019 23:44
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After figuring out how all the systems work together all I want to do is play this game, holy poo poo.
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Aug 4, 2019 23:45
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golden deer chapter 17  when dimitri is defeated, he goes "where are you, edelgard?! i will not stop until i kill you!"except his first move was to... take his troops and beeline for golden deer turf in the north instead of going west where edelgard actually was, plus have sylvain ambush us from our rear only to get offed
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Aug 4, 2019 23:46
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Detective No. 27 posted:Is this true only if you pick Black Eagles or any house? You can only pick Chaos if you're a black eagle. Nobody else has anything like that so don't worry about it. But talk to your characters
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Aug 4, 2019 23:48
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I'm 40 hours in and I just realized that you can control the sprite on the loading bar with motion controls. Just thought I'd share how unobservant I am.
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Caidin posted:Well, in Blue Lions at least Claude does not take the bridge, you and the kingdom do after murdering Ferdinand and Lorenz and some empire lady I know nothing about along the way after having received Claude's(or at least House Rigans) permission to cross their lands to do so. There was some initial hope that the Dimitri's forces and the Alliance could... ally against that were dashed when the delegation of knights Gilbert sent out were found dead. No idea if Claude actually did this at least but he does traipse across the bridge after you to participate in the Great Gronder Kerfuffle where he is fighting against you. It's incredibly obvious that the lizard people/empire intervened and killed the messengers to ensure that the Kingdom and Alliance don't ally with one another since Claude implies at the start of the battle that he had also sent messengers that never arrived. Unfortunately this is dropped because while Dimitri is strong and kind, he is not very bright.
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d3lness posted:I'm 40 hours in and I just realized that you can control the sprite on the loading bar with motion controls. Just thought I'd share how unobservant I am. Now you can make Byleth disco-moonwalk to your hearts content
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Aug 4, 2019 23:53
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:
Mage's mastery ability is way better than priest's, making it a better choice if the character's Faith/reason are roughly the same... except if you're not on NG+ you're probably not mastering the classes anyway without needlessly delaying promotion.
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Aug 4, 2019 23:57
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Taear posted:You can only pick Chaos if you're a black eagle. Nobody else has anything like that so don't worry about it. Ah. Alright. In Blue Lions, I was really disappointed when the Fire Emperor said "Hey, Solon's a piece of poo poo and I'm gonna kill him. Wanna join me for a bit? and the outcome was the same regardless if you said you'd join him or not.
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Aug 4, 2019 23:58
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thank christ for claude's broken-rear end gambit wouldn't have been able to take out petra with her ridiculous 91 avoid without it
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Aug 5, 2019 00:00
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Just beat Blue Lions route, about 60 hours because I spend way too much time dicking around in menus and optimizing loadouts Kind of disappointed with the direction the story took. I know I really shouldn't expect too much depth out of a Fire Emblem plotline but the character writing had me hopeful. Dimitri's come-to-Jesus moment is pretty unconvincing and then the rest of the game from that point on becomes every other FE beat-the-evil-empire plot. And it really had that feeling of being a sidestory or alternate route sort of thing... None of the major questions answered, no clear motives. I guess it's pretty clear BEagle route is the "real" story though so I'm glad I didn't start with them, at least. Those last couple maps of part 2 were really fun gameplay-wise though, the latter half really ramped up the difficulty.
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Aug 5, 2019 00:00
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I mean, the general consensus is that the blue lions plot is the worst of the 3 houses with the least lore.
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So, seriously, what the gently caress does 'Chaos' mean? I read the thread, I know it's an SMT reference (for some reason when Tactics Ogre is -right there-), but I can't tell which BE route you all are referring to at a glance and I'm trying my best to avoid spoilers since the writing is actually pretty good for once. Is that the following Edelgard route or not?
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Airspace posted:So, seriously, what the gently caress does 'Chaos' mean? I read the thread, I know it's an SMT reference (for some reason when Tactics Ogre is -right there-), but I can't tell which BE route you all are referring to at a glance and I'm trying my best to avoid spoilers since the writing is actually pretty good for once. Is that the following Edelgard route or not? It means siding with Edelgard over the church.
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Airspace posted:So, seriously, what the gently caress does 'Chaos' mean? I read the thread, I know it's an SMT reference (for some reason when Tactics Ogre is -right there-), but I can't tell which BE route you all are referring to at a glance and I'm trying my best to avoid spoilers since the writing is actually pretty good for once. Is that the following Edelgard route or not? It's the one where you side with Edelgard, yes. In order to unlock it, you need to be in the Black Eagles house and talk to Edelgard in February, immediately before the timeskip. She'll ask you to go on a trip with her, it'll throw up some very big "THIS WILL CHANGE THE STORY" warnings. At the end of the next battle (ie end of February) the game will give you another choice; this, too, throws up a big "THIS WILL CHANGE THE STORY" warning. Normally there's only one option, but going on Edelgard's little errand opens up the second one. Either way, it's kinda an obvious choice so as long as you remember to talk to Edelgard you should be fine. Radio Free Kobold fucked around with this message at 00:27 on Aug 5, 2019 |
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golden deer chapter 17 end welp uh that's one way to take dimitri out of the equation; critically wounded, trying his damndest to kill edelgard at the last second, only to collapse and get mobbed to death by imperial troops. dunno what'll happen of dedue now and i guess now is a plot dump expo from lysithea that's a good point for her A support to finally unlock in chapter 18
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:golden deer chapter 17 Personally I can't wait to play Blue Lions and see what the gently caress Dimitri's deal is, because it is honestly ridiculous that he takes time off from his single-minded hate boner for Edelgard to attack the Golden Deer. Edelgard has some remark about wanting to cause confusion in the fog of war (like the actual fog of war, not the fire emblem game mechanic fog of war), but Dimitri seems pretty aware that he's attacking the Golden Deer and not the Empire?
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Radio Free Kobold posted:It's the one where you side with Edelgard, yes. Like I said before you say obvious but I know people who didn't speak to her and there's been people in the thread. The game doesn't make chatting to your characters feel too important so I can see why people would miss it. Also I love starting with A+ professor level in new game plus, my god it's bananas. I might be able to actually have master classes! Having adjutants from the beginning is amazing too if only for the support ramifications. And I was mastering the starting classes right from the first fight! I will say after Edelgard route Chaos I have a lot of story questions. While I mostly understand what has happened this is my main one: Who is Flayn? Why do they have to pretend she's the sister and not the daughter? There's a support conversation with her that suggests she's a saint but I'd still like to know!
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Chocolate Bunny posted:You don't even really have to engage that much with the teaching if you don't want to. Auto-instructing is an option, and most people's basic goals will be fine. That's kind of the problem. Even on hard the difficulty is braindead with all the options. There is zero strategy in the gameplay and your choices rarely have any meaningful impact. There are legit criticisms with how boring the strategy part of this strategy rpg is.
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TurnipFritter posted:Personally I can't wait to play Blue Lions and see what the gently caress Dimitri's deal is, because it is honestly ridiculous that he takes time off from his single-minded hate boner for Edelgard to attack the Golden Deer. Edelgard has some remark about wanting to cause confusion in the fog of war (like the actual fog of war, not the fire emblem game mechanic fog of war), but Dimitri seems pretty aware that he's attacking the Golden Deer and not the Empire? as far as i can tell on our side, the leicester alliance made the executive decision to let him and his forces pass through ordelia and into the empire unmolested, and then he repays the favor by going "gently caress the empire and the alliance we'll kill every last one of em". come to think of it it was pretty funny how on the golden deer route everyone seemed legitimately unsure whether dimitri was alive or dead until KILL EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM like before the fight, felix was saying dimitri was dead, and now he's depressed because he really is dead though of course the simple answer is, "put pressure on the player" Jerry Manderbilt fucked around with this message at 00:49 on Aug 5, 2019 |
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Manuela/Hanneman paralogue: have had to restart this one a couple times, not sure what I should be doing. Manuela inevitably gets swarmed by enemies on the 3rd turn and I can't reach the commander in time, even speed-boosted. Any tips?
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PantsBandit posted:Manuela/Hanneman paralogue: have had to restart this one a couple times, not sure what I should be doing. Manuela inevitably gets swarmed by enemies on the 3rd turn and I can't reach the commander in time, even speed-boosted. Any tips? Get someone with warp, or a flyer? (Rescue will also likely help)
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this is my first Fire Emblem game and I’m enjoying it a lot. two and a half hours in and my main takeaway so far is “god drat Manuela is horny”
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PantsBandit posted:Manuela/Hanneman paralogue: have had to restart this one a couple times, not sure what I should be doing. Manuela inevitably gets swarmed by enemies on the 3rd turn and I can't reach the commander in time, even speed-boosted. Any tips? Run her down the hill, she'll get attacked but you'll get to her in time. Don't stop on the heal thing. That's how I did it. Easily the hardest fight for me in the game!!
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Taear posted:Who is Flayn? Why do they have to pretend she's the sister and not the daughter? She a lizard person. Like Rhea, the four saints are all survivors of Zanado, that place in the Red Canyon that Sothis is so interested in. Flyan and Seteth are Cethleann and Cichol respectively. I don't think the game ever comes out tells you they're manaketes, but Rhea at least can totally turn into a dragon so...
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oh also I’m in my second month and could use some recruiting tips. most of the people I go after want my faith or magic to be higher and I’m not sure how to raise those
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Where do you get the vegetable needed for cooking the goddess fish meal?
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PantsBandit posted:Manuela/Hanneman paralogue: have had to restart this one a couple times, not sure what I should be doing. Manuela inevitably gets swarmed by enemies on the 3rd turn and I can't reach the commander in time, even speed-boosted. Any tips?
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TurnipFritter posted:Personally I can't wait to play Blue Lions and see what the gently caress Dimitri's deal is, because it is honestly ridiculous that he takes time off from his single-minded hate boner for Edelgard to attack the Golden Deer. Edelgard has some remark about wanting to cause confusion in the fog of war (like the actual fog of war, not the fire emblem game mechanic fog of war), but Dimitri seems pretty aware that he's attacking the Golden Deer and not the Empire? The devs just really wanted to return to the three-way fight and couldn't figure out how to write it into the Deer path, though honestly at that point KILL EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM Dimitri and I AM THE ONLY PERSON WHO CAN SAVE FODLAN YOU loving FOREIGNER Edelgard both seem like they'd come to finish of Claude eventually.
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indigi posted:oh also I’m in my second month and could use some recruiting tips. most of the people I go after want my faith or magic to be higher and I’m not sure how to raise those You can raise the protagonist's levels in faith/reason by getting faculty instruction from the relevant other professors or the weekend seminars. MAG's a bit of a crapshoot but being in a magic class raises growth rates. Although mostly I guess the correct way to actually recruit people is to shower them with flower arrangements / food / gifts to reach B support, which drastically lowers the requirements.
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Skippy McPants posted:She a lizard person. Like Rhea, the four saints are all survivors of Zanado, that place in the Red Canyon that Sothis is so interested in. Flyan and Seteth are Cethleann and Cichol respectively. I don't think the game ever comes out tells you they're manaketes, but Rhea at least can totally turn into a dragon so... How do I learn this in game? Related, about Flayn Is the main characters mother the final one or was Flayns mother one? It's such a weird thing you never find out about, at least in black eagles. The only other game which is as different as this for different choices is the Witcher 2 and I think it's impressive that this has done the same - it felt so ambitious then and it still feels that way.
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