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Lodin posted:Today I found a Unity port of Daggerfall some dude has been working on since 2014. He recently released the first Alpha and it's pretty mindblowing to see how well it runs now. Despite the janky rear end combat and poo poo dungeons I'm still having fun. I guess my unpopular opinion is that it kinda still holds up. i've been following this port for a while. it is really awesome! its is safe to call unity Daggerfall "less buggy then Bethesdas version" at this point. its not perfect, but its 100% playable
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I can't imagine there is any reason to play daggerfall
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Aug 4, 2019 04:00
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Caesar Saladin posted:I can't imagine there is any reason to play daggerfall Pixelated boobies
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Aug 4, 2019 05:16
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Flannelette posted:Pixelated boobies 
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Aug 4, 2019 07:22
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We need more rhythm games with plot. The Music of Eric Zahn adaptation when?
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Aug 4, 2019 14:58
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Caesar Saladin posted:I can't imagine there is any reason to play daggerfall Well obviously nostalgia is my main reason, but it helps that it has a ton of QoL changes. Now you control it like a regular first person game with WASD and the mouse and you just right click to attack. all the menus and other things that used to be buttons on the lower half of the screen have been replaced by keyboard shortcuts. I think that anyone who started with Morrowind or the latter games and has fondness for the series should give it a go just to see what the games used to be like.
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Aug 4, 2019 18:51
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Lodin posted:Well obviously nostalgia is my main reason, but it helps that it has a ton of QoL changes. Now you control it like a regular first person game with WASD and the mouse and you just right click to attack. all the menus and other things that used to be buttons on the lower half of the screen have been replaced by keyboard shortcuts. Yeah, I'm not seeing it. Most diehard Beth fans loathe even vanilla Skyrim, let alone Daggerfall. I feel ES games tend to acquire and keep certain fans that become knowledgeable in their favorite's Creation Kit and just never see the point in changing over. I dont think any of them would be impressed or interested unless you mention some crazy backend customization built-in or actually rebuilding it with new, top quality assets in a modern graphics engine. edit- Not that many of the MW+ fans that you mention actually "play" these games in the traditional sense.
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Aug 4, 2019 18:59
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Battlefield's Battle Royale mode is fun as poo poo and probably the best BR game except the bad matchmaking, which sadly will ultimately be it's demise.
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Aug 4, 2019 19:01
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Doom 3's cacodemon was a very cool design and his projectile attack looked really good
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Aug 4, 2019 19:27
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Doom 3 in general had some of the coolest Audio/visual design of any game at the time.
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Aug 4, 2019 19:30
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Doom 3's cacodemon sucked, Doom 3's mancubus was the best of the bunch.
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Aug 4, 2019 19:32
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William Henry Hairytaint posted:Doom 3's cacodemon sucked, Doom 3's mancubus was the best of the bunch. Baron of Hell was the best design in Doom 3, that's why they brought him over as the new hellknight Commando, Pinky were also pretty awesome, put stuff like the imp sucked. I agree that Doom 3 had overall awesome enemy design (ticks, lost souls, cherubs...)
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Aug 4, 2019 19:44
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Dr. Video Games 0112 posted:Yeah, I'm not seeing it. Most diehard Beth fans loathe even vanilla Skyrim, let alone Daggerfall. I feel ES games tend to acquire and keep certain fans that become knowledgeable in their favorite's Creation Kit and just never see the point in changing over. I dont think any of them would be impressed or interested unless you mention some crazy backend customization built-in or actually rebuilding it with new, top quality assets in a modern graphics engine. Well I never played Arena back in the day but when Beth put it out for free I still gave it a go. It was obviously a huge pain in the arse to play but I still put a couple of hours into it for the novelty. That's really all I meant when I suggested people try out DF.
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Aug 4, 2019 19:49
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Dr. Video Games 0112 posted:Yeah, I'm not seeing it. Most diehard Beth fans loathe even vanilla Skyrim, let alone Daggerfall. I feel ES games tend to acquire and keep certain fans that become knowledgeable in their favorite's Creation Kit and just never see the point in changing over. I dont think any of them would be impressed or interested unless you mention some crazy backend customization built-in or actually rebuilding it with new, top quality assets in a modern graphics engine. What does "diehard fan" mean in this context? Is that the same as a hardcore apologist because those people loved skyrim
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Aug 4, 2019 20:31
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QuarkJets posted:What does "diehard fan" mean in this context? Is that the same as a hardcore apologist because those people loved skyrim Vanilla Skyrim, as in non-modded Skyrim. The diehard fan would be the people that are right now on this day playing and modding Skyrim, just as there are people playing and modding Morrowind etc as they will continue to for many years.
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Aug 4, 2019 20:34
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Dr. Video Games 0112 posted:Vanilla Skyrim, as in non-modded Skyrim. The diehard fan would be the people that are right now on this day playing and modding Skyrim, just as there are people playing and modding Morrowind etc as they will continue to for many years. Skyrim sold approximately eighty gazillion unmoddable copies, the “diehard fans” you’re referring to are actually known as “weirdos” in the common tongue
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Aug 4, 2019 20:45
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Right and there is a good probability that people playing unmoddable Skyrim did not play the original Daggerfall or even know of it's existence.
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Aug 4, 2019 20:58
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Dr. Video Games 0112 posted:Right and there is a good probability that people playing unmoddable Skyrim did not play the original Daggerfall or even know of it's existence. that’s a pretty big assumption to make and has nothing to do with this fiction of diehard fans you’ve built up in your mind the only place I’ve ever heard this weird greek chorus of “nobody likes unmodded Bethesda games” is right here on sa
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Aug 4, 2019 21:00
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food court bailiff posted:Skyrim sold approximately eighty gazillion unmoddable copies, the “diehard fans” you’re referring to are actually known as “weirdos” in the common tongue Its hosed up that anyone at all bought skyrim on a console because if you cant mod it you only get a beta version of 10% of the game
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Aug 4, 2019 21:09
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food court bailiff posted:that’s a pretty big assumption to make and has nothing to do with this fiction of diehard fans you’ve built up in your mind No it isn't. Why the hell would anyone want to play Daggerfall? It's a bad Bethesda game that cant be modded. Load it up, shocked to see it aged poorly like every ES game and uninstall.
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Aug 4, 2019 21:15
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Morrowind didn't age poorly unless you're playing it on an xbox
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Aug 4, 2019 21:16
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Bethesda games are fine without mods. I have no interest in mods in general because I’d rather just play a game as it was intended and be done with it. People who are all into mods seem to want to make a game a lifestyle when Ill get bored of it way before I’d care about adding a bunch of poo poo. For once I’m not just being a console fanboy though because I do actually get why people are into it and I think it’s cool. Not everyone cares about using that poo poo though.
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Aug 4, 2019 21:27
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The thing with Bethesda's games is they're intended to have mods. Otherwise they'd have to actually make and release patches to fix things instead of leaving it to the community. The shipped game is incomplete by design
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Aug 4, 2019 21:28
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I was all ready to write up a rebuttal and then I remembered that my last/second play through of Skyrim, which was the VR version that just came out a year ago, was killed 50 hours in by a game breaking bug that has existed and has been well documented since Skyrim’s original launch. Bethesda didn’t bother to fix it even when porting to new platforms lol.
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Aug 4, 2019 21:34
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Incidentally I've got the Todd Howard theme stuck in my head now
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Aug 4, 2019 21:38
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veni veni veni posted:I was all ready to write up a rebuttal and then I remembered that my last/second play through of Skyrim, which was the VR version that just came out a year ago, was killed 50 hours in by a game breaking bug that has existed and has been well documented since Skyrim’s original launch. Bethesda didn’t bother to fix it even when porting to new platforms lol. You put fifty hours into a bethesda RPG and only ran one save file?
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Aug 4, 2019 22:48
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No I had probably 10 going but the bug was triggered like 30 hours before it actually affected the game, so loading different saves didn’t matter and even if I could have it would have set my progress back like 50% Basically if you discover the vampire castle while you are just exploring around it’ll not only lock you out of doing that expansion, but the vampire lady will permanently follow you around for the rest of the game. but you can’t interact with her which is annoying as gently caress.
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Aug 4, 2019 23:50
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Annoying, but quintessentially Bethesda
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Aug 4, 2019 23:54
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olives black posted:Elder Scrolls games prove Matt Christman 100% right
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Dr. Video Games 0112 posted:No it isn't. Why the hell would anyone want to play Daggerfall? It's a bad Bethesda game that cant be modded. Load it up, shocked to see it aged poorly like every ES game and uninstall. wrong! there are daggerfall mods that are older than SA
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food court bailiff posted:that’s a pretty big assumption to make and has nothing to do with this fiction of diehard fans you’ve built up in your mind It's a pretty safe assumption that the majority of 2019 AAA console gamers are not also 1998 PC niche gamers. Skyrim was the first ES game that was seen as accessible to the non-hardcore (see also: console gamers). Unpopular opinion: I couldn't care less about mods, there are too many good choices these days to spend 6000 hours playing one game. Dross fucked around with this message at 01:59 on Aug 5, 2019 |
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Aug 5, 2019 01:56
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the elder scrolls games all have the worst combat ever, just disgustingly awful feeling combat in every single aspect. They need to copy Vermintide 2 as much as they can for the next game.
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Witcher 3 is better than any bethe$da
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Aug 5, 2019 02:11
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appropriatemetaphor posted:Witcher 3 is better than any bethe$da True, but it's still on the decent side of mediocre.
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Aug 5, 2019 02:17
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veni veni veni posted:Battlefield's Battle Royale mode is fun as poo poo and probably the best BR game except the bad matchmaking, which sadly will ultimately be it's demise. it breaks my brain that developers are consistently able to gently caress up matchmaking. PUBG matchmaking for Australian players was broken (as in, you effectively couldn't get into a game for most game modes) for nearly a year. They fixed it with a patch recently and now it's insta-queue for almost everything.
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appropriatemetaphor posted:Witcher 3 is better than any bethe$da Water is wet. Sky is blue Bethesda games are still fun to dick around in tho.
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veni veni veni posted:I was all ready to write up a rebuttal and then I remembered that my last/second play through of Skyrim, which was the VR version that just came out a year ago, was killed 50 hours in by a game breaking bug that has existed and has been well documented since Skyrim’s original launch. Bethesda didn’t bother to fix it even when porting to new platforms lol. Was it getting stuck in that weird outdoor dinner party?
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Aug 5, 2019 03:49
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I get the sense that for some folks, modding a Bethesda game is like "souping up a classic car," in that there's endless tuning in an enclosed area, it's never really driven, and the end result is really gaudy and super delicate.
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Aug 5, 2019 08:13
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The concept of modding is so bewildering to me, i just don't need to try and stretch out that kinda mileage from any game
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Sometimes game devs just don't have the resources to complete their full artistic vision and you need an autistic 12 year old to step in and render the most realistic vaginas to expand the gameplay experience, since you only have enough money to buy one game per year on the expensive gaming PC that you punched your mom into buying for you.
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