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PleasantDirge posted:That sounds pretty on brand for me and makes sense. It was still cool to watch The conclusion for the finals was great - Hogaak player punted when he messed up not attacking for lethal because they were playing around something, mono red Phoenix player needed to hit a specific set of draws starting with looting off the top, flashed back looting, and got there at 1 life.
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Thespian's Stage reprint And Split Second is back!!  Sudden Exchange instant Split second Exchange control of target noncreature spell and target creature. Then player who controls that spell may choose new targets for it. Kurtofan fucked around with this message at 10:45 on Aug 5, 2019 |
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Kurtofan posted:And Split Second is back!! wait, so you trade a spell for a creature (or vice versa)?
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TheChirurgeon posted:wait, so you trade a spell for a creature (or vice versa)? Yeah, you can steal a spell by giving away a creature or something. That's real cool. So is the art.
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Kurtofan posted:Thespian's Stage reprint Reddit seemed really excited for that, but it's a $3 card which was reprinted in UMA less than a year ago. Am I missing something?
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Kurtofan posted:Today they're revealing cards for the Faceless Menace (morph theme) commander deck The first green vampire I believe.
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Kurtofan posted:And Split Second is back!! Cool art. If you cast a counter then cast this in response to your counter giving them your counter, they still have to counter their own spell right? So your counter still works and you get a creature.
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pointsofdata posted:Cool art. If you cast a counter then cast this in response to your counter giving them your counter, they still have to counter their own spell right? So your counter still works and you get a creature. They can change the counter to target this spell.
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This is dizzying, most Izzet approach to an Azorius spell to date.
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suicidesteve posted:They can change the counter to target this spell. won't sudden exchange have already resolved? or does the counter move up the stack when control is exchanged
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pointsofdata posted:won't sudden exchange have already resolved? or does the counter move up the stack when control is exchanged
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Tubgoat posted:When they're choosing new a target for your Counterspell, Exchange has already resolved because your opponent is choosing a new target for your Counterspell, and Exchange is in the graveyard if no other responses. that's my understanding, so unless they are allowed to make Counterspell counter itself, they have to counter their own spell
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Kurtofan posted:Today they're revealing cards for the Faceless Menace (morph theme) commander deck No sultai creature has double strike to begin with. Way to blueball me wotc. 😠
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:No sultai creature has double strike to begin with. Way to blueball me wotc. 😠 Read the card again. It says "If a nontoken creature would die". It doesn't specifically say *your* nontoken creature. So you can get it from someone else's creature. I don't think Rayami is super competitive but having that niche stax built in with perks that makes it stronger later in the game is pretty nifty.
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:No sultai creature has double strike to begin with. Way to blueball me wotc. 😠 Doesn’t say “your”
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Tubgoat posted:When they're choosing new a target for your Counterspell, Exchange has already resolved because your opponent is choosing a new target for your Counterspell, and Exchange is in the graveyard if no other responses. That's not true. You take the spell off the stack after doing all of the instructions on it. This spell does: exchange the things then choose new targets then this spell has finished resolving when you're choosing targets for the counterspell, the things on the stack are: Sudden Exchange, Counterspell and the original spell being countered. There's a rule that says spells can't target themselves, so your options are Sudden Exchange and the original spell. Immediately afterwards, Sudden Exchange will be put into the graveyard from the stack, and then if nothing else happens, counterspell will fizzle due to having no legal targets. But, the target was legal when you chose it, so it's allowed. Dr. Stab fucked around with this message at 13:25 on Aug 5, 2019 |
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Dr. Stab posted:That's not true. You take the spell off the stack after doing all of the instructions on it. That makes sense, thanks. So you'd have to do it with essence scatter or something
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pointsofdata posted:That makes sense, thanks. So you'd have to do it with essence scatter or something Or a blue elemental blast (but NOT a hydroblast)
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That seems to be very badly worded. I understand what the intention is but surely you strictly couldn't use it if it's not under your control?
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Mojo Jojo posted:That seems to be very badly worded. I understand what the intention is but surely you strictly couldn't use it if it's not under your control? You can't use it. It's very bad for you in a 2 player game.
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Dr. Stab posted:You can't use it. It's very bad for you in a 2 player game. I would assume in a deck that steals or returns permanents to owners this becomes very powerful.
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Mojo Jojo posted:That seems to be very badly worded. I understand what the intention is but surely you strictly couldn't use it if it's not under your control? Dr. Stab posted:You can't use it. It's very bad for you in a 2 player game. You're forced to give it to an opponent. They control it, not you, so like every other permanent you don't control (unless explicitly stated), you can't activate its abilities. It's tempting for them to use, but if/when they do, you benefit from it as well. It's also amazing if you can steal it back somehow, because then you get to pay 2 to draw two cards and put up to two lands from your hand onto the battlefield.
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Kurtofan posted:And Split Second is back!!  And I thought Switcheroo was a fun include in my Talrand counters/card draw deck.
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Right. By itself it gives your opponent the option to do something. This can only ever be bad for you. It only does anything at all beneficial if you can steal it back and I don't think it enough of a payoff for that combo, unless I'm missing some other synergies with stealing back your own stuff.
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Dr. Stab posted:Right. By itself it gives you opponent the option to do something. This can only ever be bad for you. It only does anything at all beneficial if you can steal it back and I don't think it enough of a payoff for that combo, unless I'm missing some other synergies with stealing back your own stuff. The commander sets are designed for games with more than two players, if you give this to one of your opponents they will generally use it to benefit the both of you at the expense of all the other players at the table.
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Dr. Stab posted:Right. By itself it gives your opponent the option to do something. This can only ever be bad for you. It only does anything at all beneficial if you can steal it back and I don't think it enough of a payoff for that combo, unless I'm missing some other synergies with stealing back your own stuff. Have you considered that the point of EDH and these decks is 'having fun in a multiplayer game'
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I was using "it's very bad for you in a two player game" to clarify what the effect was and not to pass judgement on the card. I'm sure it's only mildly bad for you in a multiplayer game.
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It should be pretty clear why this is in fact pretty strong in a multiplayer game, unless you're the sort of person who refuses to ever trade when they play Settlers of Catan because the person you're trading with will also benefit.
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Dr. Stab posted:Right. By itself it gives you opponent the option to do something. This can only ever be bad for you. It only does anything at all beneficial if you can steal it back and I don't think it enough of a payoff for that combo, unless I'm missing some other synergies with stealing back your own stuff. "Can only" is actually incorrect here. Your opponent can choose to not use it and or wait to activate it when its less beneficial for you, but drawing you a card as well always has a chance to benefit you.
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It's a card for people who play Phelddagrif hugbox decks.
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 Way of Return (G)(G) Sorcery Choose one: Return a permanent from your graveyard to your hand Take your Commander from the command zone to your hand Entwine 2
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Sickening posted:"Can only" is actually incorrect here. Your opponent can choose to not use it and or wait to activate it when its less beneficial for you, but drawing you a card as well always has a chance to benefit you. Sure, that's fair. I guess I meant that at any point, you'd rather your opponent didn't have this card than have it.
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Katana Gomai posted:Reddit seemed really excited for that, but it's a $3 card which was reprinted in UMA less than a year ago. Am I missing something? Reddit, as always, is really loving stupid.
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Thanks, I hate it. This sort of design needs to be wiped off the map.
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Am I missing something, or can you trade your own One With Nothing for your opponent's best creature? What other spells hurt the person casting them?
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