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ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

What did you say the strategy was?

A Moose posted:

Am I missing something, or can you trade your own One With Nothing for your opponent's best creature? What other spells hurt the person casting them?

Pact of xxx if they don't have the mana for it

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Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

A Moose posted:

Am I missing something, or can you trade your own One With Nothing for your opponent's best creature? What other spells hurt the person casting them?

any spells that says you lose the game

Dr. Stab
Sep 12, 2010
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A Moose posted:

Am I missing something, or can you trade your own One With Nothing for your opponent's best creature? What other spells hurt the person casting them?

Pact of negation is a good one.

Jabor
Jul 16, 2010

#1 Loser at SpaceChem

Dr. Stab posted:

Pact of negation is a good one.

Negation specifically isn't very good, since your opponent won't end up having to pay the cost. (They'll target your Sudden Exchange, then the pact will fizzle).

Pact of the Titan or Summoner's Pact would work though.

Dr. Stab
Sep 12, 2010
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I literally just had this discussion except this time I am the fool who doesn't understand the thing I just explained.

Elyv
Jun 14, 2013





this seems awful outside the morph gimmick deck

distortion park
Apr 25, 2011


Elyv posted:



this seems awful outside the morph gimmick deck

maybe there are some "as an additional cost" creatures you can cheat?

Buffis
Apr 29, 2006

I paid for this
Fallen Rib

pointsofdata posted:

maybe there are some "as an additional cost" creatures you can cheat?

ETB's wont trigger, so you can cheat in stuff like Phyrexian Dreadnought, but seems bad.

Jabor
Jul 16, 2010

#1 Loser at SpaceChem
The main idea would be to cheat in morphs with abilities, which get a lot more appealing when you can dump them at instant speed and for (3) less. Also, there's stuff like Fathom Seer where getting to pay the mana cost instead of the morph cost to turn it face-up is appealing.

But even then it's more gimmicky than it is good. And your gimmick is heinously bad when you don't get this.

At least it's Trophy Mage-able?

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon
ixidron reprint, with new art

Count Bleck
Apr 5, 2010

DISPEL MAGIC!

Manifest fatties in your hand, blink them.

Have a nice day.

Huxley
Oct 10, 2012



Grimey Drawer

Kurtofan posted:

ixidron reprint, with new art



If you Pyroclasm then Ixidron, everything (that took damage) dies, right?

Not that you would, it just popped into my head as a question.

Jabor
Jul 16, 2010

#1 Loser at SpaceChem

Huxley posted:

If you Pyroclasm then Ixidron, everything (that took damage) dies, right?

Not that you would, it just popped into my head as a question.

Combine it with Secret Plans and you have a 3-card Plague Wind that costs just as much as actual Plague Wind!

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002



neat idea

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon
New Volrath

https://twitter.com/ChrisKMooney/status/1158393505699356672?s=19

Count Bleck
Apr 5, 2010

DISPEL MAGIC!


Very cool.

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

What did you say the strategy was?
Is it worth picking up checklands now, or will they drop a bunch when standard rotates in like 2 months? Got a modern deck and fastlands in RG are a bit steep. Fetches too, sadly.

little munchkin
Aug 15, 2010

important to note here that the entire process of unflip morph -> attach aura cannot be responded to in any way

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon
some reprints

vesuvan shapeshifter with new art



other reprints:

deathmist raptor, strionic resonator

Elyv
Jun 14, 2013



considering how silly it looks, reprinting deathmist raptor without new art is an interesting choice

Fajita Queen
Jun 21, 2012

little munchkin posted:

important to note here that the entire process of unflip morph -> attach aura cannot be responded to in any way

Yeah giving indestructible to a creature with that seems very good as a whole. Only having to pay 3, and being able to do that even a couple turns ahead of when you need the effect, is strong.

Elyv posted:

considering how silly it looks, reprinting deathmist raptor without new art is an interesting choice

But it does have the correct typeline now, which is nice.

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese
Remind me does Brine Elemental hit all your opponents or just one

Asking for a friend

goth smoking cloves
Feb 28, 2011

Each opponent

Yawgmoth
Sep 10, 2003

This post is cursed!

MikeCrotch posted:

Remind me does Brine Elemental hit all your opponents or just one

Asking for a friend

admanb
Jun 18, 2014

ilmucche posted:

Is it worth picking up checklands now, or will they drop a bunch when standard rotates in like 2 months? Got a modern deck and fastlands in RG are a bit steep. Fetches too, sadly.

Checklands will crash unless they get reprinted, which doesn't seem likely.

The American Dream
Mar 1, 2007
Don't Forget My Balls

admanb posted:

Checklands will crash unless they get reprinted, which doesn't seem likely.

Yeah. I feel like by dec/Jan they’ll all be close to $2. I’m gonna to finish off my sets once they get to that range. I’m pretty sure they were all around $2 before they were reprinted.

InterrupterJones
Nov 10, 2012

Me and the boys on the way to kill another demon god

Kurtofan posted:

some reprints

vesuvan shapeshifter with new art



other reprints:

deathmist raptor, strionic resonator

I knew it! I was thinking about picking up Deathmist Raptor in case it didn't get a reprint. Vesuvan Shapeshifter is one I didn't even think of, but it's a pretty cool reprint regardless.

Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013

by sebmojo

I loving LOVE this art! Reminds me of back when Magic was more magical.

Elyv
Jun 14, 2013



Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013

by sebmojo
drat, is that in Sultai as well? Deck looks like a worthy pickup.

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon
today is all sultai

they're doing reveals for a different deck everyday.

Tom Clancy is Dead
Jul 13, 2011

Never has a card needed it's Trample more.

Vidmaster
Oct 26, 2002



More fun for my doing dumb poo poo with tokens Ghave deck!

AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016
The madness commander is probably the most objectively powerful but the sultai deck is way cooler.

Tainen
Jan 23, 2004

Tubgoat
Jun 30, 2013

by sebmojo
A SNAPE!

Sarmhan
Nov 1, 2011


New best creature typing spotted.

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

Nibble
Dec 28, 2003

if we don't, remember me

Tom Clancy is Dead posted:

Never has a card needed it's Trample more.

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Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon
apex altisaur

https://twitter.com/CardmarketMagic/status/1158432816834777090

chromeshell crab reprint with new art

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