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| Joe Biden, the Inappropriate Toucher |
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18 | 1.46% |
| Bernie Sanders, the Hand Flailer |
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665 | 54.11% |
| Elizabeth Warren, the Plan Maker |
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319 | 25.96% |
| Kamala Harris, the Cop Lord |
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26 | 2.12% |
| Cory Booker, the Super Hero Wannabe |
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5 | 0.41% |
| Julian Castro, the Twin |
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5 | 0.41% |
| Kirsten Gillibrand, the Franken Killer |
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5 | 0.41% |
| Pete Buttigieg, the Troop Sociopath |
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17 | 1.38% |
| Robert Francis O'Rourke, the Fake Latino |
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3 | 0.24% |
| Jay Inslee, the Climate Alarmist |
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8 | 0.65% |
| Marianne Williamson, the Crystal Queen |
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86 | 7.00% |
| Tulsi Gabbard, the Muslim Hater |
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23 | 1.87% |
| Andrew Yang, the $1000 Fool |
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32 | 2.60% |
| Eric Swalwell, the Insurance Wife Guy |
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2 | 0.16% |
| Amy Klobuchar, the Comb Enthusiast |
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1 | 0.08% |
| Bill de Blasio, the NYPD Most Hated |
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4 | 0.33% |
| Tim Ryan, the Dope Face |
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3 | 0.24% |
| John Hickenlooper, the Also Ran |
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7 | 0.57% |
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Mahoning posted:I think they’re talking about Democrats, not all voters. Because who gives a gently caress what Republicans who were polled think? I mean, it might matter some, because you have states with open primaries and such. So some Republicans are going to be voting in the primaries, but you'd have to dig down a lot more than that poll did to figure that out.
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Aug 6, 2019 02:08
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The Glumslinger posted:https://twitter.com/mviser/status/1158538504546279425  gamers RISE UP
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Aug 6, 2019 02:09
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Good on Biden for coming out so strongly against first pick sniper in DOTA.
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Aug 6, 2019 02:11
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The Glumslinger posted:https://twitter.com/mviser/status/1158538504546279425 Oh great, we’re doing the 90s strategy of blaming Grand Theft Auto and Marilyn Manson again
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Aug 6, 2019 02:11
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FizFashizzle posted:Good on Biden for coming out so strongly against first pick sniper in DOTA. First they came for the sniper players, and I didn't say anything because deleting Widow and Hanzo is the only hope Overwatch has
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Aug 6, 2019 02:13
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Where and when did Biden say it, does anyone know?
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Aug 6, 2019 02:14
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FizFashizzle posted:Good on Biden for coming out so strongly against first pick sniper in DOTA. hosed up that im a biden supporter now, i guess
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Luckyellow posted:How the heck did Klobuchar improve in people's eyes? they now know want she looks like
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Epicurius posted:Where and when did Biden say it, does anyone know? Today on CNN in an Anderson Cooper interview.
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Aug 6, 2019 02:30
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Bernie Sanders playing literal games in San Diego while Biden was making this statement on CNN 
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Aug 6, 2019 02:43
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Luckyellow posted:How the heck did Klobuchar improve in people's eyes? she looked better in hindsight after night two.
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tylersayten posted:Oh great, we’re doing the 90s strategy of blaming Grand Theft Auto and Marilyn Manson again Most of this decade has been rehashing the 60s so I’m not sure why this is surprising.
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Aug 6, 2019 02:52
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tylersayten posted:Oh great, we’re doing the 90s strategy of blaming Grand Theft Auto and Marilyn Manson again The real cause is of course Touhou Project. Literal bullet hell.
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Aug 6, 2019 02:54
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Arabian Jesus posted:It did lead to this hilarious, goon made I believe, moment https://youtu.be/_prNM4QxF8E Man this makes me nostalgic for when a joke was just a joke.
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Aug 6, 2019 03:46
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See, the thing about Mayor Pete that I would really like to emphasize… He’s developing (I won’t say he /has/) a healthy relationship to progressive activism. He doesn’t call us terrorists. He doesn’t send his po-lice to harass us. He listens when we speak (though admittedly he didn’t pass his first BLM mic check test) When we actually create room for him to move left, /he moves left/. Here’s a photo of him at the first South Bend Pride Prom, along with the Planning Committee (yes, I’m in there) I didn’t even know he was gay; just that he is our progressive mayor. Nonetheless, I had a fabulous and flambouant friend put up a marquis on the State Theater downtown asking him to be his date. Local news called his office about it. His office issued a statement of support, but insisted he had a prior engagement that night. He showed up, wanting to be of service. He served drinks all night. Flash forward a few years, and with a /very/ strong contingent of feminist and queer activists in town, he came forward – before the end of his first term. Space was created in this catholic town for him to come out, and he came out. And he did more than come out. His father was friends with Cornel West. I’m told West has known Buttigieg since he was knee-high. I met West once working at The Morris Inn. Similar story with abortion rights in South Bend. IUSB's gender studies program is *fabulous*. There are a *lot* of /strong/ LGBTQ activist voices in South Bend - IU's local satellite campus is just /pumping/ them out. But this is an old blue Catholic town, with Notre Dame watching down on us from their hill. My mother was a one-issue voter, and it's been a powerful bloc. Reagan used Abortion to woo the Notre Dame community (and Catholics at large) from the Dem party ('The Gipper'). The Queer activists in this town were up against (arguably) the most powerful anti-abortion machine in the country. Check Pete's record on abortion rights. And then there's that CoreCivic thing. The people of this city are /smart/, and while they're certainly not 'unified' (and the diversity is a good thing, I promise), they actually talk to each-other (across racial lines, across class lines - there's an ongoing community conversation that's very high-level). When folk back home found out that they was lookin' to build a concentration camp next door, they absolutely killed it. CoreCivic tried hiring a social media team to push their agenda - something they did in all the cities they built concentration camps in - but we were too powerful for their weak sockpuppet army. They ran away scared. Anyway, I caught up with Regina Williams-Preston, city council member representing District 2 – my home district (where my paper route was, where I lived, where I voted). We had a much lengthier conversation, but I should let her speak for herself: https://youtu.be/ujMFZB5xL7E (me, behind the camera) Regina’s a Bernie person. Me too. So is much of South Bend’s (absolutely brilliant) Black community. South Bend’s west side hasn’t /endorsed/ Pete, that’s true; nor has Regina, nor even West. Obama has: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/11/28/obama-reckons-with-a-trump-presidency Anyway, my radical leftists platform aligns closer to your radical leftist platform than to Pete’s soft leftist platform, but you sure don’t want /me/ to be POTUS. And I intend to create as much space for Pete to move left as I’m able. It’s something I can do. In these desperate times, this path looks bright and green and shiny. We can’t have Trump, and Pete would /destroy/ Trump in the general. Biden sundowns. Kamila’s a prosecutor, BLM will oppose her. Tulsi’s a cop and an atheist; I’m an atheist myself, but the GOP will win that battle for votes. That really leaves Bernie (my guy for sure, and the first choice of most of South Bend across all classifications), Warren and Buttigieg. Obama could easily play kingmaker there. As I said before, this forum has underestimated his character and his chances. Pete good.
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Aug 6, 2019 04:10
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ok but I wont vote for him
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Mayor Pete should spend the rest of his work life behind a desk doing some analytics for some corporation on how soybeans are doing. I think that's the best fit for him. Out of the way.
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Aug 6, 2019 04:13
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Gatts posted:Mayor Pete should spend the rest of his work life behind a desk doing some analytics for some corporation on how soybeans are doing. I think that's the best fit for him. Out of the way. He did do math so good in Afghanistan that it defeated the Taliban and ended all the violence which is why that war is finally over.
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Aug 6, 2019 04:15
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Uglycat posted:Anyway, my radical leftists platform aligns closer to your radical leftist platform than to Pete’s soft leftist platform, but you sure don’t want /me/ to be POTUS. This is false.
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Aug 6, 2019 04:24
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Uglycat posted:See, the thing about Mayor Pete that I would really like to emphasize… In time you will come to find that you are very /very/ *wrong*.
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Ague Proof posted:This is false. Picker of Our Trash, Unused, and poo poo.
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Aug 6, 2019 04:31
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Uglycat posted:See, the thing about Mayor Pete that I would really like to emphasize… Uglycat this is the thing you need to communicate to Pete: He's not communicating or evoking empathy in groups that are not white and older than 30. He needs to be able to show that he gives a poo poo to people who do not trust him. He has to demonstrate to them, that he is for them. This cannot be faked. Nothing he does will be interpreted in the way that you interpret it, until he can accomplish that. And he has to keep his own authenticity while doing it. He needs to get right on race. In the debate when Tim Ryan went after him on it... it could be seen in his face. He didn't say anything, but his face said : it's not that simple. What you've said does confirm that it is indeed, not that simple. It's not the season for figs. He needs to get right on race. It does not matter if it is complicated. If he doesnt get right on it what he will encounter is :“May no one ever eat fruit from you again.” Tangentially he should read the Socialist Desicion. If he's going to make arguements rooted in The Courage to Be, he should read that one especially now.
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An astounding number of words amounting to a hollow “he’s good, trust me bro”.
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BrandorKP posted:Uglycat this is the thing you need to communicate to Pete: He's not communicating or evoking empathy in groups that are not white and older than 30. He needs to be able to show that he gives a poo poo to people who do not trust him. He has to demonstrate to them, that he is for them. This cannot be faked. Ok, I can appreciate this post. Uglycat, communicate to Pete that he has to at least sad McKinsey does bad stuff and to start he can excuse everyone as poor foolish management consultants, but he has to at least publicly admit the company does a lot of bad. That'd go a long way, even if it pisses off some of the partners.
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Aug 6, 2019 04:53
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Uglycat posted:Regina’s a Bernie person. Me too. So is much of South Bend’s (absolutely brilliant) Black community. Aside from the fact that Obama sucks, I'm not sure mentioning Buttigieg offhand alongside such luminaries as Tim Kaine and Michael Bennett as being the future of the party is a particularly stellar endorsement. "Who do I think is the future of the party? Well here's a list of people who are neoliberal shills just like me."
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Office Pig posted:An astounding number of words amounting to a hollow “he’s good, trust me bro”. Yeah, I don't know if these guys realize how bizarre it appears to people that don't have the same irrational gut instinct to trust people who look and sound like Buttigieg. There is no logical reason to think this guy is any more capable of having not-poo poo politics than Kamala Harris or Tim Ryan or whatever. If you showed me both Barack Obama prior to being elected president and current Pete Buttigieg, Obama would actually end up looking better in terms of politics and personality, and we know how that turned out. And the thing that needs to be emphasized here is that the positive gut feeling Brandor (and maybe Uglycat, though his perspective isn't as clear to me) have towards Buttigieg is not harmless and stems from the same place that leads employers to hire/promote a certain type of white man. "This guy just gives me a good feeling" is not defensible on the grounds of "it's just my opinion" when it's the sort of opinion that is repeatedly used to justify propping up upper-class white men. Trabisnikof posted:Uglycat, communicate to Pete that he has to at least sad McKinsey does bad stuff and to start he can excuse everyone as poor foolish management consultants, but he has to at least publicly admit the company does a lot of bad. That'd go a long way, even if it pisses off some of the partners. I'm not sure if "Buttigieg becoming better at pretending to be progressive" is particularly desirable. I feel like it's actually been a massing blessing in disguise that Democratic politicians have been so bad at faking left-wing politics. All it would take is someone being a good actor and lying through their teeth, and I think they could succeed at tricking enough people to defuse any legitimate left-wing movement. But fortunately all these people are incapable of pulling off a convincing imitation. Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 05:00 on Aug 6, 2019 |
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Ytlaya posted:I'm not sure if "Buttigieg becoming better at pretending to be progressive" is particularly desirable. I feel like it's actually been a massing blessing in disguise that Democratic politicians have been so bad at faking left-wing politics. All it would take is someone being a good actor and lying through their teeth, and I think they could succeed at tricking enough people to defuse any legitimate left-wing movement. But fortunately all these people are incapable of pulling off a convincing imitation. I was working from the premise that Buttigieg is a late life convert like Warren's story, and proffering advice from there. I'm not too worried about the Wolf in Sheep's clothing based mainly on the status of the current field. Castro is a great example. I think he's the real deal when it comes to someone who is a suit who can pander to the left. Look how well he's doing. Its because the ideological inconsistencies are too great. Imagine if Pete started to discuss the crimes that management consultants in general commit. Well of course, he can caveat away the moral responsibility of the specific consultants who decide to close a factory or suggest who to murder, but he's still indicting the system at large. He'd either be forced to burn his connections with the powerful by repudiating them forcefully or sound hollow and false as he says "sure helping someone murder is bad, but if you're using a spreadsheet no one is to blame."
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Wicked Them Beats posted:Aside from the fact that Obama sucks, I'm not sure mentioning Buttigieg offhand alongside such luminaries as Tim Kaine and Michael Bennett as being the future of the party is a particularly stellar endorsement. "Who do I think is the future of the party? Well here's a list of people who are neoliberal shills just like me." Oh, Tim Kaine... the loving nobody who authored a bill to make it *harder* for PoC borrowers to prove they were being redlined and discriminated against by banks. In 2018. He actively rolled back anti-red lining regulations because... ??? https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/democrats-banks-racial-discrimination_n_5a96e489e4b0e6a523042fc8?guccounter=1 Every time I remember Tim Kaine, I remember how lovely HRC's political instincts were.
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Ytlaya posted:stems from the same place that leads employers to hire/promote a certain type of white man. It's much simpler than that dude. Ex-navy federal academy grad (KP) who is a Christian existentialist with a systems and mangement background who uses it to keep people from dying is going to have a soft spot for a candidate like Pete.
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Pete’s “they’ll call us socialists anyway” statement practically undermines his meager policy proposals and if he means well then after Bernie and Warren fix the country and he realized his 2019 agenda didn’t go far enough he can be trusted to not gently caress up what they built. There’s a million “Medicare for all who can afford the buy-in” proposals out there so I don’t blame him for that, but his SCOTUS idea is a deal-breaker.
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Aug 6, 2019 06:12
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Pembroke Fuse posted:Every time I remember Tim Kaine, I remember how lovely HRC's political instincts were. How can you possibly say this about the genius pair who introduced us to "Trumped-up, trickle-down economics"?
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Ytlaya posted:I'm not sure if "Buttigieg becoming better at pretending to be progressive" is particularly desirable. I feel like it's actually been a massing blessing in disguise that Democratic politicians have been so bad at faking left-wing politics. All it would take is someone being a good actor and lying through their teeth, and I think they could succeed at tricking enough people to defuse any legitimate left-wing movement. But fortunately all these people are incapable of pulling off a convincing imitation. This also extends to how they probably could have co-opted AOC and other leftists in the long run, but their complete inability to stop enabling Republicans means that having any kind of consistent moral standards inevitably brings them into conflict and having extremely normal ones on twitter about how those ungrateful undecorous leftists won't even vote to fund the concentration camps, and the Republicans won't go along with the attempt to draw a divide and gladly take the excuse to paint all Democrats as filthy socialists anyway.
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Wicked Them Beats posted:Aside from the fact that Obama sucks, I'm not sure mentioning Buttigieg offhand alongside such luminaries as Tim Kaine and Michael Bennett as being the future of the party is a particularly stellar endorsement. "Who do I think is the future of the party? Well here's a list of people who are neoliberal shills just like me." Reminder that uglycst thinks Putin personally murdered Seth Rich to sink her campaign so arguing from reality is a mistake.
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tylersayten posted:Oh great, we’re doing the 90s strategy of blaming Grand Theft Auto and Marilyn Manson again Thank God it's just the Republicans this time I guess? (please let it just be the Republicans; shut the gently caress up, Chuck Schumer, even though I know you really want to weigh in on this) e: motherfucker, I missed the Biden quote. Of course. Luckyellow posted:How the heck did Klobuchar improve in people's eyes? There's a contingent of Boomer Dems whose number 1 priority is to tell uppity Millennials and Zoomers to shut the gently caress up and fall in line. Klob feeds that craving perfectly. Majorian fucked around with this message at 07:02 on Aug 6, 2019 |
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Aug 6, 2019 06:59
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arent all the white zoomers nazis
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cargo cult posted:arent all the white zoomers nazis They're overwhelmingly socialists, the nazis are just the only ones who get to be on the news.
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