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So I just came across something stupid in my collection as I was packing my trades. Back in 2001, Marvel ran a readers poll asking for their picks of the greatest Marvel comics of all time. They collected the top twenty-five of these into a series of trades that were released weekly except the top five which were reprinted on their own. The thing is that a lot of the selections were... interesting. And by "interesting" I mean, "generally bad and in a few cases actively obscene". I'll post the full list in a moment, but I would be remiss if I didn't highlight that Amazing Spider-Man 33 was number 15 on the list and Spider-Man 1 was number 14 (yes, that Spider-Man 1). Now for your horror and delight, here are The 100 Greatest Marvels of All Time Comic book fans in 2001 posted:100. Generation X #1
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Aug 1, 2019 22:29
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Random Stranger posted:So I just came across something stupid in my collection as I was packing my trades. Back in 2001, Marvel ran a readers poll asking for their picks of the greatest Marvel comics of all time. They collected the top twenty-five of these into a series of trades that were released weekly except the top five which were reprinted on their own. The thing is that a lot of the selections were... interesting. And by "interesting" I mean, "generally bad and in a few cases actively obscene". I'll post the full list in a moment, but I would be remiss if I didn't highlight that Amazing Spider-Man 33 was number 15 on the list and Spider-Man 1 was number 14 (yes, that Spider-Man 1). That's when they gave McFarlane his own Spider-Man comic right? I had the trade of the first arc and it's not great writing wise, but I don't remember anything super offensive about it.
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Aug 1, 2019 22:41
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Madkal posted:Also whatever happened to Moench? I loved his Batman run with Jones, and every now and again they reunite, but it seems he had a steep drop off after the late 90's which is a shame. All Batman related comics Moench wrote for DC after '97ish are really bad.
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Aug 1, 2019 22:44
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Skwirl posted:That's when they gave McFarlane his own Spider-Man comic right? I had the trade of the first arc and it's not great writing wise, but I don't remember anything super offensive about it. The writing is incredibly lovely, but the real crime is an unreadably bad Spider-Man book was the more popular pick than what is defendably the best Spider-Man story ever.
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Aug 1, 2019 22:45
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Random Stranger posted:The writing is incredibly lovely, but the real crime is an unreadably bad Spider-Man book was the more popular pick than what is defendably the best Spider-Man story ever. I was just wondering if I'd forgotten something worse since you mentioned some of the choices being "actively obscene" in the previous sentence.
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Aug 1, 2019 22:49
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The vast majority of that list is based on "significance" as much as quality of the story, at least Spider-Man (1990) #1 and X-Men (1991) #1 have what is generally considered to be cool art, and are historically significant in terms of the industry. I'm more confused by things like Uncanny X-Men #350 (The Trial of Gambit) and Wolverine #145 ("Turns out Wolverine's been impersonated by a Skrull for the past year!") making the list, much less the first appearances of like... Sexy Ninja Psylocke, Bishop, the Sentinels, the Blob, Morbius, etc.
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Aug 1, 2019 22:54
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The trial of Gambit for formerly helping Sinister felt like a huge deal back then. It was near third Summers brother type poo poo.
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Aug 2, 2019 00:38
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Don't know where else to post this, but this dude did a really heartfelt video about what Superman means to him and the moral value of Superman stories. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jz5nB7erEXw Some of you might know I am not the biggest Superman fan on these boards but I have a renewed perspective on the character from this video.
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Aug 2, 2019 23:45
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Lurdiak posted:Don't know where else to post this, but this dude did a really heartfelt video about what Superman means to him and the moral value of Superman stories. You should read "It's a bird" if you haven't.
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Aug 3, 2019 01:13
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I just stumbled across done boxes of old comics I collected. From looking through them, they're pretty much the (near) complete run of the first Deadpool series (including Agent X), what looks to be like a good number of the various ultimate marvel universe series (mainly spiderman) and a bunch of spawn comics (IIRC, from about issue 70 through to 100 or soothing). I'm trying to decide what to do with them. I'm keeping Deadpool because that series was awesome, but would it be worth going through the effort to sell something like the ultimate universe and Spawn? Or is their only value nostalgia?
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Aug 5, 2019 08:15
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Kin posted:I just stumbled across done boxes of old comics I collected. Ultimate Spider-Man number 1 (the actual first issue, where Uncle Ben is still alive, that series had a bunch of number 1's) is worth some money, I don't know about the rest of it. If you don't mind putting in a little time, search the earliest issue of anything you have for prices, and for Spawn, if you have the Neil Gaiman poo poo or anything involving Medieval Spawn or Angela those might be worth something since they sure as gently caress aren't getting reprinted anytime soon.
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Aug 5, 2019 09:12
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In looking at how behind I am on reading new comics, I've decided it's time to cut a bunch of stuff. If I'm not excited to read the new issue, then I'm just not bothering anymore.
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Aug 6, 2019 14:51
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Doctor Spaceman posted:New Marvel card game from FFG looks decent. They've just put the rules up online for free. Kinda weird to see Classic Doc Ock alongside Captain Marvel, though. Yvonmukluk fucked around with this message at 15:08 on Aug 6, 2019 |
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Aug 6, 2019 15:03
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Quick personal question: How often do you goons re-read single issues compared to trade volumes?
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Aug 7, 2019 18:45
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Madkal posted:Quick personal question: How often do you goons re-read single issues compared to trade volumes? 50/50. I am currently reading Kupperburg Doom Patrol, and that's all in singles. There's something about pulling out a single issue and reading it as originally crafted, looking at the editorial notes, letter column, and ads. I like reading singles. It also slows me down a bit, which isn't necessarily a good thing, but also isn't a bad thing.
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Aug 7, 2019 19:32
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Probably not what you're asking, but I do have to re-read at least the end of most comics when a new issue comes out cause I have a poo poo memory.
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Aug 7, 2019 19:38
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I mean, i read single issues all the time cuz that's how they come out on Wednesdays so that's what my collection mostly consists of, but if you're asking if i ever have the urge to re-read just one issue, no i can't think of a time i ever wanted to go back to one particular issue and not just re-read an arc
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Aug 7, 2019 19:42
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I guess what I am getting at is that I buy single issues every Wednesday, read them and the board them/stack them and that's about it. But if I get a trade I am more likely to re-read that over pulling out maybe a 6 or so single issues for rereading a single arc. I just find that I don't re-read single issues much anymore after the initial read. I have comics from when I was a kid that I used to read until the covers came off. Now I have a bunch that I usually end up donating after only being read once.
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Aug 7, 2019 20:01
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I rarely re-read singles, which is a LARGE part of why I switched to digital.
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Aug 7, 2019 20:06
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Madkal posted:I guess what I am getting at is that I buy single issues every Wednesday, read them and the board them/stack them and that's about it. But if I get a trade I am more likely to re-read that over pulling out maybe a 6 or so single issues for rereading a single arc. Honestly most of the time when I buy trades they just end up on my shelves anyway. So it's really about what form I want to collect the work in. I think the digital pricing is ridiculous, so I'm not willing to go heavy into digital single issue buys for my weekly pulls.
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Aug 7, 2019 20:27
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I think it depends on how contained the story is too. Like I'm more likely to read a trade that encapsulates an entire story (e.g. Transmet, watchmen) than I am a slice of serial storytelling (e.g. Spiderman issues 290-300).
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Aug 7, 2019 21:25
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https://twitter.com/McKelvie/status/1159201961415237634?s=20
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Aug 7, 2019 21:42
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Back in the 90s...
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Aug 8, 2019 00:54
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If you have the least amount of interest in the X-men you owe it to yourself to read House of X and Powers of X. The whole creative team is putting in the work!.
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Aug 9, 2019 04:21
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Vincent posted:If you have the least amount of interest in the X-men you owe it to yourself to read House of X and Powers of X. The whole creative team is putting in the work!. It's pushing so many of my mutants-as-futurism buttons.
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Aug 9, 2019 19:29
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Death Battle just did an episode on Ghost Rider vs. Lobo and it's a pretty fun one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UABTaB-_i8
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Aug 15, 2019 02:31
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Do they fall behind a bar, only for Ghost Rider to rise up in victory?
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Aug 15, 2019 13:02
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Endless Mike posted:Do they fall behind a bar, only for Ghost Rider to rise up in victory? It's more Preacher than Marvel vs. DC. Lobo blows up a big chunk of the Earth and all, but... not enough gun.
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Aug 15, 2019 14:08
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https://twitter.com/McKelvie/status/1161908952512290816?s=20
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Aug 15, 2019 15:00
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https://twitter.com/Newsarama/status/1162133274774396929
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Aug 16, 2019 00:04
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Thought that meant work from home at first
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Aug 16, 2019 00:06
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I know I'm way late on this, but I finally got around to Captain Marvel. I didn't follow any of the ~discourse~ around it at the time, but I was aware that there was a small but very vocal group of people online who were extremely mad about it. And now, having seen it, I think I know why they were mad and I'm 100% with them In Iron Man, Tony Stark had never heard of SHIELD. And when asked about it, Coulson said they were new. Now, the Captain America movies gave Shield this decades long backstory, and SHIELD became a very open and active player in later Marvel movies. But you could square that by saying that SHIELD had been operating in secrecy or obscurity up until the Battle of New York, which forced them and the Avengers project into the spotlight. But in Captain Marvel, Nick Fury is flashing his SHIELD badge to randos on the street in the mid 90s! What the gently caress! People were right to be mad about Captain Marvel
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Aug 16, 2019 00:31
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Gripweed posted:
Coulson doesn't say that they were new though, he said they were secret.
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Aug 16, 2019 08:04
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He sort of implied that the acronym was new.
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Aug 16, 2019 09:54
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Either way, it was established that "SHIELD" wasn't common knowledge in the general public
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Aug 16, 2019 12:23
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Yeah there's two scenes where he says the name of the organization to Pepper and then says "we're working on it" which would imply that the short name was new.
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Aug 16, 2019 14:10
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I mean, if someone wandered past you holding up a badge and saying a name of an obscure agency would you know who they are or think about it ever again? Probably not.
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Aug 16, 2019 14:26
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Imagine being a comic book fan being shocked by a really minor retcon to what was essentially just a lame joke.
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Aug 16, 2019 14:58
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i cant believe the dumb need-something-to-be-mad-about-because-its-not-a-manga complaint regarding shield wasnt that homeland wasnt a word the govenment used until post 9/11
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Aug 16, 2019 15:29
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