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deano
Sep 6, 2000

I run a little takeaway doing breakfast and lunches in an industrial estate south scotland, and ofc a section of my customers have some takes so hot I could cook bacon on.
Served a customer yesterday, then they hung around for a while, and his solution to crime and the problems these days with the young ones would be public flogging.
I loving hate people sometimes.

I really wish i had went at him but i just kinda passively aggroed them out by loving off and making lots of noise doing dishes till they got the hint, just Venting, like up thread it was mentioned its hard when noone else seems to be on the same wavelength and least half of who i cater for have lovely opinions, i hate biting my tounge sometimes but times are hard and too many lost customers means i dont eat, just feel a bit poo poo not fighting our corner.

The climate change guy that was like so much for climate change after the mexico hail storm that bailed after i started on him felt good tho.

2 more inches of bloody rain today and the broken drains around here would had me flooded out, totaly typical for august tho.

/edit
51 An area of interest apparently and also:

deano fucked around with this message at 20:07 on Aug 6, 2019

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kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Shoves PhD in STEM subject behind back of sofa....

Whereas I have what is basically a vocational BSc in a very 'people person' field, yet I'm still a misanthrope.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

deano posted:

I run a little takeaway doing breakfast and lunches in an industrial estate south scotland, and ofc a section of my customers have some takes so hot I could cook bacon on.
Served a customer yesterday, then they hung around for a while, and his solution to crime and the problems these days with the young ones would be public flogging.
I loving hate people sometimes.
How does he account for crime being much lower than during the heyday of public corporal punishment in the 18th and 19th centuries?

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

Guavanaut posted:

How does he account for crime being much lower than during the heyday of public corporal punishment in the 18th and 19th centuries?

THEY'RE LAZY INNIT, AND BENEFITS

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Sounds good. Benefits are cheaper than policing, prosecution, and prison.

deano
Sep 6, 2000

Guavanaut posted:

How does he account for crime being much lower than during the heyday of public corporal punishment in the 18th and 19th centuries?

I doubt he would be able to, its like wack a mole you shoot down one load of poo poo and they move to another point sometimes totaly unrelated, Gets tiring. Thanks for that they only come in now and then but good to have that tucked away as a counter.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...


What's nfb? Neck loving big?

deano posted:

I run a little takeaway doing breakfast and lunches in an industrial estate south scotland, and ofc a section of my customers have some takes so hot I could cook bacon on.
Served a customer yesterday, then they hung around for a while, and his solution to crime and the problems these days with the young ones would be public flogging.
I loving hate people sometimes.

I really wish i had went at him but i just kinda passively aggroed them out by loving off and making lots of noise doing dishes till they got the hint, just Venting, like up thread it was mentioned its hard when noone else seems to be on the same wavelength and least half of who i cater for have lovely opinions, i hate biting my tounge sometimes but times are hard and too many lost customers means i dont eat, just feel a bit poo poo not fighting our corner.

The climate change guy that was like so much for climate change after the mexico hail storm that bailed after i started on him felt good tho.

2 more inches of bloody rain today and the broken drains around here would had me flooded out, totaly typical for august tho.

/edit
51 An area of interest apparently and also:


Don't feel bad about not fighting for the cause when your livelihood is on the line. You can't fight at all if you can't eat!

Miftan fucked around with this message at 20:23 on Aug 6, 2019

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

Guavanaut posted:

How does he account for crime being much lower than during the heyday of public corporal punishment in the 18th and 19th centuries?

imagine expecting logic and reasoning from a boomer's lead-addled smoothbrain

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Miftan posted:

What's nfb? Neck loving big?

No Food Brexit

Rockopolis
Dec 21, 2012

I MAKE FUN OF QUEER STORYGAMES BECAUSE I HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO WITH MY LIFE THAN MAKE OTHER PEOPLE CRY

I can't understand these kinds of games, and not getting it bugs me almost as much as me being weird

Sulphagnist posted:

STEM graduates, particularly engineers, are much more likely to become right-wing extremists, fundamentalists and terrorists than liberal art, social sciences and humanities graduates. Something about seeing human society as a machine or a mechanism with rules, causes and effects instead of the chaotic mess it actually is. Or possibly it's reversed and having a tendency to view things as mechanical is what puts you on both the engineering and terrorism paths.
No more Soviet Union to lead?
Law school, seminary (dropout), technical college (dropout), technical college (dropout), metallurgical engineer, technical college, no higher education, law school - 50% seems disproportionately high?

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.
Yesterday I decided to watch a bunch of old Jonathan Creek episodes because I remembered really liking them when I was younger and oh boy let me tell you a whole lot of it has aged very poorly.

Personal favourite parts:

- sleazy magician guy in court for sexually assaulting a hotel employee, bribes a bunch of people to testify that she's a lying grifter, gets away with away with it while she's jailed, puffs away on his cigar making wisecracks as she yells at him and gets dragged away in tears. Literally all of this played very much for laughs (what a hilarious cad!!!)

- an entire episode where there's a whole running gag that people keep thinking maddy (jc's mystery solving journalist partner) is Jewish, very very very heavily implied because she's got a kind of big nose. Again this is extremely funny!!!

The 90s were a different time...

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Jonathan Creek and the Mystery of the Secret Jew.

Wait...

Jonathan Creek
JC

oh no :ohdear:

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
This is bad for Johnemy Creebyn

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


What’s even the argument for having Indyref2 if Labour get in? Brexit almost certainly won’t happen in that instance, and hard/no deal Brexit definitely won’t. I thought that the entire argument for Indyref2 was that Brexit changed the maths on the original Indyref, which was originally supposed to be a once-in-a-generation decision.

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

KartooshFace, you are not responding efficiently!

Sulphagnist posted:

STEM graduates, particularly engineers, are much more likely to become right-wing extremists, fundamentalists and terrorists than liberal art, social sciences and humanities graduates. Something about seeing human society as a machine or a mechanism with rules, causes and effects instead of the chaotic mess it actually is. Or possibly it's reversed and having a tendency to view things as mechanical is what puts you on both the engineering and terrorism paths.

Phew, dropping out pays off again!

Tarnop
Nov 25, 2013

Pull me out

I fell asleep so this is 2 pages late, but just to be clear, I know what Labour's policy is.

Source these quotes:

radmonger posted:

Dunno about FBPE’s, but the obvious objection to that policy is that literally zero voters want to spend the next 6-12 months ignoring all other political and economic issues in order to extend Brexit in an attempt to negotiate an implausible deal.

You do know about FBPEs because all the evidence suggests that if you're not one then you're extremely adjacent.

If we crash out on no deal then Brexit will be *the* economic issue for a gently caress of a lot longer than 6-12 months. If A50 is unilaterally revoked then Brexit will be *the* political issue for a lot longer than 6-12 months. If you genuinely want to avoid no deal, then there does not exist a way of doing so that takes Brexit off the agenda for the foreseeable future, but hey I'd love to hear an alternative if you're capable of doing anything other than pissing from the sidelines.

I don't know what makes you think that a Labour negotiated deal is implausible or that it would take 6-12 months. The deal that Labour would be seeking already exists for Norway, and while it's hardly perfect it's the only thing that respects the referendum result without tipping us off the cliff.

deano
Sep 6, 2000

Miftan posted:

What's nfb? Neck loving big?


Don't feel bad about not fighting for the cause when your livelihood is on the line. You can't fight at all if you can't eat!

I know just feels a bit poo poo not trying at least even tho honestly most of them are likely a lost cause so its, take money nod head.

Filboid Studge
Oct 1, 2010
And while they debated the matter among themselves, Conradin made himself another piece of toast.

deano posted:

I doubt he would be able to, its like wack a mole you shoot down one load of poo poo and they move to another point sometimes totaly unrelated, Gets tiring. Thanks for that they only come in now and then but good to have that tucked away as a counter.

I just had this on Twitter with some gammons dude, ex-tribal Labour and now BXP. Totally bought into the Swabian housewife fallacy and will vote for hard-right toffs instead of socialists, because Gordon spent all the poonds and therefore McDonnell would abolish banking regulations. I don’t loving know why I let myself get drawn in.

pitch a fitness
Mar 19, 2010

Miftan posted:

What's nfb? Neck loving big?

NFB was a medical abbreviation used around somerset. (no doubt abhorrent views aside) there's nothing wrong with that dude, he's just Normal For Bridgwater

marktheando
Nov 4, 2006

Comrade Fakename posted:

What’s even the argument for having Indyref2 if Labour get in? Brexit almost certainly won’t happen in that instance, and hard/no deal Brexit definitely won’t. I thought that the entire argument for Indyref2 was that Brexit changed the maths on the original Indyref, which was originally supposed to be a once-in-a-generation decision.

I'd argue that even if Brexit doesn't happen, the years of Brexit chaos have strengthened the case for independence. Even with no Brexit and Corbyn PM, who know what hosed up poo poo will happen when the next tory government comes along? Brexit 2?

And I don't know about the once in a generation thing, that's just something Alex Salmond said once it's not like it was binding for the whole independence movement. Anyway I always read that statement more as "this could be our only chance for a generation" instead of "we promise to stop pursuing independence for 20 years in the event of a no vote".


Tarnop posted:


I don't know what makes you think that a Labour negotiated deal is implausible or that it would take 6-12 months. The deal that Labour would be seeking already exists for Norway, and while it's hardly perfect it's the only thing that respects the referendum result without tipping us off the cliff.

A Norway type deal would not be seen as respecting the result of the referendum, it would be seen as a betrayal almost as bad as revoking article 50.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

deano posted:

I know just feels a bit poo poo not trying at least even tho honestly most of them are likely a lost cause so its, take money nod head.

Take their money and give some of it to the poor just to spite them! That'll show 'em!

deano
Sep 6, 2000

Filboid Studge posted:

I just had this on Twitter with some gammons dude, ex-tribal Labour and now BXP. Totally bought into the Swabian housewife fallacy and will vote for hard-right toffs instead of socialists, because Gordon spent all the poonds and therefore McDonnell would abolish banking regulations. I don’t loving know why I let myself get drawn in.

Cause to be correct in a correct way feels good, arguing releases the anger and someting someting brain chemistry, idk someone do a study.

Scikar
Nov 20, 2005

5? Seriously?

Comrade Fakename posted:

What’s even the argument for having Indyref2 if Labour get in? Brexit almost certainly won’t happen in that instance, and hard/no deal Brexit definitely won’t. I thought that the entire argument for Indyref2 was that Brexit changed the maths on the original Indyref, which was originally supposed to be a once-in-a-generation decision.

If Labour get a minority lead in a GE then the SNP might trade Indyref2 for confidence votes.

marktheando posted:

A Norway type deal would not be seen as respecting the result of the referendum, it would be seen as a betrayal almost as bad as revoking article 50.

Only because the debate is now poisoned. But there are loads of clips of Leave campaigners like Farage, Gove, Hannan etc. talking about Norway and Switzerland as examples of deals we could make. Just stitch them together and give every Labour MP an app that plays them directly, then hold it up every time anyone says it's not what people voted for.

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

NewMars posted:

That man. I don't know what it is exactly, but give him a big red rubber nose and he's literally every stereotypical sleazy circus clown ever.
He straight up looks exactly like one of the drunken bakers.


Guavanaut posted:

How does he account for crime being much lower than during the heyday of public corporal punishment in the 18th and 19th centuries?
It seems higher now to people who read pearl clutching opinion pieces without looking at things like statistics and reality.

Tarnop
Nov 25, 2013

Pull me out

marktheando posted:

A Norway type deal would not be seen as respecting the result of the referendum, it would be seen as a betrayal almost as bad as revoking article 50.

No version of Brexit exists that wouldn't be seen as a betrayal by some loud faction. My point is that a Norway deal is not implausible, nor would it take a year to negotiate. Brexit is now part of the political landscape for at least a generation, so again, if you've got a better suggestion I'd love to hear it.

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

Comrade Fakename posted:

What’s even the argument for having Indyref2 if Labour get in? Brexit almost certainly won’t happen in that instance, and hard/no deal Brexit definitely won’t. I thought that the entire argument for Indyref2 was that Brexit changed the maths on the original Indyref, which was originally supposed to be a once-in-a-generation decision.
The original Indyref feels like a generation ago though.

deano
Sep 6, 2000

Miftan posted:

Take their money and give some of it to the poor just to spite them! That'll show 'em!
Donate excess stock to food banks.

marktheando
Nov 4, 2006

Scikar posted:

Only because the debate is now poisoned. But there are loads of clips of Leave campaigners like Farage, Gove, Hannan etc. talking about Norway and Switzerland as examples of deals we could make. Just stitch them together and give every Labour MP an app that plays them directly, then hold it up every time anyone says it's not what people voted for.

Haha this doesn't work they just brush it off. But yeah I agree that a Norway deal would be respecting the result on paper. But the Brexiteer obsession with immigration means that freedom of movement will always be a red line so any soft Brexit is off the table. Nobody wants it.

Tarnop posted:

No version of Brexit exists that wouldn't be seen as a betrayal by some loud faction. My point is that a Norway deal is not implausible, nor would it take a year to negotiate. Brexit is now part of the political landscape for at least a generation, so again, if you've got a better suggestion I'd love to hear it.

The least worst option is and always has been revoking article 50.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

deano posted:

Donate excess stock to food banks.

You're a good egg.

Tarnop
Nov 25, 2013

Pull me out

marktheando posted:

The least worst option is and always has been revoking article 50.

Gee, I wonder if there's a political party that might do well on the back of an irrefutable betrayal narrative at the next GE. Least worst my arse.

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea

marktheando posted:

The least worst option is and always has been revoking article 50.

I've always been partial to revoking the status of our MEPs and leaving it at that.

marktheando
Nov 4, 2006

Tarnop posted:

Gee, I wonder if there's a political party that might do well on the back of an irrefutable betrayal narrative at the next GE. Least worst my arse.

Well yeah as you say there is no possible Brexit scenario that won't be seen as a betrayal. So may as well not Brexit.

xtothez
Jan 4, 2004


College Slice

Gort posted:

I've always been partial to revoking the status of our MEPs and leaving it at that.

After hearing (some of) them go on for years about 'unelected Brussels bureaucrats', it would be pretty hilarious to drag these elected Brussels bureaucrats back home and watch them trying to justify why they should still get a high salary, pension and expenses for doing gently caress all.

deano
Sep 6, 2000

Miftan posted:

You're a good egg.

Also a good egg

:D

Sanford
Jun 30, 2007

...and rarely post!


If anyone lost 40 Marlboro gold in a Welcome Break on the m5 today, I’ve got them. What does twenty fags cost these days? Are they more at a service station?

Skarsnik
Oct 21, 2008

I...AM...RUUUDE!





"I dunno, just look a bit brexity?"

radmonger
Jun 6, 2011

Tarnop posted:

No version of Brexit exists that wouldn't be seen as a betrayal by some loud faction. My point is that a Norway deal is not implausible, nor would it take a year to negotiate. Brexit is now part of the political landscape for at least a generation, so again, if you've got a better suggestion I'd love to hear it.

I would consider it implausible that Labour could negotiate a deal that led to satisfying 20% of leave voters while keeping the ~2024 GDP within 20% of what it would have been otherwise.

The best route to satisfying a larger percentage of Brexit voters is to spend some of the resources and effort that lost money would represent on infrastructure, health care, welfare, industrial investment and culture. While stressing that we would never have been in a position to do so without the shock to the status quo represented by the Brexit vote.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

deano posted:

Also a good egg

:D

That is neither good nor an egg.

(shut up Rarity no it isn't)

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

wiggly eyes!



Sanford posted:

If anyone lost 40 Marlboro gold in a Welcome Break on the m5 today, I’ve got them. What does twenty fags cost these days? Are they more at a service station?

They were around a fiver/20 a decade and a bit ago when I worked in Tesco so I would reckon upwards of a tenner for 20 now. Brexit proof product you’ve got there.

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deano
Sep 6, 2000

Sanford posted:

If anyone lost 40 Marlboro gold in a Welcome Break on the m5 today, I’ve got them. What does twenty fags cost these days? Are they more at a service station?

30 quid maybe for 40

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