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MasBrillante
Dec 3, 2005

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Baronjutter posted:

US drug testing culture is something I just can't wrap my head around. I can sort of understand it for heavy equipment operators, but in the US it seems more like a weird moral purity thing.

It is, which is why as long as I have the privilege to do so I won’t even bother with companies or institutions that do it. It’s just surveillance.

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hawowanlawow
Jul 27, 2009

dude should've just taken it and failed, let the boss and the hr troll duke it out

pooch516
Mar 10, 2010

Sagebrush posted:

an hr person is a petty, spiteful mini-tyrant, you say

I would have never expected such, especially considering she owns a company!

bamhand
Apr 15, 2010

Doc Hawkins posted:

Federal contracting, especially DoD TS/CI poo poo.

Finance as well. I had to do one when I joined my company and then I have to do another one for each client I get put on.

Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

Baronjutter posted:

US drug testing culture is something I just can't wrap my head around. I can sort of understand it for heavy equipment operators, but in the US it seems more like a weird moral purity thing.

it's used among low income wage earners mostly to keep a steady rate of turnover and depress wages. you don't want people working the same basic cashier/stocker job for years on end because then they start demanding better treatment, can more easily unionize with other coworkers they feel loyalty to, etc. you want to keep these workers feeling disposable

once you're a salaried white collar worker the rules change. you're even allowed to drink on the job (this is also a trap)

it dont matter
Aug 29, 2008

MIL’s negligence could have seriously harmed my child and I’m not sure how to treat her now


quote:

I think I’m not overreacting about this one. So my husband and I, we took our 4-year-old son to MIL’s house. She lives in the countryside with a forest behind her house and he was going to spend the day with his grandmother while we’re doing job-related things in the city.

In the evening we come to pick our son up and everything seemed fine. I noticed that he’s a bit slow and apathetic but we thought that he’s just tired from playing all day long. We come home and as I’m undressing him, taking off his shoes and jacket, he winces when I pull the sleeve on one of his arms. When the jacket comes off, I see that his arm is visibly red and swollen. He said it hurt and didn’t want no one to touch his arm and when I asked what happened to him, he said ”snake”.

My husband and I, we’re both in shock. My husband grabs his phone and calls MIL and he’s like ”Our son was totally fine when we brought him to you. What happened to his arm and why is he saying that a snake did it?”

MIL said ”Oh yes, he was bitten by a snake when were taking a walk in the forest. But don’t worry, it was just a grass snake, it’s not venomous.”

She sends us a picture of the snake that she took right after it happened. It was some gray snake and my husband asked MIL why didn’t she call us immediately and why didn’t she say anything when we came to pick him up. She was like ”Because it’s no big deal, it’s just grass snake, I have been bitten by those too. Just wash the wound and he’ll be fine in a few days.”

So we kind of trusted MIL because she has lived in the countryside her whole life and we believed that she knew animals and could tell them apart. We called our doctor and she confirmed that while the grass snake’s bite can be painful, it isn’t dangerous.

A few hours go by and our son gets worse. He starts vomiting, he has a high fever and his arm is turning bluish. We rush him to the hospital, I tell the doctor what happened and show him the picture of the snake that MIL sent us. He looks at it and he’s like ”Ma’am, that’s not a grass snake. That’s a viper.”

My heart dropped into my stomach because vipers are venomous snakes. There are many species of them and those who live in our region aren’t super venomous but their venom can still kill a human, especially a child. So my son was admitted in the hospital and given antivenom serum. Now he feels a lot better but still needs to stay in the hospital for observation.

We call MIL again and tell her everything. She was repeating the whole time ”It cannot be, I know snakes, that was definitely a grass snake!” Well, it wasn’t, MIL. I googled pictures of vipers and many of them look exactly like in MIL’s picture. It’s possible that she was just mistaken because grass snake and viper look kinda similar, they’re both gray snakes with some minor differences. And I was interested in how that happened in the first place. I’m not a zoologist but I’m pretty sure snakes don’t prey on humans, they tend to avoid humans and only attack if they’re bothered in some way.

MIL said ”Well, it was on the stump in the sun and maybe he poked it a bit. I just turned my back for a moment. He’s a big boy now and should know himself that snakes aren’t meant to be touched.”

No, MIL, he’s just 4 years old. He’s still very little and doesn’t fully realize yet that the thing he wants to explore could be dangerous. That’s why you’re there to make sure he’s safe. We left him at your house and we trusted you to keep him safe, that was your responsibility. Of course, sometimes accidents happen that no one is responsible for. Like, if you were walking and a tree branch fell onto his head, no one would blame you for that. But if you’re not looking after the child to the point where you don’t see he’s touching a snake, that’s not ok. And if you’re unsure of what kind of snake bit him, just call an ambulance.

She doesn’t fully admit her fault, claiming that children are like seaweeds, moving so fast it’s hard to follow them. Nothing tragic has happened, our son is fine but I don’t know if I want to leave him alone with MIL again. This could have ended a lot differently after all.

Just a little snake bite, nothing worth mentioning

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

bamhand posted:

Finance as well. I had to do one when I joined my company and then I have to do another one for each client I get put on.

Yeah, people don't realize finance isn't really very fun anymore

cumshitter
Sep 27, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
I've never been drug tested in finance, but they're big on making sure you have a decent credit score when you apply. Although the 80's 5 martini lunches with clients aren't much of a thing anymore. I know an older salesperson who worked at a bar near a finance office back in the 80's before they moved into the industry, and he'd see the same guys getting hammered every day after market close (which is much earlier on the west coast).

Wish I could find it now but there was some kind of ruling a few years back that said it's OK to have sex with your clients so long as the sex isn't interfering with their investment strategy and is separate from any work they do. And that's the day I decided to incorporate.

Sunswipe
Feb 5, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

alphabettitouretti posted:

MIL’s negligence could have seriously harmed my child and I’m not sure how to treat her now


Just a little snake bite, nothing worth mentioning

I look forward to hearing from the MIL in the estranged parents thread in a couple of years time.

Fatkraken
Jun 23, 2005

Fun-time is over.
I found the Hot sauce prank guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQFrHAfDlFA&t=36s

Ebola Roulette
Sep 13, 2010

No matter what you win lose ragepiss.

DemoneeHo posted:

Can my ex wife make me take a breathalyzer at her will? Not court ordered. Texas.

My wife (28) and I(28) got a divorce about 4 months ago. It was uncontested

:rolleyes:

Let me guess he didn't hire a lawyer. See these guys don't hire lawyers and let the ex steamroll them in a divorce and then rant on MGTOW that the courts favor women.

Sunswipe posted:

I look forward to hearing from the MIL in the estranged parents thread in a couple of years time.

I'm sure the post will be vague and blame it all on the evil DIL.

therobit
Aug 19, 2008

I've been tryin' to speak with you for a long time
I feel like even in a "no holds barred" roast you should probably not make rape jokes to begin with, let alone jokes about an actual rape that happened to a person.

cumshitter
Sep 27, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

Ebola Roulette posted:

:rolleyes:

Let me guess he didn't hire a lawyer. See these guys don't hire lawyers and let the ex steamroll them in a divorce and then rant on MGTOW that the courts favor women.

Looked at this one earlier, and no, he did not.

Breathalyzer OP posted:

It was a non contested divorce. I thought the hiring of lawyers and fighting would only end in little resolve and alot of money spent that otherwise would be put towards my son. I wanted 50/50. But the mediator we hired and her both said that could not happen in Texas. Currently she still let's me come over non custodial days to bathe him and put him to sleep from time to time. And she promised that. So I gave in trying to not have to pay extreme lawyer fees. I realize my mistakes now.

Happitoo
Nov 24, 2005

We are going to go for the store, then the district manager. Then WE ARE GOING TO THE CORPORATE OFFICE AND THEN TO THE EXECUTIVES! DXRYAHHHHHHHHH!!

cumshitter posted:

Looked at this one earlier, and no, he did not.

Reading his other comments dug up in the BoLA thread he’s also possibly an alcoholic who gets absolutely obliterated every weekend. Which ya know, could explain the breathalyzer and the divorce.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

therobit posted:

I feel like even in a "no holds barred" roast you should probably not make rape jokes to begin with, let alone jokes about an actual rape that happened to a person.

Feels icky to defend someone who appears to be an actual predator based on his post history, but the people who hosted the roast told the OP there were no limits, asked him not to participate, then made rape jokes about him - that's pretty lovely behavior. He loses the moral high ground with his jokes in response but he was in a sucky situation and realistically should have left his partner for putting him in it.

Then again with him more or less admitting to being an actual rapist it's a fair presumption there's more to the story.

Power Khan
Aug 20, 2011

by Fritz the Horse

alphabettitouretti posted:

MIL’s negligence could have seriously harmed my child and I’m not sure how to treat her now


Just a little snake bite, nothing worth mentioning

Jfc. Don't let that idiot MIL anywhere near your kid again

ad090
Oct 4, 2013

claws for alarm
AITA for getting upset that my sister’s fiancé pulled me aside and patted me down at their wedding?

quote:

The title sounds so stupid but here we go anyways.

I’m 24 and I’m an addict who has been in recovery for the past six months.

I used and used until I was basically in poverty and my older sister helped bail me out more than once.

She’s my best friend and I know it hurt her a lot to see me like that.

She also met her fiancé two years ago and he really only knew me as the junkie brother then. He’s not my biggest fan to say the least considering how much I put my sister through.

Despite this she still invited me to her wedding last week because I am her brother and she wanted me to be there.

When I get to the reception, my brother in law is greeting people as they walk in.

When I walk by he pulls me to the side and in front of everyone starts patting me down and says that he needs to check me to make sure I “didn’t bring anything in”. I instinctively pull away, because why wouldn’t I, and I tell him not to touch me.

He tells me to “calm down” and that if I want to be here then he needs to do this. I tell him he’s being ridiculous and I try to push past him. He stops me and tells me that he doesn’t want to throw me out but he “will if he has to.” I told him that he’s trying to look tough but it’s just making him look stupid.

At this point I’m getting more and more angry and I’m practically yelling in his face at this point. Bystanders came between us and separated us and told my BIL to just “drop it.” He said he would but that “they can deal with it when I get out of hand.”

I just went to go find a seat after that.

After the reception, a lot of my family told me that I should’ve let him just do it and that I was acting like a huge rear end in a top hat and like I had “something to hide.”

I don’t think he had any right to pat me down, especially in front of people and I don’t think my reaction was over the top. If anything, he was the one acting like a huge douche by trying to start drama so he can look tough. My sister has refused to take any sides in this.

AITA?

Leon Einstein
Feb 6, 2012
I must win every thread in GBS. I don't care how much banal semantic quibbling and shitty posts it takes.
Junkies don't really deserve the benefit of the doubt after 6 months.

bell jar
Feb 25, 2009

Yeah, but there was a nicer way to do it. BIL was a complete rear end in a top hat about it

Leon Einstein
Feb 6, 2012
I must win every thread in GBS. I don't care how much banal semantic quibbling and shitty posts it takes.

bell jar posted:

Yeah, but there was a nicer way to do it. BIL was a complete rear end in a top hat about it
By not inviting him?

Dr. Poz
Sep 8, 2003

Dr. Poz just diagnosed you with a serious case of being a pussy. Now get back out there and hit them till you can't remember your kid's name.

Pillbug

Leon Einstein posted:

Junkies don't really deserve the benefit of the doubt after 6 months.

Do they deserve some dignity? Could they have talked about this privately somewhere first? These aren't supportive actions, and while it would ultimately be on the OP if a relapse occurred, the BIL definitely upped the odds.

wa27
Jan 15, 2007

Leon Einstein posted:

Junkies don't really deserve the benefit of the doubt after 6 months.

So don't invite him.

Leon Einstein
Feb 6, 2012
I must win every thread in GBS. I don't care how much banal semantic quibbling and shitty posts it takes.

wa27 posted:

So don't invite him.
Agreed, but I'm sure the sister made sure he was invited.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Sister probably wanted him there but husband did not. He probably was hoping to create a situation where he could escalate to kicking junkie brother out.

ad090
Oct 4, 2013

claws for alarm
There was no reason to do a pat down in public in full view of all the guests, other then some weird power play fueled by drama. Perhaps it was a way for the BIL to get back at his future bride for inviting her junkie brother idk.

ad090
Oct 4, 2013

claws for alarm
My (36M) girlfriend (35F) got a DUI on her way to her male friend's house at 1AM when I was out of town...

quote:

This is more of a "get-off-my-chest" rant, rather than advice seeking. But I'm also looking for validation that I handled this the right way, as I overflowing with all sorts of emotions (anger, disappointment, sadness) and not in my right mind.

TL;DR: While I was out of town, my GF was arrested and charged with a DUI at 1am on her way to a former FWB's house

Background: My GF and I have been dating for 2 years. Living together for 3 months. We each have two young children who adore each other. Things have been pretty great on the whole. Great parents, we treat each other well, sexually compatible, etc. We both saw a bright future together.

Situation: This past weekend, I was out of town on a mini vacation with my guy friends. Just a one night stay about an hour out of town. My GF was back home. I spent the day golfing, and my GF spent the day out with her friends. We spoke on the phone at 11pm that night, shared details about our fun days, etc. GF was a little tipsy and mentioned how horny she was (this is an important detail). We say our Goodnights and I love you's. I lay down in bed, and I (falsely) assume she does the same.

The following afternoon, I drive home and my GF is sullen and immediately wants to talk about a "traffic incident which happened" (her words). She confesses she was pulled over and issued a DUI the previous night. I'm confused, as I spoke with her on the phone the previous night and she was already home. So I ask if she got the DUI prior to us speaking. She says No. I then ask if she went out AFTER we hung up the phone (Midnight or later). She says Yes.

I feel a pit in my stomach, and I ask where she was going when she got the DUI. She says her female friends house. I don't trust that answer. I let some silence linger for a bit and I ask her where she REALLY was going. She remains silent for a minute, and confesses to heading over to a male friends house (who she has had sex with before we dated...kind of a short term FWB). But they were just going to watch a movie, she says lol. OK then, a movie....I ask her to show me the messages they exchanged. She says she deleted them. She starts to talk and try to weave her story about how she blocked him, etc...

I interrupt her and tell her not to bother. I tell her "We're done. Make arrangements to pack up your things and move out as soon as you can. Good luck with your life." I turn around and get in my car and leave as she's trying to explain herself. I didn't hear a thing. Just kept walking and drove off. Haven't spoken with her since. She has texted me a few times insisting it was just a movie and nothing would have ever happened with them.

Given the fact that...1) He is an ex-FWB 2) its 1am and she was horny 3) she lied about where she was going and 4) she deleted the messages...it seemed the biggest no brainer of all time what actually happened (or was going to happen). Yet here I am still conflicted and very, very sad...both for our relationship (which was almost perfect) and also for the kids who adore each other.

I am struggling to fight the urge to reach out to her simply to find out what the gently caress she could have possible been thinking. She risked our relationship, the roof over her head (and her kids'), her safety, her police record just to see this guy (who she describes as a scumbag, btw). Its just a mind bogglingly stupid decision and I am having trouble wrapping my head around how an otherwise normal woman and mother can make such a poor choice. She is essentially homeless now and now has a DUI on her record to boot. I am heartbroken that her kids are also now essentially homeless. I want to help her get back on her feet. But I also feel deeply betrayed.

But sometimes I think of the instant karma inflicted on her and can't help but smile. A bullet dodged, I suppose. But I am heartbroken.

Edit: Her children were with their biological dad that weekend. She did not leave the kids behind at home.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

You should walk-out on anyone who gets a DUI, the cheating thing is just a cherry on top.

Chairman Mao
Apr 24, 2004

The Chinese Communist Party is the core of leadership of the whole Chinese people. Without this core, the cause of socialism cannot be victorious.

ad090 posted:

AITA for getting upset that my sister’s fiancé pulled me aside and patted me down at their wedding?

Sister's not taking any sides because she'd suddenly start accidentally walking into a lot of doors if she did.

number 1 snake fan
Jul 16, 2018

Beachcomber posted:


For example, the very first time I went with Bruce I was witness to "the recon." This is a real thing, and what I am about to describe is not an isolated incident, no sirree. Humongously fat people will literally go scout the buffet. Now, I think we all do this to some extent at a buffet, in the "Hmm, what do they have to eat here?" glance-while-walking-to-the-table sense, but this is done with military precision, people. I've watched with my own eyes three people, all of whom were 300 lbs+, meet briefly and talk, then split up and go to the buffets, carefully eyeballing each selection, lips moving, fingers pointing, as if cataloging the unearthly delights that await them, then loving meeting back up in the same place to discuss what they saw and plan an attack. I'm serious. They were like 10 feet away.

This part, at least, is laughably fake and the OP of this shitstorm is a self-hating fat kid.
Yes, I'm six pages behind, gently caress it.

cumshitter
Sep 27, 2005

by Fluffdaddy
Groom: "Please remove any metallic items you're carrying. Keys, loose change."

*Junkie brother opens his jacket to reveal hundreds of heroin needles taped to his body*

"Holy poo poo!"

*Junkie brother plunges two needles into the Groom's neck, knocking him out instantly. He cartwheels through the reception expertly tossing needles into members of the wedding party.*

CannonFodder
Jan 26, 2001

Passion’s Wrench

Jack-Off Lantern posted:

I've inquired in our very own Ant Thread

Soon,we will know if Ants crave jizz.

Well on these forums I've seen someone gently caress an erlenmeyer flask (while wearing red pumps) so sure, feed some cum to ants.

hawowanlawow
Jul 27, 2009

I understand that the BIL wanted to make a scene and pat the guy down because he's a huge idiot doucher, but why are other family members backing him up?

I smell religious weirdoism, which also explains how the BIL became such a dick

Thumbtacks
Apr 3, 2013
HELP!! Did I break the law? (self.legaladvice)
submitted 11 months ago * by LurkingSideAcctM

quote:

Edited for location: Arizona

A few months ago, my family was traveling in a car. Myself, my wife, our at the time 17 yr old daughter, and our 6 & 7 year old children. An argument broke out and everyone was screaming at everyone else (except the kids). It never got physical. Escalation continues until I start screaming at the 17 year old to "Shut the gently caress up" because she is clearly out of line for cussing and screaming at her parents. This is when the wife (driving) pulls over and leaves the car with the children. I get in the driver seat and take off. I over-steered my U-turn and hit a curb, jumped the median and destroyed my rim. No pedestrians were around and there was no damage to any property other than my own. As I'm changing my tire, a patrol car happens by and inquires if I need help, what happened, etc. They interview the adults and then come back and arrest me for disorderly conduct. Although I'm not sure exactly to what they are referring.

So I go to court and even though I don't believe I've done anything wrong, they offer to dismiss the case (1st offence ever) if I take anger management classes. I accept as it seemed to be the fastest way through this whole thing. Problem is, during my last pretrial conference, before I've had the chance to apply for council, the judge starts asking my all kinds of questions like why I was arrested and tells me that he may not honor the agreement unless I can prove that I've "learned my lesson". But I didn't do anything criminal!

I know my wife will not admit to anyone else screaming because she fears herself or our daughter getting charged with something, and the way this has gone so far, I don't blame her as that was all it took for them to arrest me.


Please help! Should I throw out the plea and go to trial on principle? Am I truly just ignorant of being on the wrong side of the law?!?

from the comments:

quote:

I certainly can be an rear end in a top hat, anyone can, it's not difficult. I'd venture to say you've been an rear end in a top hat at times also. That doesn't make it a crime. And I'd love an example of a family, in tight quarters, that doesn't argue with each other. How can you take a fluke incident and assume that it's a person's modus operandi?

quote:

You think all families argue when it tight quarters with each other? You need to see a therapist, that’s not normal. You are acting very casually about the fact that your family exited the vehicle to obtain a safe position against you.

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AreWeDrunkYet posted:

Feels icky to defend someone who appears to be an actual predator based on his post history, but the people who hosted the roast told the OP there were no limits, asked him not to participate, then made rape jokes about him - that's pretty lovely behavior. He loses the moral high ground with his jokes in response but he was in a sucky situation and realistically should have left his partner for putting him in it.

Then again with him more or less admitting to being an actual rapist it's a fair presumption there's more to the story.

It’s one of those things where you can criticize behavior on all sides, but one of them is just so extremely beyond the pale that the rest of it drops out of view.

E: like, if I had a roommate situation where one of them was a fridge thief and the other had just killed a guy and stuffed the body in the hall closet, under normal circumstances you’d say that the guy stealing food from the fridge is a piece of human filth and it’s still true regardless, but he’s also not gonna be the one people talk about

christmas boots fucked around with this message at 23:17 on Aug 6, 2019

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Thumbtacks posted:

HELP!! Did I break the law? (self.legaladvice)
submitted 11 months ago * by LurkingSideAcctM


from the comments:

Folks like this make me very sad because they've so normalized dysfunctional relationships and screaming arguments. I had a lady at a party once ask me where me or my wife goes to stay when an argument gets too heated. They were very confused when we told them that we do not get into screaming object-throwing fights that get so severe one of us has to crash at a friend's place for a night or two. "But don't all couples fight like that???"

Pvt.Scott
Feb 16, 2007

What God wants, God gets, God help us all

Beachcomber posted:

My dad had a million dollar idea once a year and never did anything and then he always enjoyed complaining how it was his idea.

Thomas Edison hired a bunch of your dads and then paid them a pittance for their ideas. A real manly go-getter, that Edison.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

christmas boots posted:

It’s one of those things where you can criticize behavior on all sides, but one of them is just so extremely beyond the pale that the rest of it drops out of view.

E: like, if I had a roommate situation where one of them was a fridge thief and the other had just killed a guy and stuffed the body in the hall closet, under normal circumstances you’d say that the guy stealing food from the fridge is a piece of human filth and it’s still true regardless, but he’s also not gonna be the one people talk about

If we're taking the story at face value, the other people involved don't seem to be aware of the actual assault in his history. So to stretch the analogy, imagine that guy has a body stuffed in the closet that the roommate doesn't know about. The roommate eats his food from the fridge, he responds by eating something with sentimental value to the roommate. As far as anyone knows, the roommate was an rear end in a top hat without instigation but the retaliation makes everyone involved an rear end in a top hat.

Then when they find the body, yeah, the rest of it is laughably irrelevant.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Thumbtacks posted:

get in the driver seat and take off. I over-steered my U-turn and hit a curb, jumped the median and destroyed my rim.

But I didn't do anything criminal!

it is in fact illegal to drive your car over the median, hth, and "i yelled and screamed at my wife and got so mad that i drove my car off the road, becoming a hazard to myself and others" is p much exactly why the charge of Disorderly Conduct exists

Dazerbeams
Jul 8, 2009

What kind of deadly snake venom doesn't kill a child after several hours of exposure? I'm really curious.

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tactlessbastard
Feb 4, 2001

Godspeed, post
Fun Shoe

alphabettitouretti posted:

MIL’s negligence could have seriously harmed my child and I’m not sure how to treat her now


Just a little snake bite, nothing worth mentioning

Years ago, ne of my wife's teenage cousins showed up at the emergency room with her mom and the mom told the physician that cousin had been stung by something in her Grandma's yard and she was having a reaction. The doctor takes a look at her leg and it's yellow and swollen up past her knee. He looks around and finds two puncture marks on her foot and asks, are you sure you didn't get bit? Cousin starts to answer, but then Mom cuts her off and says, she got stung

Doctor points at the two marks and says, 'Twice?'

At this point cousin manages to get in that she did see a snake slithering away right after she felt the sting.

Obviously, she had gotten snake bit but when she went inside and said hey y'all I got snake bit, the Grandma barges in and says with full matriarchal authority that there are No snakes, not a goddamned one, on her property and everyone just kinda bought into the family line and poor cousin sat there suffering from a drat copperhead bite while everyone poo-pooed her complaints as malingering until finally her pants were about to burst from the swelling and they took her to the ER.

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