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Dr. Red Ranger posted:So, you guys have BigMarines now with Bigbolters and hover versions of the regular space marine vehicles... is there any reason at all for regular marines and their kit to be used at all? It seems kinda weird that GW would undermine their own iconic faction with Literally The Same Guys But Better In Every Way. Buy more stuff duh.
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Dr. Red Ranger posted:So, you guys have BigMarines now with Bigbolters and hover versions of the regular space marine vehicles... is there any reason for regular marines and their kit to be used at all? It seems kinda weird that GW would undermine their own iconic faction with Literally The Same Guys But Better In Every Way. Sure is weird how they continue to sell new versions of their best-selling models huh
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Aug 6, 2019 21:07
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Dr. Red Ranger posted:So, you guys have BigMarines now with Bigbolters and hover versions of the regular space marine vehicles... is there any reason at all for regular marines and their kit to be used at all? It seems kinda weird that GW would undermine their own iconic faction with Literally The Same Guys But Better In Every Way. Small marines still do well. They have more tactical flexibility by being able to take special weapons in squads and can hug terrain better since they're smaller. They're the same stat line minus the extra wound.
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Aug 6, 2019 21:07
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Just remember, every new primaris kit means plastic aspect warriors and Catachans that aren't from 1997 are further and further away. 
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Aug 6, 2019 21:15
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Zuul the Cat posted:I used the upgrade sprue, but also tried to just give mine more life in general. I made one squad crusade veterans. These look awesome. I like the more dynamic pose idea which I should be able to accomplish just due to my other intercessors being DI easy build and my veterans will be normal kit ones. How does the Smurf veteran insignia differ? Don't white helmets signify vets?
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Aug 6, 2019 21:17
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I know literally everything GW does is to make money, but since I haven't played since... 2005 it seemed a bit weird, like they were replacing the entire product line and concept. But I'm not very plugged in any more, I just check in every once in a while out of curiosity.
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Dr. Red Ranger posted:So, you guys have BigMarines now with Bigbolters and hover versions of the regular space marine vehicles... is there any reason for regular marines and their kit to be used at all? It seems kinda weird that GW would undermine their own iconic faction with Literally The Same Guys But Better In Every Way. Tactical squads get heavy and special weapons, so a 5 man heavy weapon squad can camp objectives cheaply and 5 man special weapon squads, while less effective, can be cheap threats towards objectives in the middle. Devastators can also stack heavy weapons and draw fire, though in most cases they're outclassed by hellblasters. There's also a new janky combo with them and successor tactics to drop pod a 4 heavy flamer devastator squad with the +3" range successor tactic.
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Aug 6, 2019 21:20
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OhDearGodNo posted:I think I have figured out the best thing to use for command points. In a similar vein, I tried finding tokens with the theme of faith for sisters of battle. Rosary beads roll away, tacky porcelain angels were too large, various "prayer" necklace pendants were too expensive (although I did particularly like the prayer hands or prayer scrolls). Then I found this  Decent sisters of battle token faith tokens?
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Aug 6, 2019 21:31
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You can Drop Pod *eight* heavy flamers. Two squads fit in a pod. 
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VolatileSky posted:In a similar vein, I tried finding tokens with the theme of faith for sisters of battle. Rosary beads roll away, tacky porcelain angels were too large, various "prayer" necklace pendants were too expensive (although I did particularly like the prayer hands or prayer scrolls). No.
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VolatileSky posted:In a similar vein, I tried finding tokens with the theme of faith for sisters of battle. Rosary beads roll away, tacky porcelain angels were too large, various "prayer" necklace pendants were too expensive (although I did particularly like the prayer hands or prayer scrolls). Where's all my soul sistas? Lemme hear ya'll flow, sistas Hey sista, go sista, soul sista, flow sista Hey sista, go sista, soul sista, go sista He met Marmalade down in old Moulin Rouge
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VolatileSky posted:In a similar vein, I tried finding tokens with the theme of faith for sisters of battle. Rosary beads roll away, tacky porcelain angels were too large, various "prayer" necklace pendants were too expensive (although I did particularly like the prayer hands or prayer scrolls). this is bad and you should feel bad
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Aug 6, 2019 21:49
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VolatileSky posted:In a similar vein, I tried finding tokens with the theme of faith for sisters of battle. Rosary beads roll away, tacky porcelain angels were too large, various "prayer" necklace pendants were too expensive (although I did particularly like the prayer hands or prayer scrolls). Use a stack of communion wafers and eat one every time you spend a point.
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Aug 6, 2019 21:53
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Craft store inventories are like 30% fleur de lis stamps, just use those on poker chips or something.
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VolatileSky posted:
Is your Cannoness Pam Greir?
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Dr. Red Ranger posted:I know literally everything GW does is to make money, but since I haven't played since... 2005 it seemed a bit weird, like they were replacing the entire product line and concept. But I'm not very plugged in any more, I just check in every once in a while out of curiosity. I only got into tabletop 40k a little over a year ago, even if I've been aware of the setting since Dawn of War 1, but 40k overall seems to be in a soft, slow reboot after learning their lesson from Age of Sigmar's initial reaction. There was a big story update with the launch of 8th/Dark Imperium and the galaxy is becoming ever more fractured, primaris marines have stats that feel more like the depictions of space marines in the fluff, and box sets like Kill Team: Rogue Trader and Blackstone Fortress are highlighting the weirder aspects of the setting present in early fluff that lost representation on the tabletop as the game shifted from quasi-RPG with mostly metal models to a pure wargame with mostly plastic models. I suspect in the long run that primaris marines will largely replace the standard space marines, but they still need to flesh out the primaris line quite a bit more and biggify (or create new) characters for all the chapters. They'll probably start slowly dropping the older marine kits from production during the process, starting with the least popular, but it's still years away from being a complete line. Even then I expect they'll maintain datasheets/rules for the old kits after they cease production. They'll just be stuck in a separate supplement or free pdf. They don't want to alienate the long-term fanbase and can justify it with the current direction of the setting making communication and travel ever more difficult. GW can just say old-style marine units or armies were lost in the warp for a few centuries, stuck in an area cut off from the imperium, or something similar. A decade from now primaris marines will just be space marines to new/younger players and they will be perplexed by the tiny power-squatting marines and treaded tanks that the older players use sometimes.
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Mef989 posted:These look awesome. I like the more dynamic pose idea which I should be able to accomplish just due to my other intercessors being DI easy build and my veterans will be normal kit ones. My ultramarines were 1st company, so they all had white trim on their shoulder pads. I think white helmets are for veterans. A whole squad like that would look pretty cool, I think.
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I’m planning my custom stalker bolter Intercessor squad where the bolt rifles are all done up with sniper scopes as veterans, because a) I gotta use those inverted Raven Guard decals on something and b) there’s no conceivable reason anyone would field stalker bolsters without using that veteran stratagem that turns them into snipers, but I haven’t actually painted them up yet.
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I'm glad they've brought back rules for making your own Successor Chapter, that's a fun inclusion. I hope they don't FAQ that +3" tactic to not apply to flamers since it might make bringing the Heavy Flamer on a Terminator Squad a decent pick.
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has anyone done an Apocalypse game at small scale yet for a faster 40k style game? 50 to 100 points per side? I'm trying to decide if I want to pic up Apocalypse or Warcry. My thought on Apocalypse is playing it the opposite of how it's intended could get me a game with my 40k army done in less than 3 hours. My last 40k game at 2k points per side took about 4 hours, and we had to rush near the end. This is mostly on my end, I'm a slow player.
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Chainclaw posted:has anyone done an Apocalypse game at small scale yet for a faster 40k style game? 50 to 100 points per side? I'm trying to decide if I want to pic up Apocalypse or Warcry. My thought on Apocalypse is playing it the opposite of how it's intended could get me a game with my 40k army done in less than 3 hours. My last 40k game at 2k points per side took about 4 hours, and we had to rush near the end. This is mostly on my end, I'm a slow player. Guerrilla Minis did one on their YouTube channel.
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Safety Factor posted:Just remember, every new primaris kit means plastic aspect warriors and Catachans that aren't from 1997 are further and further away. my kingdom for a plastic howling banshee release
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I'm going to have to find one of those apocalypse marines boxes on the cheap and make my own chapter aren't I  I'd just make them space wolves but primaris gunline marines just don't gel themtically for me yet.
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Chainclaw posted:has anyone done an Apocalypse game at small scale yet for a faster 40k style game? 50 to 100 points per side? I'm trying to decide if I want to pic up Apocalypse or Warcry. My thought on Apocalypse is playing it the opposite of how it's intended could get me a game with my 40k army done in less than 3 hours. My last 40k game at 2k points per side took about 4 hours, and we had to rush near the end. This is mostly on my end, I'm a slow player. It would work. I think we played an 8 player game with 1000 points per player (we got lazy and didn't even bother figuring out PL) and the whole thing was done in a few hours, with only a few folks having learned the system.
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I don't really mind the bigmarines but the Primaris MK. IV-ish helmet isn't as cool as the proper frowny face space marine helmet. The Vanguard antenna hats don't cut it either. I know the Primaris and standard marine heads are swappable but that's a loooooot of bits to grab.
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Gunder posted:Just realised how much money the poor Australians have to spend to get their GW models and other stuff. What a rip off. it's actually insane that i can buy a sealed box of custodes from a uk seller for ~$50 and the gw website in australia is asking for $98
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I just want to take a moment to salute all the yellow marines painters out there, having just tried my luck on a Lamenter.
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Strobe posted:
great vulkan's lizard-raven!
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I think I'm finally at the age where dad jokes have become appealing, I'm so sorry.
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Mef989 posted:Does anyone have any intercessors which they've painted to specifically be indominus crusade veterans? I'm about to build some Ultramarines Veterans and am looking for some inspiration. I got the MkIV Praetorian heads which I'll be putting on them as well as the upgrade sprue for should pads, but wondering what else I could do. My veteran intercessors got white helmets. Isn't that correct for Ultramarines? Edit: Strobe posted:You can Drop Pod *eight* heavy flamers. Two squads fit in a pod. Heavy flamers aren't available to Devastator squads, though? GET INTO DA CHOPPA fucked around with this message at 02:31 on Aug 7, 2019 |
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GET INTO DA CHOPPA posted:Heavy flamers aren't available to Devastator squads, though? correct
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That means you won't be able to drop pod in 8 heavy flamers. 8 combi flamers, sure.
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I recently found out about old school Rogue Trader Pisceans, aka Imperial Guard Fish People Is there anyone that makes something that work work as a substitution?
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GET INTO DA CHOPPA posted:That means you won't be able to drop pod in 8 heavy flamers. 8 combi flamers, sure. That's still pretty nasty. Would be a bit like the admech infiltrators dropping in and just dumping a fuckload of shots but a bit more random.
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GET INTO DA CHOPPA posted:Heavy flamers aren't available to Devastator squads, though? Blood Angels Devastators can. The ones that won't get this kind of bonus. I was so used to seeing Heavy Flamers on the heavy weapons list I didn't bother to check whether regular Space Marines could do it.Best you can do is a Sternguard Veteran squad with 8 Combi-Flamers and 2 Heavy Flamers. Which, to be entirely honest, is absolutely enough on its own.
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I wonder what joys Warhammer Community will bring us tomorrow. Maybe psyker powers? Stratagems? Relics? Special characters? The possibilities are endless!
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Narrative preview.
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:I wonder what joys Warhammer Community will bring us tomorrow. Im hoping for stratagems personally. I think at the very least some strats will get reworked and the first founding specific ones will be mostly in the supplements (kind of like how they did black legion)
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