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| Joe Biden, the Inappropriate Toucher |
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18 | 1.46% |
| Bernie Sanders, the Hand Flailer |
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665 | 54.11% |
| Elizabeth Warren, the Plan Maker |
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319 | 25.96% |
| Kamala Harris, the Cop Lord |
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26 | 2.12% |
| Cory Booker, the Super Hero Wannabe |
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5 | 0.41% |
| Julian Castro, the Twin |
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5 | 0.41% |
| Kirsten Gillibrand, the Franken Killer |
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5 | 0.41% |
| Pete Buttigieg, the Troop Sociopath |
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17 | 1.38% |
| Robert Francis O'Rourke, the Fake Latino |
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3 | 0.24% |
| Jay Inslee, the Climate Alarmist |
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8 | 0.65% |
| Marianne Williamson, the Crystal Queen |
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86 | 7.00% |
| Tulsi Gabbard, the Muslim Hater |
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23 | 1.87% |
| Andrew Yang, the $1000 Fool |
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32 | 2.60% |
| Eric Swalwell, the Insurance Wife Guy |
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2 | 0.16% |
| Amy Klobuchar, the Comb Enthusiast |
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1 | 0.08% |
| Bill de Blasio, the NYPD Most Hated |
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4 | 0.33% |
| Tim Ryan, the Dope Face |
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3 | 0.24% |
| John Hickenlooper, the Also Ran |
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7 | 0.57% |
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I suspect the real reason liberals melt down when Bernie goes and talks to voters without going through the approved corporate media outlets of the liberal intelligentsia, is that their plan to beat him is to ally with Republicans to propagandize America over and over that Sanders is a crazy dangerous radical, and therefore they become apoplectic when they can't control the conversations he's having and voters find out what he really believes and is proposing and they like it.
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Groovelord Neato posted:the sanders ep got as many views in less than a day than rogan's most popular episodes get in a month. Now all those viewers who loved Bernie are going to keep watching and become alt-right because Bernie and Alex Jones are the same!
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Aug 7, 2019 20:05
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Groovelord Neato posted:the sanders ep got as many views in less than a day than rogan's most popular episodes get in a month. No you see, Bernie may have spent an hour forcefully advocating for leftist ideas for an audience of literally over 2.2 million people, but Rogan had a chud as a guest once and hence this is actually bad.
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Aug 7, 2019 20:06
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VitalSigns posted:Did Bernie even try telepathically beaming a stump speech into their heads, which could have reached them just as easily without involving Joe Rogan. Careful, I ate a 3 day probe for that exact comment earlier this week. Apparently in-jokes are probable. https://twitter.com/rafaelshimunov/status/1159135277673324545 If anything this will push Joe and his kind toward the left because they see there is money to be made in appealing to these audiences.
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Aug 7, 2019 20:12
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Hmm yes. Let the market decide. I cant possibly see how we could lose such stalwart allies.
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Aug 7, 2019 20:29
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VitalSigns posted:I suspect the real reason liberals melt down when Bernie goes and talks to voters without going through the approved corporate media outlets of the liberal intelligentsia, is that their plan to beat him is to ally with Republicans to propagandize America over and over that Sanders is a crazy dangerous radical, and therefore they become apoplectic when they can't control the conversations he's having and voters find out what he really believes and is proposing and they like it. Your definition of liberal confuses the discussion because it doesn't match what people who identify themselves as liberal support https://www.cbsnews.com/news/analysis-how-liberal-are-democratic-voters/
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Aug 7, 2019 20:30
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Discendo Vox posted:You're attacking something you haven't read for its imaginary faults; ordering the thread to read a full book so that you don't have to engage with the content of a text that was literally presented to you. Yeah for real Majorian. You still haven’t learned to read the OP after being told how many times in this sub forum? Smh
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Aug 7, 2019 20:34
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:Careful, I ate a 3 day probe for that exact comment earlier this week. Apparently in-jokes are probable. Or it'll push some Bernie Bros to watch more Joe Rogan... and then some Jordan Petersen... and then some Sargon of Akad... Bernie should do a video with Hbomberguy
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Aug 7, 2019 20:42
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Chilichimp posted:Or it'll push some Bernie Bros to watch more Joe Rogan... and then some Jordan Petersen... and then some Sargon of Akad... I knew you were dumb as gently caress but this has just gotta be bad faith (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Aug 7, 2019 20:49
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Why would someone start watching youtubers who have a completely incompatible worldview and ideology Just because you liberal dipshits are open to fascism doesn't mean everyone is (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Aug 7, 2019 20:51
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Chilichimp posted:Or it'll push some Bernie Bros  Chilichimp posted:to watch more Joe Rogan... and then some Jordan Petersen... and then some Sargon of Akad... You mean exactly what the youtube algorithm does no matter what you watch? The same people you seem to be incredibly familiar with and have likely watched some of their videos? Should I write you off completely as well? Heck Yes! Loam! fucked around with this message at 20:57 on Aug 7, 2019 |
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Aug 7, 2019 20:52
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The secret to defeating the right is to cede every possible venue to them.
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Aug 7, 2019 20:52
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A good, moral candidate should be kept in a locked vault at an unspecified location, and should never be revealed until after the election.
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Aug 7, 2019 20:55
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Chilichimp posted:Or it'll push some Bernie Bros to watch more Joe Rogan... and then some Jordan Petersen... and then some Sargon of Akad... This is the dumbest thing I've seen in a while, and let me tell you all why. See, there seems to exist this nonsense unspoken assumption in certain liberal circles that media outlets aren't good or bad because of what's being said on them but they're somehow just intrinsically is good or bad. We see here an unironic claim resting on the idea that it apparently literally doesn't matter what Bernie says on the Joe Rogan show, because the show somehow is inherently corrupting and will lead people down a slippery slope to chudhood as if it were the loving One Ring or something. Now, normally you'd think that if Bernie spends an hour promoting socialism it would, assuming that he does a good job, sway people towards his point of view and Bernie would be the person that the viewer gets interested in, but no, apparently the siren song of the media outlet itself traps the listener and turns them into a raging Joe Rogan fanatic first and foremost that will uncritically believe anything they find on the channel. Or at least I think this is the assumption here, because I can't find anything else that could possibly lead to Chilichimp's conclusion. Needles to say, this is just absurd. I guess it's some weird extension of team politics where some media outlets are just on the good guy side and hence all the others must be evil and corrupting. steinrokkan posted:A good, moral candidate should be kept in a locked vault at an unspecified location, and should never be revealed until after the election. Ah, the extremely successful Hillary/Biden strategy. Cerebral Bore fucked around with this message at 21:04 on Aug 7, 2019 |
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Aug 7, 2019 20:58
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Did Joe Rogan make Jordan Peterson look good. I only saw the clips on Sam Seder's show but JP looked like a befuddled moron. Not saying Rogan is good, and I didn't watch the entire show so maybe Peterson looked good except for those clips, but those clips were damning and it's hard to imagine anyone coming away with a good impression of him after those.
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Aug 7, 2019 20:58
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VitalSigns posted:I suspect the real reason liberals melt down when Bernie goes and talks to voters without going through the approved corporate media outlets of the liberal intelligentsia, is that their plan to beat him is to ally with Republicans to propagandize America over and over that Sanders is a crazy dangerous radical, and therefore they become apoplectic when they can't control the conversations he's having and voters find out what he really believes and is proposing and they like it. I think you're attributing a thought process where there really is not one. It's the same level of stupid as a CHUD, just using a different vocabulary. Chilichimp posted:Or it'll push some Bernie Bros to watch more Joe Rogan... and then some Jordan Petersen... and then some Sargon of Akad... Clinton should also write off the blue wall as safe and buy more ads in California to secure those 55 electoral votes.
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Aug 7, 2019 20:58
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Watch Bernie on Joe Rogan? Get recommended JP and Ben Shaprio. Watch Hbomberguy and Chapo dunk on JP and Ben Shapiro? get recommended Destiny JP and Ben Shapiro. I mean, there was like a solid quarter of CRTV ads on The Majority Report that only ended because it was time for a few months of Prager U ads.
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Aug 7, 2019 20:59
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Discendo Vox posted:You're attacking something you haven't read for its imaginary faults; That's not actually what I'm doing. I am questioning the validity of praising Warren's plan for being "complex" when complex doesn't necessarily mean "better." quote:ordering the thread to read a full book so that you don't have to engage with the content of a text that was literally presented to you. Nor am I ordering anybody to do anything. You're reading some really weird tones into the pretty mild things I've posted.
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Aug 7, 2019 20:59
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steinrokkan posted:A good, moral candidate should be kept in a locked vault at an unspecified location, and should never be revealed until after the election. Good candidates are like vodka you see 
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Aug 7, 2019 21:00
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:Should I write you off completely as well? Given who you're responding to, I suggest following your instincts
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Aug 7, 2019 21:01
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Chilichimp posted:Or it'll push some Bernie Bros to watch more Joe Rogan... and then some Jordan Petersen... and then some Sargon of Akad... genuinely thought this was a calibanibal post
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Aug 7, 2019 21:01
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Chilichimp posted:Or it'll push some Bernie Bros to watch more Joe Rogan... and then some Jordan Petersen... and then some Sargon of Akad... That seems extremely unlikely.
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Aug 7, 2019 21:02
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VitalSigns posted:Did Joe Rogan make Jordan Peterson look good. as awful as rogan can be (letting crowder repeat lies about transitioning) he's at least better than rubin where he'll push back sometimes.
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Aug 7, 2019 21:03
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lol, Rogan gave him the softballest, most amicable interview Bernie's ever had, and you all are freaking out.
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Aug 7, 2019 21:04
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Bernie should stick to CNN where they ask him meaningful questions like why he wants to be the next Stalin.
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Also hbomberguy has been stalling for a year and a half to talk about Night In the Woods into a microphone and then set it to some b-roll of the videogame interspersed with I'm guessing general americana stock footage. A Sanders/hbomb video wouldn't come out until 2027 at the earliest and if you were a real hbomberguy stan you would know this and accept it
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Aug 7, 2019 21:07
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steinrokkan posted:lol, Rogan gave him the softballest, most amicable interview Bernie's ever had, and you all are freaking out. Who exactly is freaking out
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Majorian posted:That's not actually what I'm doing. I am questioning the validity of praising Warren's plan for being "complex" when complex doesn't necessarily mean "better." nah you literally refused to read like, all of 500 words of a plan but have found time to continuously post about what you imagine it might be as if it's some complete unknown where the only variable is "more complex" than bernie's none of you have posted even a single criticism, just that you're mad that the plan - vastly far to the left than anything we've ever done in terms of rural internet infrastructure - exists because it removes your ability to declare bernie automatically better
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Aug 7, 2019 21:07
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Majorian posted:That's not actually what I'm doing. I am questioning the validity of praising Warren's plan for being "complex" when complex doesn't necessarily mean "better." The person you responded to didn't praise the plan for being complex, he pushed back on the idea that it was less detailed than Sanders' plan. Tilting at windmills etc etc.
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Aug 7, 2019 21:07
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Willie Tomg posted:Also hbomberguy has been stalling for a year and a half to talk about Night In the Woods into a microphone and then set it to some b-roll of the videogame interspersed with I'm guessing general americana stock footage. A Sanders/hbomb video wouldn't come out until 2027 at the earliest and if you were a real hbomberguy stan you would know this and accept it Hbomberguy 2020: Defend The Prequels You Coward
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Aug 7, 2019 21:08
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eke out posted:nah you literally refused to read like, all of 500 words of a plan but have found time to continuously post about what you imagine it might be as if it's some complete unknown where the only variable is "more complex" than bernie's Ah here's your problem: government infrastructure isn't "left" policy You libs always portray yourself as the smartest guys in the room but constantly show you're just incredibly dumb (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Aug 7, 2019 21:12
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steinrokkan posted:lol, Rogan gave him the softballest, most amicable interview Bernie's ever had, and you all are freaking out. seriously Rogan sucks but his entire interview style is just going 'so (insert thing the guest has already said a bunch)? Wild!' and letting the guest ramble on and on, why would someone like Sanders not exploit such a dingus with a huge audience of people who, statistically, are exactly in the meaty part of the 'would be open to your ideas, but are unmotivated to vote' curve?
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eke out posted:nah you literally refused to read like, all of 500 words of a plan but have found time to continuously post about what you imagine it might be as if it's some complete unknown where the only variable is "more complex" than bernie's I assure you, I'm still quite able to declare Bernie automatically better, don't worry.
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Aug 7, 2019 21:15
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eke out posted:nah you literally refused to read like, all of 500 words of a plan but have found time to continuously post about what you imagine it might be as if it's some complete unknown where the only variable is "more complex" than bernie's I've posted four times on the topic over the span of three hours. That's hardly "continuously." I didn't "refuse" to read anything; I'm at work, so I haven't had the chance to look at it yet. My only point has been that "complexity" in a plan isn't necessarily a good thing; you're blowing my posts out of proportion. No one's "mad" at this plan; what a weird thing to project.
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sexpig by night posted:seriously Rogan sucks but his entire interview style is just going 'so (insert thing the guest has already said a bunch)? Wild!' and letting the guest ramble on and on, why would someone like Sanders not exploit such a dingus with a huge audience of people who, statistically, are exactly in the meaty part of the 'would be open to your ideas, but are unmotivated to vote' curve? Seriously. He got an hour to basically make his case free of the usual bullshit, he reached millions, many of which he wouldn't have otherwise, everything so far indicates that his message is resonating and to top it all off he got the whole drat thing for free. Objectively speaking it was a loving coup of Bernie's part, which is why the usual suspects are once again reduced to casting aspersions on where he appeared instead of any actually substantial criticism.
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Aug 7, 2019 21:25
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Oh Snapple! posted:The secret to defeating the right is to cede every possible venue to them. 
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VitalSigns posted:Did Joe Rogan make Jordan Peterson look good. He's made 6 appearances.
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Phi230 posted:Ah here's your problem: government infrastructure isn't "left" policy Wait wait wait.... Government infrastructure is exactly what left policy is. Government owned, operated, maintained infrastructure is a tenet of any progressive left or even socialist movement inherently. In this specific case community owned and operated not for profit ISP sounds pretty good compared to privately owned but publicly funded systems we have now. I'm honestly can't tell if i am being trolled here or not.
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Aug 7, 2019 21:27
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Like Yang's entire initial bounce was from appearing on Joe Rogan, if Bernie can snag those voters with an appearance then he'd be dumb not to There are definite lines though. Tucker/O'Reilly/Rush are fash propagandists. Appearing on their platforms (like Nagel did recently, incidentally to trash the DSA) isn't going to get you an audience that you want and your message can get mangled into right-wing propaganda itself (like Tucker's anti-Amazon rant earlier in the year). Its also inaccurate to say that socialist policies will automatically drive out fash ones. "Socialist" policies for whites only are really well-received, and expect that to be the pivot for some fash as capitalism continues to fall apart... which is why getting leftist ideas adulterated with fash ones (i.e. immigrants are bringing down worker wages) is always a danger.
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:Wait wait wait.... Government infrastructure isn't inherently leftist policy. Hitler built the Autobahn, after all.
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