UKMT August 2019 - we (UK) should simply invade Ireland peacefully

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bessantj: Jul 27, 2004

thespaceinvader posted:

Gammon?

(In all seriousness, maybe water, but I think that's about it)

yeah, i couldn't think of anything and did wonder how easily we could be self-sufficient in anything, could we build some power stations and become self sufficient in that regard? Probably though it would be expensive and take a long while.

Guavanaut posted:

Denial.

I'm not sure what the importance of self-sufficiency even is anymore. It has its place in African socialism and anarcho-syndicalism, but Britain is not close to either of those states of existence.

Brexit is closer to the pseudo-autarky of fascist-business alliances.

Yeah I'm not sure self-sufficiency is that important but that all seemed obsessed with it. A few of the people I spoke to were a bit on the older side and i think were talking about an imaginary time in the Victorian era and WWII.

EDIT: 59 ten from the sex number.

bessantj fucked around with this message at 13:51 on Aug 8, 2019

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Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Forums slow.

No es bueno.

Do we need to sacrifice a poster to Lowtax?

# ? Aug 8, 2019 13:47

Tarnop: Nov 25, 2013; Pull me out

Barry Foster posted:

Forums slow.

No es bueno.

Do we need to sacrifice a poster to Lowtax?

Re-indexing for search according to the Awful app thread

# ? Aug 8, 2019 13:55

Ratjaculation: Aug 3, 2007

thespaceinvader posted:

Gammon?

(In all seriousness, maybe water, but I think that's about it)

water is likely the only one, I agree.

Once you start intensifying agriculture more (due to decreased imports) and removing the EU-funded environmental incentives (such as field buffers/margins/etc) then you essentially start pumping your unsustainable inputs into the soil, which then get washed into catchments above reservoirs and create algal blooms, making the water toxic.

Such equipment and materials to purify such water would likely need to be imported lol

# ? Aug 8, 2019 14:05

Noxville: Dec 7, 2003

Tarnop posted:

Re-indexing for search according to the Awful app thread

Who the gently caress ever searches the forums

# ? Aug 8, 2019 14:07

Rarity: Oct 21, 2010; ~*4 LIFE*~

Noxville posted:

Who the gently caress ever searches the forums

I searched it for your good posts.

I couldn't find any.

# ? Aug 8, 2019 14:09

OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

Self sufficiency might be a good idea in the coming few decades but I mean I'd prefer that not consist of bricking up the chunnel and invading ireland for farmland.

# ? Aug 8, 2019 14:11

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

bessantj posted:

Yeah I'm not sure self-sufficiency is that important but that all seemed obsessed with it. A few of the people I spoke to were a bit on the older side and i think were talking about an imaginary time in the Victorian era and WWII.

I'm not sure we have been since some time before the Enclosure Acts. And even then that was self sufficiency at the local level and once you factor in furnishing XIX hommes et al and the Hanseatic League and all that the subnations as a whole weren't fully self sufficient.

mediadave posted:

Probably not, but I'm dubious about the direction of that argument as, well, we should be. (or, if not self suffient, we should be a producing nation)

Looking at the supporting and opposing philosophies for self-sufficiency, all I can say is that christ there's a bag of smashed assholes on both sides but also a couple of good philosophies for both (which will probably be ignored in the manner of lexit).

OwlFancier posted:

Self sufficiency might be a good idea in the coming few decades but I mean I'd prefer that not consist of bricking up the chunnel and invading ireland for farmland.

Yeah, municipal/local community self sufficiency might be a good thing, but the non-insane forms of that (consult above list) usually concede that things like infrastructure have to depend on some sort of wider mutual cooperation pact or state even if the communities can feed themselves.

# ? Aug 8, 2019 14:16

Barry Foster: Dec 24, 2007; What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Tarnop posted:

Re-indexing for search according to the Awful app thread

Unacceptable. I'm a self-sufficient poster and am quite capable of reading my own posts, I don't need to search for anyone else's.

Looks like we're back though, so some lucky Incorrect poster's been spared the pyre

Rarity posted:

I searched it for your good posts.

I couldn't find any.

oh poo poo

# ? Aug 8, 2019 14:17

Junior G-man: Sep 15, 2004; Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma

IPCC confirms global megadeath is incoming and, I'm quite sure, the West will do nothing to prevent it but shoot brown people at the border.

quote:

Climate crisis reducing land�s ability to sustain humanity, says IPCC

UN report finds ecosystems never before under such threat and restoration is urgent

How climate�s impact on land threatens civilisation � and how to fix it

Global heating is increasing droughts, soil erosion and wildfires while diminishing crop yields in the tropics and thawing permafrost near the poles, says the report by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.

Further heating will lead to unprecedented climate conditions at lower latitudes, with potential growth in hunger, migration and conflict and increased damage to the great northern forests.

The report, approved by the world�s governments, makes clear that humanity faces a stark choice between a vicious or virtuous circle. Continued destruction of forests and huge emissions from cattle and other intensive farming practices will intensify the climate crisis, making the impacts on land still worse.

However, action now to allow soils and forests to regenerate and store carbon, and to cut meat consumption by people and food waste, could play a big role in tackling the climate crisis, the report says.

Such moves would also improve human health, reduce poverty and tackle the huge losses of wildlife across the globe, the IPCC says.

�This is a perfect storm,� said Dave Reay, a professor at the University of Edinburgh who was an expert reviewer for the IPCC report. �Limited land, an expanding human population, and all wrapped in a suffocating blanket of climate emergency. Earth has never felt smaller, its natural ecosystems never under such direct threat.�

Piers Forster, a professor at the University of Leeds, said: �This important report shows we need to substantially change the way we use our land to limit temperature change below 1.5C. In a nutshell we need less pasture [for livestock] and more trees.� The land-use advice was contained in an IPCC report in October.

Prof Jim Skea, from the IPPC, said the land was already struggling and climate change was adding to its burdens. Almost three-quarters of ice-free land was now directly affected by human activity, the report says.

Poor land use is also behind almost a quarter of the planet�s greenhouse gas emissions � the destruction of forests, huge cattle herds and overuse of chemical fertilisers being key factors.

Emissions relating to fertilisers have risen ninefold since the early 1960s. Rising temperatures are causing deserts to spread, particularly in Asia and Africa, and the Americas and Mediterranean are at risk, the report says.

One of the most stark conclusions in the IPCC report is that soil, upon which humanity is entirely dependent, is being lost more than 100 times faster than it is being formed in ploughed areas; and lost 10 to 20 times faster even on fields that are not tilled.

The report recommends strong action from governments and business, including ending deforestation and enabling new forests to grow, reforming farming subsidies, supporting small farmers and breeding more resilient crops. Many of those solutions, however, would take decades to have an impact, the IPCC says.

Consumers in rich nations could act immediately by reducing their consumption of intensively produced meat and dairy foods � products that have a huge environmental impact.

�There is much more we could do in that space that we are not doing, partly because it is difficult,� said Pete Smith, a professor at the University of Aberdeen and a senior IPCC author. �You wouldn�t want to tell people what to eat, that would go down badly. But you could incentivise.�

The IPCC report suggests �factoring environmental costs into food�. Previous studies have suggested meat taxes, or subsidised fruit and vegetables. Meat production ties up most farmland and cutting consumption could release millions of square kilometres for forestry or bioenergy crops, the report says, as could cutting food waste.

Caterina Brandmayr, of the Green Alliance thinktank, said: �The key message from the IPCC is urgency: we need to act now to plant new forests, restore our ecosystems, and, yes, to eat less meat.�

David Viner, a professor at the University of East Anglia and a senior IPCC author, said: �Land is a vital resource and we have to look after it if we are going to have a sustainable future.�

Bloody lefty loonies telling us not to eat hamburger, bet they're all cows.

# ? Aug 8, 2019 14:18

Junior G-man: Sep 15, 2004; Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma

And now we can't even post about it properly anymore.

# ? Aug 8, 2019 14:19

marktheando: Nov 4, 2006

Brexiteers probably just like autarky because the nazis did

# ? Aug 8, 2019 14:30

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

The nazis pretended to like autarky but in reality expansionist war machines in league with business elites were not autarkic.

Which is funny, because that's the exact sort of 'autarky' we'll be getting from brexiteers.

# ? Aug 8, 2019 14:36

Tarnop: Nov 25, 2013; Pull me out

If we expand our empire to include every country we depend upon

# ? Aug 8, 2019 14:40

Junior G-man: Sep 15, 2004; Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma

Tarnop posted:

If we expand our empire to include every country we depend upon

This is why you have to stop Brexit. If Europe stays united we get 5 extra armies per turn.

# ? Aug 8, 2019 14:42

AceOfFlames: Oct 9, 2012

Junior G-man posted:

And now we can't even post about it properly anymore.

Good forum performance uses valuable electricity that could be used for more important things, like Bitcoin mining.

# ? Aug 8, 2019 14:46

OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

My posts have far more intrinsic value than bitcoins. Really you should put the world on my posting standard.

# ? Aug 8, 2019 14:50

Junior G-man: Sep 15, 2004; Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma

I'm the poster of last resort.

# ? Aug 8, 2019 14:51

Jedit: Dec 10, 2011; Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

OwlFancier posted:

My posts have far more intrinsic value than bitcoins. Really you should put the world on my posting standard.

We already had one global economic crisis.

# ? Aug 8, 2019 14:55

AceClown: Sep 11, 2005

OwlFancier posted:

My posts have far more intrinsic value than bitcoins. Really you should put the world on my posting standard.

I will gladly pay you three OwlFancier posts tomorrow, for a hamburger today.

# ? Aug 8, 2019 14:57

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IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.

Junior G-man posted:

This is why you have to stop Brexit. If Europe stays united we get 5 extra armies per turn.

From that perspective I feel like if you are going to invade Ireland you should do it before Brexit, imo. Wait - is that why Boris decided to fire half the upper levels of service ASAP? My god, it all makes sense.

Also I think UK is self-sufficient in tunips and lamb, for whatever it's worth.

# ? Aug 8, 2019 14:59

Junior G-man: Sep 15, 2004; Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma

AceClown posted:

I will gladly pay you three OwlFancier posts tomorrow, for a hamburger today.

Fiat posting will be the end of a sound economy, you know this.

# ? Aug 8, 2019 14:59

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

Junior G-man posted:

a sound economy

Hiding rods of gold in my urethra.

# ? Aug 8, 2019 15:00

OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

Yes I can cause hyperinflation by having an Extremely Normal One but that's the point, death 2 the global financial system, posting is praxis.

# ? Aug 8, 2019 15:01

Grey Hunter: Oct 17, 2007; Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets

OwlFancier posted:

Yes I can cause hyperinflation by having an Extremely Normal One but that's the point, death 2 the global financial system, posting is praxis.

Then someone breaks both your hands and the economy crashes....

# ? Aug 8, 2019 15:05

Junior G-man: Sep 15, 2004; Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma

Grey Hunter posted:

Then someone breaks both your hands and the economy crashes....

I have an unlimited OwlFancier post generator AI, you can swap your bad posts with Owlfanciers at steep discounts if it comes to it.

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OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

I've definitely posted enough to make the botnik thing work.

# ? Aug 8, 2019 15:10

happyhippy: Feb 21, 2005; Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup; Pillbug

Private Speech posted:

Also I think UK is self-sufficient in tunips and lamb, for whatever it's worth.

And rhubarb.

happyhippy fucked around with this message at 15:16 on Aug 8, 2019

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EAT SHIT

Private Speech posted:

From that perspective I feel like if you are going to invade Ireland you should do it before Brexit, imo. Wait - is that why Boris decided to fire half the upper levels of service ASAP? My god, it all makes sense.

Also I think UK is self-sufficient in tunips and lamb, for whatever it's worth.

until the pound crashes and the rest of the world buys up all our incredibly cheap turnips

you can't export our rocks though! The shipping is prohibitively expensive! *gnaws local stone wall*

# ? Aug 8, 2019 15:12

forkboy84: Jun 13, 2012; Corgis love bread. And Puro

I have no where else to put this so hey

https://twitter.com/maxgAIER/status/1159280373265772547?s=20

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OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

I would be quite surprised if lake district slate is not exported.

# ? Aug 8, 2019 15:14

baka kaba: Jul 19, 2003; PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

Hey the market is rational after all! not sure about the invisible hand though

the comments are great
"what makes you think I'm a right-libertarian"

# ? Aug 8, 2019 15:16

OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

Libertarians are only interested in invisible handjobs.

# ? Aug 8, 2019 15:17

Junior G-man: Sep 15, 2004; Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma

Well there was that time when Barnum & Bailey (or Ripley's?) almost bought Stonehenge and wanted to ship it to the US to go on tour, so the Lake District would be in good company.

# ? Aug 8, 2019 15:18

baka kaba: Jul 19, 2003; PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

OwlFancier posted:

I would be quite surprised if lake district slate is not exported.

Ooooh look at mr fancy pants here with his delicate rock wafers!

After brexit there'll be none of that! We'll be eating right at the quarry wall like we did in the war!!!

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OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

There's a whole valley full of rubble near honnister you can have.

# ? Aug 8, 2019 15:22

forkboy84: Jun 13, 2012; Corgis love bread. And Puro

baka kaba posted:

Hey the market is rational after all! not sure about the invisible hand though

the comments are great
"what makes you think I'm a right-libertarian"

One woman says in the comments "libertarianism is astrology for boys" and just wow, this is the perfect summary of right-libertarianism.

Also at least half the replies are along the lines of "libertarians are really obsessed with lowering the age of consent" which he really doesn't like.

# ? Aug 8, 2019 15:22

Jedit: Dec 10, 2011; Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

baka kaba posted:

Ooooh look at mr fancy pants here with his delicate rock wafers!

After brexit there'll be none of that! We'll be eating right at the quarry wall like we did in the war!!!

Certain people will be at the wall after Brexit, but they won't have time to eat.

# ? Aug 8, 2019 15:23

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

forkboy84 posted:

I have no where else to put this so hey

https://twitter.com/maxgAIER/status/1159280373265772547?s=20

https://twitter.com/LuciusVenator/status/1159433356444143617

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forkboy84 posted:

One woman says in the comments "libertarianism is astrology for boys" and just wow, this is the perfect summary of right-libertarianism.

Also at least half the replies are along the lines of "libertarians are really obsessed with lowering the age of consent" which he really doesn't like.

# ? Aug 8, 2019 15:28

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