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Trying to win affluent, suburban Republicans away from Trump: good, even if you throw blue-collar voters under the bus. Trying to win alienated, credulous young men away from the far-right: bad, they will infect your movement with bigotry.
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MeatwadIsGod posted:This is the mindset that brought you "basket of deplorables." The Rogan interview has only been up for like a day and a half and already has more than 4 million views. These people think every JRE listener is a Trump voter because they literally can't have a worldview that factors in the 40% of America that doesn't vote. So to them not openly courting "moderates" means you're going after the MAGA vote. will not matter because they can't vote in the primary (because they will forget to register)
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Aug 8, 2019 14:54
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i am the bird posted:It's actually Jeff Bezos yeah my thought is that amazon paid for someone to claim to be a worker and write that piece
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Aug 8, 2019 14:59
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it's not winning over "undecided" voters - a number of the comments were from people who never voted/weren't going to vote until they saw bernie. one guy said he was going to start volunteering.
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Aug 8, 2019 15:07
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Serf posted:yeah my thought is that amazon paid for someone to claim to be a worker and write that piece I absolutely know people just like the guy in the article. Its tempting to believe its an astroturfed fake but the far more horrific reality is thag its equally likely they just picked some credulous old man who never grew out of being a teacher's pet and told him to write an article.
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Aug 8, 2019 15:09
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AnEdgelord posted:I absolutely know people just like the guy in the article. Its tempting to believe its an astroturfed fake but the far more horrific reality is thag its equally likely they just picked some credulous old man who never grew out of being a teacher's pet and told him to write an article. i mean the two options are that its a paid fake or that someone is a pathetic enough human being to write it. either one is equally possible, i'm just going with the one that makes the most sense to me, given who we're talking about
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Aug 8, 2019 15:43
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people will say and argue for the stupidest poo poo when i worked at a grocery store, the last year i was in the deli. one day they handed out these mesh gloves for safety purposes, and i was apparently the only one to read the insert in the package that said "DO NOT USE WITH ROTATING OR SERRATED BLADES" (deli slicers anyone? bread knives?). the assistant store manager absolutely loved to give me poo poo, and one time he was getting on my case about those dumb gloves and someone who worked as the accountant (mid-50s) just dug into me and was like "WEAR THE GLOVE, IF THE STORE RATING GOES DOWN ALL OF OUR BONUSES WILL BE AFFECTED" and it was so profoundly loving stupid i couldn't come up with anything on the fly. if you were an hourly employee, your bonus was tied to COMPANY profits; if you were salaried, your bonus was tied to STORE performance.
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Aug 8, 2019 15:50
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No one listens to JRE unless they already listen to JRE. There is no one in this world who can sit through the Joe Rogan Experience that isn't already exposed to it. It is trash.
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Aug 8, 2019 16:00
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Awesome Animals posted:No one listens to JRE unless they already listen to JRE. There is no one in this world who can sit through the Joe Rogan Experience that isn't already exposed to it. It is trash. counterpoint: this is the only time i've ever listened to jre, other than the occasional clip that gets posted to twitter the youtube comments are incredible, too. lots of super dummies are now like "wait this bernie guy sounds good??"
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Aug 8, 2019 16:04
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Serf posted:i mean the two options are that its a paid fake or that someone is a pathetic enough human being to write it. either one is equally possible, i'm just going with the one that makes the most sense to me, given who we're talking about AnEdgelord posted:I absolutely know people just like the guy in the article. Its tempting to believe its an astroturfed fake but the far more horrific reality is thag its equally likely they just picked some credulous old man who never grew out of being a teacher's pet and told him to write an article. the article got a lot of signal boosts, like this loving abomination: http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/07/we-should-thank-amazon-for-letting-us-have-jobs.html. amazon's pr department was absolutely involved
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Aug 8, 2019 16:11
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Aug 8, 2019 16:17
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Judging by comments on his recent podcast appearances, Pod Save America’s audience seems to be far more innately hostile to Bernie than Joe Rogan’s.
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Aug 8, 2019 16:19
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FuriousGeorge posted:Judging by comments on his recent podcast appearances, Pod Save America’s audience seems to be far more innately hostile to Bernie than Joe Rogan’s. sanders threatens their privilege and entire worldview. there is no place from them in the world where they aren’t either opposed to republicans in power or sycophantic to moderate democrats who can’t effectively wield their power
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Aug 8, 2019 16:24
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FuriousGeorge posted:Judging by comments on his recent podcast appearances, Pod Save America’s audience seems to be far more innately hostile to Bernie than Joe Rogan’s. i'd never listened to the pod and brendan and virgil's description of their live performance made me wonder how they have any fans.
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Aug 8, 2019 16:26
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There is a significant fraction of the population who want to be told pleasing lies, and a smaller but still significant fraction whose interests are aligned with candidates who have a "nuanced position" on critical issues like healthcare, wages, and law enforcement.
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Aug 8, 2019 16:33
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FuriousGeorge posted:Judging by comments on his recent podcast appearances, Pod Save America’s audience seems to be far more innately hostile to Bernie than Joe Rogan’s. The PSA audience is basically upper middle class professionals who fetishize policy wonks. Bernie threatens not only their income but their entire worldview. That's why PSA was stanning for Beto first and Warren now. Those candidates conform the most to that audience's ideal politician. The PSA hosts were in the Comms dept. in the Obama and Clinton admins, and you get a sense of why they're so afraid of politics and so in love with policy - their political instincts are terrible. One of them coined the "if you like your insurance, you can keep it" line and another told Warren to get a DNA test to prove she's a native American.
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Aug 8, 2019 16:43
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FuriousGeorge posted:Judging by comments on his recent podcast appearances, Pod Save America’s audience seems to be far more innately hostile to Bernie than Joe Rogan’s. Rogan's kinda too dumb to have politics beyond a super generic libertarian-ish 'can't you just leave everyone alone?' Which is why the fascists love using him, because he doesn't really put much thought into his interviews beyond going 'oh man so (repeats what the guest just said)? That's nuts.' This is terrible because it's led to a lot of normal rear end people hearing him do that with the Dave Rubins of the world where it's just 'wow so the SJWs are censoring you for being gay and a REAL liberal? That's hosed up man'. It's also very good because, ya know, we can use that platform too and get the same 'wow so the wealthy are just hording their money and turning us against each other to fight for their scraps? That's wild.' treatment. It just requires a mild amount of cultural awareness and not having disdain for 90% of america.
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Aug 8, 2019 16:45
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MeatwadIsGod posted:The PSA hosts were in the Comms dept. in the Obama and Clinton admins, and you get a sense of why they're so afraid of politics and so in love with policy - their political instincts are terrible. Halloween Jack fucked around with this message at 16:50 on Aug 8, 2019 |
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Aug 8, 2019 16:47
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Halloween Jack posted:I wouldn't even say they're in love with policy; they're in love with technocracy. If they took policy seriously they'd be averse to people like Buttigieg and O'Rourke, and ridicule the proposals from Klobuchar and Harris. This is true. They all say they like Harris' imitation M4A but never explain why.
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Aug 8, 2019 16:50
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MeatwadIsGod posted:This is the mindset that brought you "basket of deplorables." The Rogan interview has only been up for like a day and a half and already has more than 4 million views. These people think every JRE listener is a Trump voter because they literally can't have a worldview that factors in the 40% of America that doesn't vote. So to them not openly courting "moderates" means you're going after the MAGA vote. the 40% who don't vote never will because they're assholes
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Aug 8, 2019 16:53
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MeatwadIsGod posted:This is true. They all say they like Harris' imitation M4A but never explain why.
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Aug 8, 2019 16:55
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Relevant Tangent posted:the 40% who don't vote never will because they're assholes no
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Aug 8, 2019 16:56
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Relevant Tangent posted:the 40% who don't vote never will because you're assholes fixed
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Aug 8, 2019 16:58
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Halloween Jack posted:I wouldn't even say they're in love with policy; they're in love with technocracy. If they took policy seriously they'd be averse to people like Buttigieg and O'Rourke, and ridicule the proposals from Klobuchar and Harris. They’re all about “the optics” which means what people at the next DC dinner party think.
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Aug 8, 2019 17:04
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THS posted:no yes
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Aug 8, 2019 17:05
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Aug 8, 2019 17:19
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Relevant Tangent posted:the 40% who don't vote never will because they're assholes *makes $35,000 a year or has no job prospects at all, friend OD'ed on opioids, mom is rationing her insulin*  Can you believe this rear end in a top hat?
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Aug 8, 2019 17:21
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Relevant Tangent posted:the 40% who don't vote never will because they're assholes lib poo poo
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Aug 8, 2019 17:24
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Relevant Tangent posted:the 40% who don't vote never will because they're assholes voting is a huge pain in the rear end for most people on top of them only getting a choice between the lesser of two evils.
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Aug 8, 2019 17:32
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Everyone is an rear end in a top hat but voters are bigger assholes.
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Aug 8, 2019 17:32
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Felix's ESports minute was a trip. I don't follow Fortnight, but I do follow League of Legends and like Hearthstone. poo poo was a completely intelligible rundown that I could translate. Like a madlibs where I understood the words but players are named florff instead of imaqtpie. Is this what sports radio feels like?
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Aug 8, 2019 18:08
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it's funny felix is the gamer one and then plays the most noob game possible.
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Aug 8, 2019 18:12
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i bet all the dollars virgil is way better at overwatch than felix is at fortnite or any game for that matter hell amber is probably better at mario kart than felix is at fortnite in the sense she wouldn't lose to an 8 yr old
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Aug 8, 2019 18:16
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Relevant Tangent posted:the 40% who don't vote never will because they're assholes Dem Acres is the place to be For tepid lib poo poo wonkery
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Aug 8, 2019 18:56
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By the by, if any of you are still obsessed with the question of exactly how much influence SA had on Felix, you should listen to his Beyond the Filter interview.
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Aug 8, 2019 18:57
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I really hope this guy digs himself into a deeper hole. https://twitter.com/ashleyfeinberg/status/1159524959431135232?s=20
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Aug 8, 2019 19:03
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prefect posted:I really hope this guy digs himself into a deeper hole. What did Gay (lol) say about Weisman?
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Aug 8, 2019 19:37
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fadam posted:What did Gay (lol) say about Weisman? https://twitter.com/rgay/status/1159133115056627713
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Aug 8, 2019 19:40
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fadam posted:What did Gay (lol) say about Weisman? I'm sure it was justified -- this is the guy who said that John Lewis wasn't really from the deep south because he lived in Atlanta. (Also because he was black.)
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i was confused because i thought he was saying (in a very stupid way) "i know you're black i saw your picture". lol woof.
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