OSHA: definitely bent in the straight places

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C.M. Kruger: Oct 28, 2013

The Russians apparently tried to test one of their nuclear-powered cruise missiles (basically a unshielded nuclear ramjet, look up Project Pluto for the US version that was abandoned for being "insane" and "provocatory") or some kind of other rocket, but either way it blew up instead.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-49275577

quote:

A rocket engine explosion on a naval test range in northern Russia has killed two people and injured six, the defence ministry told Russian media.

The victims of the explosion in Arkhangelsk region were civilian specialists while military and civilian personnel are among the injured.

The ministry said radiation levels were normal but the city of Severodvinsk registered a "brief spike" in levels.

[...]

Radiation levels peaked between 11:50 and 12:30 (08:50-09:30 GMT) before falling and normalising by 14:00, the city administration in Severodvinsk said on its website, without reporting how significant the spike had been.

It is unclear what could have caused radiation levels to rise.

Local people were reportedly urged to take precautions against radiation. No increase in ambulance call-outs was recorded, the administration added.

A woman in Severodvinsk named only Alina told Russian news site lenta.ru: "I work in the hospital where they're bringing the injured.

"They advise everyone to close their windows and drink iodine, 44 drops per glass of water."

Children in local kindergartens were taken indoors after reports of the blast and parents were advised not to take them outside in the evening, other residents were quoted as saying.

[...]

"During testing of a liquid jet engine an explosion and combustion of the product occurred," the ministry said in a statement.

"There have been no harmful chemicals released into the atmosphere, the radiation levels are normal."

Emergency aircraft were used to airlift the injured. They included defence ministry officials and developer company representatives, who "had injuries of varying severity", the statement added.

There had been earlier reports of a fire at a military facility near Nyonoksa. Telegram-based media outlet Mash said radiation levels in the village were three times higher than normal.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...t-idUSKCN1UY1D5

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Greenpeace cited data from the Emergencies Ministry that it said showed radiation levels had risen 20 times above the normal level in Severodvinsk, which lies around 30 kilometers (18 miles) from Nyonoksa.

[...]

An official at the northern port of Arkhangelsk said an area of the Dvina Bay in the White Sea had been closed to shipping for a month because of the incident.

�The area is closed,� the official, Sergei Kozub, said, without giving further details about the reasons for the move.

https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/1159507091503161356
https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/1159510264397619202

# ? Aug 9, 2019 01:57

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# ? Jun 6, 2024 23:05

Burt Sexual: Jan 26, 2006; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS; Switchblade Switcharoo

Wtf

# ? Aug 9, 2019 02:06

Ornamental Dingbat: Feb 26, 2007

I'll start calling all the naked coal miners I know.

# ? Aug 9, 2019 02:08

LifeSunDeath: Jan 4, 2007; still gay rights and smoke weed every day

C.M. Kruger posted:

The Russians apparently tried to test one of their nuclear-powered cruise missiles (basically a unshielded nuclear ramjet, look up Project Pluto for the US version that was abandoned for being "insane" and "provocatory") or some kind of other rocket, but either way it blew up instead.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-49275577

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...t-idUSKCN1UY1D5

https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/1159507091503161356
https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/1159510264397619202

So it was a nuke? wtf.

# ? Aug 9, 2019 02:23

The Lone Badger: Sep 24, 2007

LifeSunDeath posted:

So it was a nuke? wtf.

Nuclear-propelled, not nuclear-warhead.

# ? Aug 9, 2019 02:28

Thomamelas: Mar 11, 2009

Dirt Road Junglist posted:

This reminds me of working for a small businessman who started doing weird poo poo, like getting paranoid about someone breaking into the shop during work hours (???), so he threw the deadbolt on the front door from the inside with a key. And he was the only one with said key.

When I reported him for OSHA violations, I was told that since he had fewer than X employees (I forget the exact number, but it was around 10), none of the regulations on things like egress access applied. Basically, as long as there was one egress door (even if it was blocked by some serious fire hazard poo poo like big tangles of network and power cables hooked up to a shelf full of "servers" (aka, laptops running web services) that constantly threatened to fall on people). He did eat a fine for some of his terrible wiring and having not fixed electrical problems, but it wasn't nearly as satisfying as it could have been.

The best part was that he knew one of us reported him, but he never suspected me, despite the fact that I openly talked poo poo about him at work and he knew I was actively looking for a new job at the time. He just assumed since I was so nice and honest with all our customers, I must be an idiot who would never do anything sneaky.

Idiot.

The Fire Marshall is one to call for this. They take a super dim view of locking people in.

# ? Aug 9, 2019 02:28

Phanatic: Mar 13, 2007; Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

C.M. Kruger posted:

The Russians apparently tried to test one of their nuclear-powered cruise missiles

Uh...no. Probably a liquid-fueled rocket blew up, possibly an R-29 SLBM. How you get from that to "nuclear-powered cruise missile," let alone this being the result of a test, I have no idea.

# ? Aug 9, 2019 02:31

Burt Sexual: Jan 26, 2006; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS; Switchblade Switcharoo

Phanatic posted:

Uh...no. Probably a liquid-fueled rocket blew up, possibly an R-29 SLBM. How you get from that to "nuclear-powered cruise missile," let alone this being the result of a test, I have no idea.

Take iodine drops?

# ? Aug 9, 2019 03:24

PittTheElder: Feb 13, 2012; Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

Chernobyl Series 2 looking good

# ? Aug 9, 2019 03:29

Mozi: Apr 4, 2004; Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die; Nap Ghost

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https://twitter.com/ArmsControlWonk/status/1159554663592497152?s=20

# ? Aug 9, 2019 03:29

Sagebrush: Feb 26, 2012; ERM... Actually I have stellar scores on the surveys, and every year students tell me that my classes are the best ones they’ve ever taken.

Phanatic posted:

Uh...no. Probably a liquid-fueled rocket blew up, possibly an R-29 SLBM. How you get from that to "nuclear-powered cruise missile," let alone this being the result of a test, I have no idea.

- They said it was a jet engine on a test stand. I think even the Russians aren't stupid enough to put a goddamned nuclear warhead on an experimental engine on a test stand.
- Even if an SLBM with a live warhead on it explodes and scatters the core, a few kilos of plutonium is not enough debris to create a serious danger to a widespread area.
- They're telling the people to take iodine, but a scattered nuclear core doesn't contain any iodine-131. That comes from nuclear reactions.
- Russia has publicly stated it's working on a nuclear-powered cruise missile similar to Project Pluto.

# ? Aug 9, 2019 03:34

Powershift: Nov 23, 2009

The Lone Badger posted:

Nuclear-propelled, not nuclear-warhead.

lol that a country that still can't make a car is allowed to make and test nuclear propelled missiles

# ? Aug 9, 2019 03:41

PHIZ KALIFA: Dec 21, 2011; #mood

I just had a really unfun realization: The west never really outlawed slavery. Outside of prison labor, which is 100% just slavery with more steps, we've exempted certain industries from regulations, then staffed those industries almost 100% with undocumented workers. Undocumented people can't even invoke the basic human rights protection of their country of residence, meaning they are 100% at the mercy of their employers.

Y'all I think capitalism just replaced the triangle trade with coyotes and refugees from central america.

Platystemon posted:

Use a boulder.

Attaching it to the ground is unnecessary. It has enough mass to stop anything.

There's been multiple gifs, videos, and stories ITveryT of (Swift) semi drivers cutting a corner too quick and hooking a Spongebob-quality prospectin' boulder under the steppy spiky bits behind the last set of spinny wheels.

i don't know what they're called. probably some bullshit australianism like "Figurative Johnny's."

# ? Aug 9, 2019 04:02

Craptacular: Jul 11, 2004

Powershift posted:

lol that a country that still can't make a car is allowed to make and test nuclear propelled missiles

Who's going to stop them?

# ? Aug 9, 2019 04:12

PHIZ KALIFA: Dec 21, 2011; #mood

Sagebrush posted:

- They're telling the people to take iodine, but a scattered nuclear core doesn't contain any iodine-131. That comes from nuclear reactions.

is there any chance this is fake advice given to calm residents? I could see Russia playing both sides by the media by claiming there's no increased radiation while telling the scared folks closer to the center of things to do this special ritual to keep them safe from danger.

# ? Aug 9, 2019 04:19

Powershift: Nov 23, 2009

Craptacular posted:

Who's going to stop them?

I thought Smirnoff

I guess i was half right

Hopefully we at least get a godzilla out of this, a big stumbling drunk Годзилла

# ? Aug 9, 2019 04:25

Imagined: Feb 2, 2007

PHIZ KALIFA posted:

I just had a really unfun realization: The west never really outlawed slavery. Outside of prison labor, which is 100% just slavery with more steps, we've exempted certain industries from regulations, then staffed those industries almost 100% with undocumented workers. Undocumented people can't even invoke the basic human rights protection of their country of residence, meaning they are 100% at the mercy of their employers.

Y'all I think capitalism just replaced the triangle trade with coyotes and refugees from central america.

There's been multiple gifs, videos, and stories ITveryT of (Swift) semi drivers cutting a corner too quick and hooking a Spongebob-quality prospectin' boulder under the steppy spiky bits behind the last set of spinny wheels.

i don't know what they're called. probably some bullshit australianism like "Figurative Johnny's."

This is literally the 13th Amendment.

# ? Aug 9, 2019 04:26

PHIZ KALIFA: Dec 21, 2011; #mood

Imagined posted:

This is literally the 13th Amendment.

Yes, that's why I included the line on "prison labor is slavery but with more steps."

# ? Aug 9, 2019 04:30

shame on an IGA: Apr 8, 2005

Sagebrush posted:

- They said it was a jet engine on a test stand. I think even the Russians aren't stupid enough to put a goddamned nuclear warhead on an experimental engine on a test stand.

I agree with everything you've said here but in fairness the USAF was stupid enough to leave half a dozen nukes parked outside with no guard for a day and a half and didn't even know they were on the goddamn plane

# ? Aug 9, 2019 04:34

Memento: Aug 25, 2009; Bleak Gremlin

The version of Command & Control that covers the Russians that we'll unfortunately never get must be utterly insane.

# ? Aug 9, 2019 04:56

Carth Dookie: Jan 28, 2013

Memento posted:

The version of Command & Control that covers the Russians that we'll unfortunately never get must be utterly insane.

Pretty sure the Russian equivalent is a book called "The dead hand".

# ? Aug 9, 2019 05:20

KoRMaK: Jul 31, 2012

Carth Dookie posted:

Pretty sure the Russian equivalent is a book called "The dead hand".

Thanks for the audible suggestion

# ? Aug 9, 2019 05:24

chitoryu12: Apr 24, 2014

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# ? Aug 9, 2019 05:42

Granite Octopus: Jun 24, 2008

# ? Aug 9, 2019 05:48

Antioch: Apr 18, 2003

Carth Dookie posted:

Pretty sure the Russian equivalent is a book called "The dead hand".

Oh hot drat this looks like good up late readin'

# ? Aug 9, 2019 06:04

pseudorandom: Jun 16, 2010; Yam Slacker

Granite Octopus posted:

I'm the HDR glow

# ? Aug 9, 2019 06:08

Kibayasu: Mar 28, 2010

Granite Octopus posted:

I guess God wanted to see what was going to happen here too.

# ? Aug 9, 2019 06:13

Target Practice: Aug 20, 2004; Shit.

Carth Dookie posted:

Pretty sure the Russian equivalent is a book called "The dead hand".

This is by David Hoffman right?

# ? Aug 9, 2019 07:03

KoRMaK: Jul 31, 2012

Target Practice posted:

This is by David Hoffman right?

Oh, billion dollar spy, I know that guy.

Yea it is. Listening to dead hand on audiobook right now

# ? Aug 9, 2019 07:07

Target Practice: Aug 20, 2004; Shit.

Got The Dead Hand and Command and Control in my Amazon cart. Both on prime for about 20 bucks.

# ? Aug 9, 2019 07:10

PurpleXVI: Oct 30, 2011; Spewing insults, pissing off all your neighbors, betraying your allies, backing out of treaties and accords, and generally screwing over the global environment?
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Target Practice posted:

Got The Dead Hand and Command and Control in my Amazon cart. Both on prime for about 20 bucks.

Command and Control is an extremely pro read, generally anything by Schlosser is. Dude is excellent at combining personal narratives, dry data and historical fact into something really, really compelling.

Fast Food Nation has a couple of extremely OSHA stories in it, too, just to be relevant to the thread. :v:

I don't remember Reefer Madness as well, but I also believe it does.

# ? Aug 9, 2019 11:03

glynnenstein: Feb 18, 2014

shame on an IGA posted:

lol to all of your bolt suggestions the way you do this is cast a 3' long steel sleeve flush into the concrete and then drop a 6' long bollard into it

Oh yeah, I've got those too. I just can't have the city re-pour the alley when I want.

This gets hit weekly, and harder than the gray color ones I have because this sticks out to prevent blocking a fire exit so trucks are really moving when they whack it. Still, the concrete wasn't cracked until about 18 months ago when somebody must have been really hauling; it had been there about 7 years to that point.

That impact bowed out the base into an oblong shape, too. The top portion gets bent pretty regularly and I just rotate it around and the next impact straightens it out. Each time it's hit we just repaint over, so you can see the history of scars in the incredibly deep "safety yellow" paint.

At the corner is another one sunk into the ground that gets rubbed constantly. We repaint about every two months or so, depending on weather. One of the first things I did when I started at this site in 2011 was dig out this pole (the concrete was wrecked from levering on the area) and re-set it in 4000 psi concrete 3 feet deep. It's not an ideal installation, but it's made it almost 8 years and is just now getting to where it needs to be done again.

If these bollards weren't around the perimeter of my building, trucks would be hitting it instead all the time because they absolutely do not give any fucks. Even with the protection they still sneak through.

A truck trying to make a tight turn where the alley T's backed into the light fixture and cracked the panel. Each of these precast concrete panels would cost like $10k to have replaced and then the color wouldn't quite match up afterward, anyway. I can't even imagine trying to get that out of a restaurant supply company, what a nightmare.

# ? Aug 9, 2019 12:33

The Lone Badger: Sep 24, 2007

My car has not just a reversing camera but ultrasonic sensors that display my distance from the nearest solid object in six zones, with escalating beeping and an alarm if I get too close. Do trucks (that are much bigger and need to reverse more often) not have anything like that?

# ? Aug 9, 2019 13:01

Humphreys: Jan 26, 2013; We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule

The Lone Badger posted:

My car has not just a reversing camera but ultrasonic sensors that display my distance from the nearest solid object in six zones, with escalating beeping and an alarm if I get too close. Do trucks (that are much bigger and need to reverse more often) not have anything like that?

If they were there from the factory, they are busted now. "I know my truck"

I actually park my car in a staff parking area next to where our retarded flammable/explosives carrying truck drivers reverse into in a secret hope they hit it and I get to cash out a new car. I was close once - but he hit another truck and caused even more damage + no kaboom

# ? Aug 9, 2019 13:07

Memento: Aug 25, 2009; Bleak Gremlin

Humphreys posted:

If they were there from the factory, they are busted now. "I know my truck"

I actually park my car in a staff parking area next to where our retarded flammable/explosives carrying truck drivers reverse into in a secret hope they hit it and I get to cash out a new car. I was close once - but he hit another truck and caused even more damage + no kaboom

Why are the jobs that have the most potential for loving things up attract and then hire the biggest oxygen thieves on the planet?

# ? Aug 9, 2019 13:18

Goreld: May 8, 2002; "Identity Crisis" MurdererWild Guess Bizarro #1Bizarro"Me am first one I suspect!"

The Lone Badger posted:

My car has not just a reversing camera but ultrasonic sensors that display my distance from the nearest solid object in six zones, with escalating beeping and an alarm if I get too close. Do trucks (that are much bigger and need to reverse more often) not have anything like that?

I was in a gas station once watching a fairly large moving company�s box truck not only rear end a minivan while backing up, but keep pushing that van 15 feet out of the lot into a road with tires locked up and squealing. Finally the idiot who was directing the driver through an open window realized that there might be a vehicle he couldn�t see from standing next to the cab and started yelling. The drivers must have been either high or completely deaf.

# ? Aug 9, 2019 13:19

Humphreys: Jan 26, 2013; We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule

Memento posted:

Why are the jobs that have the most potential for loving things up attract and then hire the biggest oxygen thieves on the planet?

Because they are too dumb to get a job anywhere else would be my normal answer, but gently caress trying to reverse big rear end trucks, and I can't figure out those loving gearboxes to save my live.

# ? Aug 9, 2019 13:43

Memento: Aug 25, 2009; Bleak Gremlin

https://twitter.com/themadstone/status/1159808638229331968

Didn't we have a smilie of the This Is Fine dog?

# ? Aug 9, 2019 14:02

null_pointer: Nov 9, 2004; Center in, pull back. Stop. Track 45 right. Stop. Center and stop.

Memento posted:

https://twitter.com/themadstone/status/1159808638229331968

Didn't we have a smilie of the This Is Fine dog?

# ? Aug 9, 2019 14:12

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LifeSunDeath: Jan 4, 2007; still gay rights and smoke weed every day

Memento posted:

https://twitter.com/themadstone/status/1159808638229331968

Didn't we have a smilie of the This Is Fine dog?

Would this make any noticeable difference to the relative safety level of south philly?

# ? Aug 9, 2019 14:18

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