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Rarity posted:It's also vital to note (especially in the context of that Chris Williamson tweet) that due to the disproportionate percentage of BAME, LGBTQ+ and disabled people within the working class that identity politics is class politics and class politics is identity politics. You can't discuss one without the other and dividing the two is what the right-wing does to keep the poor distracted instead of turning on the rich. Williamson will be writing for Spiked in a matter of months, you mark my words EDIT: I'm not really a fan of cats, so have a bird instead: 
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A Buttery Pastry posted:it'd be ACAB the show, but Law & Order would be a totally appropriate name.
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A planning lawyer I follow due to my day job has posted an excruciatingly detailed analysis of why even if Boris loses a no confidence vote we are still likely to leave on October 31st. http://planninglawblog.blogspot.com/2019/08/a-brief-digression-from-planning-law.html?m=1 It is very lawyery but in case anyone wants to understand in detail as to why we are hosed whatever happens and why Boris is being so bullish.
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deletebeepbeepbeep posted:A planning lawyer I follow due to my day job has posted an excruciatingly detailed analysis of why even if Boris loses a no confidence vote we are still likely to leave on October 31st. Yeah it's pretty much a done deal at this point however doing any of those manoeuvres will cost Boris the election and probably wreck the Tory party as there's this huge obvious dodge around democratic process and election coverage rules apply to media as the mechanics of no dealing unfold while Labour gets air time quite convincing saying Labour wouldn't have hosed it so badly and here's the manifesto plans to deal with it.
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mediadave posted:EDIT: Wall.
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feedmegin posted:Wall. A cat ACAT All Cats Are Tories
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deletebeepbeepbeep posted:A planning lawyer I follow due to my day job has posted an excruciatingly detailed analysis of why even if Boris loses a no confidence vote we are still likely to leave on October 31st I have a feeling this is where the EU might extend again in that circumstance given how blatantly unconstitutional it would all be.
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A cat is its essential nature, a tory is a product of a society.
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deletebeepbeepbeep posted:A planning lawyer I follow due to my day job has posted an excruciatingly detailed analysis of why even if Boris loses a no confidence vote we are still likely to leave on October 31st. That's an explanation of how merely losing a VONC or calling a GE won't prevent No Deal Brexit. If it gets to the point where Boris is getting no confidenced because of NDB, though, then there would also be a Parliamentary majority for blocking it.
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Bojo won't be VONCed tho Why would the tories vote for that?
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That's the bluest great tit I've ever seen
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But enough about boris waheeeyeyyyyyyyyy
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OwlFancier posted:A cat is its essential nature, a tory is a product of a society. On the other, not all that much  Certainly nothing compared to whatever the gently caress we did with pugs and French bulldogs.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:I can totally imagine a show called Law & Order, presenting the audience with a God's Eye version of events, that is a total condemnation of police/justice system worship. Just have the show be a constant parade of officers shooting people for carrying toy pistols/cars/nothing, detectives railroading them, and politicians defending this. Like, don't even have a tragic "This is what the officer thought they saw and they're real sorry" clip to contrast with what really happened, just film shootings from the point of the cops while clearly showing that the person isn't a threat at all. I guess the closest thing to this is The Wire but even then some of the po-lice are occasionally portrayed as trying to do the right thing even if not a one of them are actually good people
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Hentai Jihadist posted:Bojo won't be VONCed tho Some of them (like Grieve) will almost certainly lose their seats next time so have nothing to lose. It's unlikely to be enough though, especially with Hoey & friends cancelling them out.
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feedmegin posted:I have a feeling this is where the EU might extend again in that circumstance given how blatantly unconstitutional it would all be. When did you go full brainwormed FBPE? The EU cannot extend without our acceptance.
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namesake posted:election coverage rules apply to media And terrible things will happen to rule-breakers, whatever their position in society. We've definitely seen that a lot lately. I am afraid they might have learnt something from last time.
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I'm not entirely sure cats have been domesticated, more that the house cat is just any other kind of cat but small enough that it can't kill you easily.
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That's the latest GDP figures out. Economy contracted 0.2% from April to June. Thisisfine.jpg
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Bug Squash posted:That's the latest GDP figures out. Economy contracted 0.2% from April to June. Thisisfine.jpg tories are good on the economy though
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Oh dear me posted:And terrible things will happen to rule-breakers, whatever their position in society. We've definitely seen that a lot lately. yeah basically, we wont have been the only ones that noticed that once you start telling the truth corbyn gets more popular or that nobody gets punished for anything and this time around there is everything to play for
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Bojo is pretty explicitly running a wrecker cabinet to shut out remainers; as craven as the tories are, there's at least some feeling in the air that this is the moment where tories can break ranks and not definitely be punished by the next tory cabinet purely on the basis of defying the leadership. Probably still not worth much beyond a few MPs, but that's all we need right now.
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OwlFancier posted:I'm not entirely sure cats have been domesticated, more that the house cat is just any other kind of cat but small enough that it can't kill you easily. 
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Extremely definitely parasitism. And I say that as someone who likes cats.
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OwlFancier posted:I'm not entirely sure cats have been domesticated, more that the house cat is just any other kind of cat but small enough that it can't kill you easily.
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A sleeping human is a bed to a cat.
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There was some big new scientist article a few years back that basically argued that too - humans trained dogs, but cats just kinda acclimated to civilisation without much input from people. Apparently they only meow if humans are around?
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They meow as kittens to attract their mothers but they retain it specifically to attract humans. The relationship is more that of a fluffy remora than a dog's actual codependence.
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Yeah, the noises that they make to humans are a modulation of the noises they make as kittens and the noises they make to their own kittens, allegedly with some themes of human baby noises in there. Whereas the noises that they make to other cats are either hellbeast sounds or the sounds that geese make when you get too close to them.
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Jose posted:tories are good on the economy though If Jeremy Corbyn was in charge the economy would have contracted 2.0%!!!
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I also like geese, there's something agreeable about an animal that sidles up to you and hisses while sticking its tongue out to make you give it food.
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There's a guy who lives near me who has a harness for his cat and takes it for walks on a lead. I'd like to see your so-called science explain THAT!
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OwlFancier posted:I also like geese, there's something agreeable about an animal that sidles up to you and hisses while sticking its tongue out to make you give it food. Geese are the cops of birds.
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Buy Zimbabwe dollars, they're very stable in these troubled times.
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OwlFancier posted:I'm not entirely sure cats have been domesticated, more that the house cat is just any other kind of cat but small enough that it can't kill you easily. One of my cats has tried to eat me several times in my sleep, gnawing on my chin and my ears while purring like an engine. EDIT: And given my last post after this one, I gotta go back and edit to go point out this actually means he really, really likes me, not really trying to eat me. His Divine Shadow fucked around with this message at 11:13 on Aug 9, 2019 |
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OwlFancier posted:They meow as kittens to attract their mothers but they retain it specifically to attract humans. No this is just an uncharitable interpretation combined with old prejudices. It's been shown cats show genuine affection to their owners.
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Eaten by cats would be my preferred method of final disposition, but the co-op refuses to even consider it.
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Jared O'Mara: Who runs an absent MP's office? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-49281645 Well worth a read IMO, some concerning things raised as a result of it
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I did the adding up, and if Boris loses a November 1st GE he will have been Prime Minister for exactly 100 days - nearly all of them when Parliament was not sitting. That's way less than the current record for shortest time in office.
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